[Theory] The D's, Ancient Kingdom, Gorosei and The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter

[WhistleBlower]

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Well a few people requested me to post this theory.

This is based on some popular theory called the Halfmoon theory.

Ever wondered what the D meant? Sure you did. It's actually not a D though. It's a halfmoon. It means that these people are partially related to the moon people. Why no one knows it anymore? No one is supposed to. Ever wondered why no one is aware of the sky people. They life in exile. How do I know?

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Look at this list. A lot OP races, but wait where are the sky people? The normal people aren't supposed to be aware of them at all. Not even as slaves.

So how does the Ancient Kingdom fit into this? Why are they suddenly related to sky people?

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Look at the great tree of Ohara. It only stores information related to archaeology. But why the hell is there a planetary model? They only research stuff related to the Void Century after all. Pretty easy. The Ancient Kingdom is actually the first entry point of the more advanced moon people. That's where they descended and started living on earth. Mixing with the other races. That created the D's. Why are the moon people more advanced? Because they had the Goro Goro no mi. I personally believe that the statement that the Goro Goro no mi gives godlike power is actually also a sign for the status of the person. It's usually eaten by a God of the sky people. The access to electricity allowed them to build stuff like robots way earlier than the earth people.

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Doesn't the staff of the guy remind you of Enel's drum? That was probably one of the first God's of the moon that lead the advancement of the moon people.

How does the The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter fit into this? Well some of you are probably familiar with Kaguya from Naruto. It's based on the same legend. Kaguya was a child found in a bamboo stalk and was adopted by a human. She brought great fortune to her adoptive family since soon after the bamboo cutter always found gold hidden in bamboo. As she turned older she was so beautiful that 5 princes and even the emperor (5 princes notice something?) asked her to marry them. She put the 5 princes through impossible trials and they decided to fool her. She saw through her schemes though. The emperor didn't have to endure that, but she told him that it was impossible for her to marry him since she wasn't actually from his country. Soon after Kaguya always looked at the moon with teary eyes. Eventually she told her adoptive parents that she wasn't actually from earth, but from the moon. She had to return, but send a final letter to the emperor containing the elixir of immortality.
The emperor refused to drink it since he couldn't live without her. Instead he decided to go to the biggest mountain with his army to burn the elixir and a letter from him hoping that it would reach the moon.

How are the Gorosei related. Well the Gorosei are the 5 princes. Joyboy is most likely the emperor who actually married the god of the moon people. They decided to attack the ancient kingdom and acquired immortality that way. (maybe through a devil fruit or some other plot device) Afterwards they tried to erase all knowledge about the ancient kingdom, but couldn't manage to get rid of the survivors. The sky people decided to live in exile while the D's tried to live with the other races. They were branded as D though. Through the efforts of the Gorosei the actual meaning of the D became unknown though.

Not sure if anyone came up with this yet. Partial credit goes to the original creator of the half moon theory.​

 

[ROHAN]

Never thought that guy would be you. #Exposed.

Anyways, I have already read and commented on your theory. Nice one. :kd:

 

[HashiraMadara]

But that mean nothing is special about a bunch of them if only 1 can a eat a Goro Goro nomi

 

[Relostar Devil]

adam tree or origin of DF doesn't make it clear here....

 

[Caliburn]

With all due respect most of this is baseless and wishful thinking to be honest. That "space" is a relevant factor in regards to the Void Century, has been popping up in numerous theories, most of which can be traced back to Enel's space voyage. However I have yet to see anything substantial backing them up and personally I really don't feel much for it. This is a pirate manga that's located in a world that's mostly naval-based and then they are going to play astronaut? Most unlikely.

And in regards to the things you said, well for starters the D. Why a half moon? If you live on the moon, there is no such thing as a half moon. On top of which a half moon is only one of the many stages the moon goes through during its monthly cycle. So that the D is supposed to represent the moon is a highly forced interpretation.

Secondly we already met the sky people. I suggest you read on OP wikia the pages about the moon and the Shandia tribe. Admitted the story of their origin is largely based on Enel's space voyage and I seriously wonder if the interpretation given has ever been confirmed. Still it makes a lot of sense as it answers a lot of things. Apparently there were three sky tribes: Birkans, Shandians and the Skypieans who left the moon a long time ago for Earth due to the lack of natural resources. The Skypeans and the Birkans settled on Sky Islands while the Shandorians went straight down to the ocean. So this explains a lot of stuff, including why Enel had a staff that was similar to the one portrayed on the hieroglyphs: it's something that was culturally inherited.

It is unknown when this exodus occurred, but Robin said that the Shandia civilization was already flourishing 1100 years ago and that something catastrophic happened to it during the Void Century. Meaning it already existed centuries before the VC and thus this exodus happened in an even more distant past. If they would have been at the center of the VC, like many theorists believe, they should have been wiped out completely and Oda really would not have placed them somewhere in the middle of Paradise and let the Strawhats pass there halfway through the first half of the series. Their connection to the VC is most likely similar to that of Alabasta and Fishman Island and thus their moon origins have little relevance here.

Thirdly that they don't appear on the slave list can easily be explained by that people don't believe they exist. Skypiea is considered by most to be a legend. So if rarely a Skypiean comes down and almost no one who goes up lives to tell the tale, well then there's no point in them being listed. It's also possible they are considered regular humans because their tiny wings don't even seem to be functional or Oda might have just forgotten them. Either way this argument doesn't mean much.

Fourthly you are quite wrong in saying that Ohara only stores information about archeology. Oda never really used the term "archeology" properly. In reality what the people of Ohara are, is a combination of archeologists, historians, archivists and librarians. They are referred to a few times as scholars, which is a description that covers their activities much better than archeologists. The search for the poneglyph in ancient ruins can be qualified as archeology, however poneglyph themselves are beyond all doubt "written records" and thus reading and interpreting them falls under historic research. Ohara was also famous for their scholars and their collection of books. Those will really not be limited to just archeology. They cover a wide range of topics. At one point they simply decided to research the VC in secrecy, but by no means that's not what they have always done. What you say doesn't even make sense because the reason why the VC is called the VC, is because there is a 100 year gap in the historic records with the exception of the poneglyph. You make it sound Ohara was solely centered around researching the VC, but that was not the case. Ohara had been for generations an island of knowledge and scholars, so it's really not odd for there to be a planetary model.

Fifthly there are countless of DF. Why would the lightning DF now be so crucial in all of this? Luffy even beat the current owner of the DF long ago. And it seems that the moon people were advanced enough to generate their own electricity, so they really had no need for the Goro Goro no Mi.

Sixthly Oda gets inspired by numerous things. However that does not mean he copies it contextually. It's not because he takes some elements from certain stories that the exact story will occur in the series. I've seen people saying this a lot. They believe something inspired Oda and then they concoct an entire theory about how he will do the exact same thing, only with OP characters and then they get surprised not even remotely happened what they thought would happen. There is absolutely nothing that connects the story you are talking about to OP, it's pretty much completely random. Drawing a parallel with the Gorosei just because they are with 5 is a weak argument and someone would have noticed it by now if 5 guys don't die for 900 years.


So as I said this mostly baseless and wishful thinking. Nothing of what you said has anything substantial to support its credibility.

 

[WhistleBlower]

With all due respect most of this is baseless and wishful thinking to be honest. That "space" is a relevant factor in regards to the Void Century, has been popping up in numerous theories, most of which can be traced back to Enel's space voyage. However I have yet to see anything substantial backing them up and personally I really don't feel much for it. This is a pirate manga that's located in a world that's mostly naval-based and then they are going to play astronaut? Most unlikely.

And in regards to the things you said, well for starters the D. Why a half moon? If you live on the moon, there is no such thing as a half moon. On top of which a half moon is only one of the many stages the moon goes through during its monthly cycle. So that the D is supposed to represent the moon is a highly forced interpretation.

Secondly we already met the sky people. I suggest you read on OP wikia the pages about the moon and the Shandia tribe. Admitted the story of their origin is largely based on Enel's space voyage and I seriously wonder if the interpretation given has ever been confirmed. Still it makes a lot of sense as it answers a lot of things. Apparently there were three sky tribes: Birkans, Shandians and the Skypieans who left the moon a long time ago for Earth due to the lack of natural resources. The Skypeans and the Birkans settled on Sky Islands while the Shandorians went straight down to the ocean. So this explains a lot of stuff, including why Enel had a staff that was similar to the one portrayed on the hieroglyphs: it's something that was culturally inherited.

It is unknown when this exodus occurred, but Robin said that the Shandia civilization was already flourishing 1100 years ago and that something catastrophic happened to it during the Void Century. Meaning it already existed centuries before the VC and thus this exodus happened in an even more distant past. If they would have been at the center of the VC, like many theorists believe, they should have been wiped out completely and Oda really would not have placed them somewhere in the middle of Paradise and let the Strawhats pass there halfway through the first half of the series. Their connection to the VC is most likely similar to that of Alabasta and Fishman Island and thus their moon origins have little relevance here.

Thirdly that they don't appear on the slave list can easily be explained by that people don't believe they exist. Skypiea is considered by most to be a legend. So if rarely a Skypiean comes down and almost no one who goes up lives to tell the tale, well then there's no point in them being listed. It's also possible they are considered regular humans because their tiny wings don't even seem to be functional or Oda might have just forgotten them. Either way this argument doesn't mean much.

Fourthly you are quite wrong in saying that Ohara only stores information about archeology. Oda never really used the term "archeology" properly. In reality what the people of Ohara are, is a combination of archeologists, historians, archivists and librarians. They are referred to a few times as scholars, which is a description that covers their activities much better than archeologists. The search for the poneglyph in ancient ruins can be qualified as archeology, however poneglyph themselves are beyond all doubt "written records" and thus reading and interpreting them falls under historic research. Ohara was also famous for their scholars and their collection of books. Those will really not be limited to just archeology. They cover a wide range of topics. At one point they simply decided to research the VC in secrecy, but by no means that's not what they have always done. What you say doesn't even make sense because the reason why the VC is called the VC, is because there is a 100 year gap in the historic records with the exception of the poneglyph. You make it sound Ohara was solely centered around researching the VC, but that was not the case. Ohara had been for generations an island of knowledge and scholars, so it's really not odd for there to be a planetary model.

Fifthly there are countless of DF. Why would the lightning DF now be so crucial in all of this? Luffy even beat the current owner of the DF long ago. And it seems that the moon people were advanced enough to generate their own electricity, so they really had no need for the Goro Goro no Mi.

Sixthly Oda gets inspired by numerous things. However that does not mean he copies it contextually. It's not because he takes some elements from certain stories that the exact story will occur in the series. I've seen people saying this a lot. They believe something inspired Oda and then they concoct an entire theory about how he will do the exact same thing, only with OP characters and then they get surprised not even remotely happened what they thought would happen. There is absolutely nothing that connects the story you are talking about to OP, it's pretty much completely random. Drawing a parallel with the Gorosei just because they are with 5 is a weak argument and someone would have noticed it by now if 5 guys don't die for 900 years.


So as I said this mostly baseless and wishful thinking. Nothing of what you said has anything substantial to support its credibility.

Thanks for the lengthy reply, but please read the red at the top. No need to say no offence to me aha.
Also i like your point about "its a naval based adventure then they'd suddenly go play astronaut? not likely " :bouncy:

 

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