[Predictions] The extent of Madara's cruelty

narutoblitz

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It's increasingly obvious Madara Aizen'd this whole thing. Here's how I think it went down.

1) Madara vs. Hashirama ends with both parties horribly injured. Hashirama suffers wounds that won't easily heal and seals Kurama inside Mito. He dies. Madara survives, unknown to Hashirama and Tobirama

2) Years later, Madara has slightly recovered and is going to attack the village to draw Tobirama out. He cracks the secrets of Edo Tensei by placing Tobirama in genjutsu and murdering him on the spot. Hiruzen and crew escape. The rest is history.

3) Orochimaru runs into Madara and makes a trade: Oro gets Hashirama cells for his research and Edo Tensei knowledge, and Madara's secret is safe. Oro agrees to aid Madara at the appointed hour. (i.e. now)

4) Madara finds Obito, and implants the chakra rods in him. He uses them and black Zetsu to effectively rob Obito of his original personality and make him a walking puppet that has to suffer as he is used against his hometown. Obito grows bitter and develops the "I am nobody, it doesn't matter what I do" attitude. The Tobi attitude was infact Spiral Zetsu talking, and the evil one talking to Naruto was the real Madara speaking through Obito.

5) Madara always planned to sacrifice Obito, not Nagato, as the sacrifice. Why? Nagato was needed to attack the village and destroy it. Madara suspected all along Nagato would be defeated by the village.

6) Madara planned the Uchiha clan massacre after his own death, as revenge for them abandoning 'the fight' against the Senju. He planned everything, including Minato's death at Obito's hands and Kurama being sealed inside Naruto. Because he wanted to see whether his Curse of Hatred was right or if Hashirama was right.

In essence, Madara is a perfectionist egomaniac that wants to become the next Sage of the Six Paths and rule the world as something greater than God and to settle once and for all which son of the Sage was correct. In the end, Sasuke will probably step in and die so that Naruto can beat Madara.

Maybe he didn't plan Kurama being sealed, since he tried to summon him :p That's a good point heh
 
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At very least, I think Madara planned to abuse and use Obito from the start. We also need to figure out how the balls Orochimaru figured out about Edo Tensei and got Hashirama cells for his research.. the missing link is probably Madara.

We know so far he planned his own resurrection and the war, just so he could get everyone in one place at one time... so that they could watch him become a living God and fight Hashirama. Guy has some serious issues heh
 
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It's increasingly obvious Madara Aizen'd this whole thing. Here's how I think it went down.

1) Madara vs. Hashirama ends with both parties horribly injured. Hashirama suffers wounds that won't easily heal and seals Kurama inside Mito. He dies. Madara survives, unknown to Hashirama and Tobirama

2) Years later, Madara has slightly recovered and is going to attack the village to draw Tobirama out. He cracks the secrets of Edo Tensei by placing Tobirama in genjutsu and murdering him on the spot. Hiruzen and crew escape. The rest is history.

3) Orochimaru runs into Madara and makes a trade: Oro gets Hashirama cells for his research and Edo Tensei knowledge, and Madara's secret is safe. Oro agrees to aid Madara at the appointed hour. (i.e. now)

4) Madara finds Obito, and implants the chakra rods in him. He uses them and black Zetsu to effectively rob Obito of his original personality and make him a walking puppet that has to suffer as he is used against his hometown. Obito grows bitter and develops the "I am nobody, it doesn't matter what I do" attitude. The Tobi attitude was infact Spiral Zetsu talking, and the evil one talking to Naruto was the real Madara speaking through Obito.

5) Madara always planned to sacrifice Obito, not Nagato, as the sacrifice. Why? Nagato was needed to attack the village and destroy it. Madara suspected all along Nagato would be defeated by the village.

6) Madara planned the Uchiha clan massacre after his own death, as revenge for them abandoning 'the fight' against the Senju. He planned everything, including Minato's death at Obito's hands and Kurama being sealed inside Naruto. Because he wanted to see whether his Curse of Hatred was right or if Hashirama was right.

In essence, Madara is a perfectionist egomaniac that wants to become the next Sage of the Six Paths and rule the world as something greater than God and to settle once and for all which son of the Sage was correct. In the end, Sasuke will probably step in and die so that Naruto can beat Madara.

Maybe he didn't plan Kurama being sealed, since he tried to summon him :p That's a good point heh
Your theory is just horrible man. Not trying to flame at all but man... just looking at this really killed my vibe for the day.
 

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narutoblitz;12338740[B said:
]At very least, I think Madara planned to abuse and use Obito from the start.[/B] We also need to figure out how the balls Orochimaru figured out about Edo Tensei and got Hashirama cells for his research.. the missing link is probably Madara.
Duuh everyone knew that even Obito, Obito just didn't think he would've gotten weak enough for Madara to do it to him
 

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It's perfectly logical. We have no idea how Hashirama died or why he thinks that Madara died at VoTE. Tobirama's death wasn't shown explicitly, and we don't know where the hell Orochimaru got Edo Tensei (Tobirama created it, according to Orochimaru...) That alone doesn't add up. Also, where did Orochimaru get Senju cells? Why would he implant chakra rods in Obito if he thought Obito was loyal to him?

It's quite sad but it really seems like Madara somehow planned this whole thing. Probably Kishimoto writing again lol
 

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I also think Madara was responsible for the Senju/Uzumaki destruction
 

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i'm sure he actually planned being revived by kabuto to save obito then use him.(which was the only reason obito is not dead yet besides the plot):|
 

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I find it just logical. There isn't proof that breaks it down.
 
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