The Differnce Bettwen /High Chakra and /Chakra Power

[sindi1997]

Hello Base How is it going ? ... As you can see from the title this thread is about clearing some holes in peoples mind about chakra ... Most people think that having High chakra means you automaticly Have Stronger chakra however that is Wrong so Wrong i have honestly seen so many people Do this mistake in the base I feelt i needed to make this thread

Now People With high chakra are said too be good and strong because they can sustain themselfs in a fight verywell however it does not mean that you have stronger chakra this is so wrong it simply means that you have higher one let s take an example let take a person with huge chakra reserves and face it with one with lower chakra reserves but stronger we are both giving them names so lets call X= person with high chakra reserves and O= person with lower chakra reserves but stronger... if they were too fight with both the the same jutsu and in those jutsus they used the SAME ammount of chakra the person O .. would Win because His Chakra Is Stronger in order for X person to win or equal the fight he would have to use a higher amount of chakra Since he has higher reserves he can do that easly .. an example of two people using the same ammount of chakra and one of them winning is the Sasuke vs Itachi Fight

The Flame s heigh and width show that both users used the same ammount of chakra ...

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

However Itachi is Sick despite using the same ammount of chakra ... his chakra is not more powerful than sasuke showed on this scan..

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

An other extreme example would be the people vs the bijus.. People with very powerful chakra were the uzumakis Who s chakra was said to be the strongest out of all the clans an example of this Is KUSHINA which i belive It is One hell of a crazy uzumaki Imo she has the strongest Chakra we have ever seen in the manga however i will explain that in a later thread .. stating a differnce here Sealing jutsus can restrict bijju chakra but Kushina did this with her Own chakra No sealing jutsus and she had given birth and also Survived a extraction while doing this is just crazy in my opinion Anyway just look at this

Kushina after Birth and extraction

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Remember in this example Kushina s chakra despite being Lower A lot Lower than kyubbis Was So strong that it was able to restrain All of kyubbi s chakra despite its large quanty and power Just imagine that kushina ....man she is crazy XD

Anyways I belive this missconseption came from hashirama Which is a senju and o well he has huge chakra reserves but this is where some people here in base make the mistake of saying he also has high chakra Power check this closly This is Hashirama doing the cracks when he was first revived

The Cracks made by Hashi

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Now read Tobirama s words Very Carefuly

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Ine you don't have to Raise your chakra so much Remember what i said at the begining about Chakra s power when two people face each other and X person since he has higher ammount of chakra he can use that to balance Chakra s power so what i mean by this is that hashirama is not weak by any means what i want to show by this is that in order for hashirama to make the cracks he raised his chakra level insanly which also would mean in a real battle that his justsus would be stronger if there were a uzumaki there which would lets say have a stronger chakra that hashi those cracks would have been made with a lot lower chakra hope i made this clear anyways have a nice day ​

 

[Prince Charles]

I agree in the concept of what your saying, their is a difference between having powerful chakra and simply have high quantities of it unless I am wrong.

But I do not agree with your example regarding Itachi and sasuke, it's not the fact that sasuke's chakra was powerful but imo it was due to the fact that he poured more chakra into his katon which made it grow bigger which made it overpower itachi's katon that is all.

You must be registered for see images

This is a perfect example of what kakashi said, he doesnt have the chakra quantity, so let's replace itachi with kakashi for example during the fireball execution, sasuke's katon would overpower kakashi's not because sasuke's katon is more powerful but because sauske put more chakra into his katon which made it grow bigger.

I agree with your thread but not your example.

Heres a better explanation

You must be registered for see images

A panel from the databook,

read it and it saids if two of the same jutsu clash it depends on which user puts more chakra into it and it also displays the picture of sauske and itachi's fireball jutsu situation.

 

[sindi1997]

I agree in the concept of what your saying, their is a difference between having powerful chakra and simply have high quantities of it unless I am wrong.

But I do not agree with your example regarding Itachi and sasuke, it's not the fact that sasuke's chakra was powerful but imo it was due to the fact that he poured more chakra into his katon which made it grow bigger which made it overpower itachi's katon that is all.

You must be registered for see images

This is a perfect example of what kakashi said, he doesnt have the chakra quantity, so let's replace itachi with kakashi for example during the fireball execution, sasuke's katon would overpower kakashi's not because sasuke's katon is more powerful but because sauske put more chakra into his katon which made it grow bigger.

I agree with your thread but not your example.

Heres a better explanation

You must be registered for see images

A panel from the databook,

read it and it saids if two of the same jutsu clash it depends on which user puts more chakra into it and it also displays the picture of sauske and itachi's fireball jutsu situation.

Ohh I never read the databook never can find It in anywebpage mind telling me where can i read it ? But yeah it seems i was wrong about the example didn't catch that thnx for pointing that Out you deserve a + rep for this Anywas Let s see if i can find an other example maybe

 

[Huzaifa]

You are right and wrong. Hashi and tobirama cracking the wall can be explained in two ways. One way like three tail naruto they sent shock waves with the density not calling them weak. Kushina yeah she has really strong but not strongest. The uzamacki clan is just shitted on by kishi. We know barely anything of it. Having more powerful chackra means your techniques is stronger doesn't mean less effort. I can't argue or continue on in depth as on my phone.

 

[sindi1997]

You are right and wrong. Hashi and tobirama cracking the wall can be explained in two ways. One way like three tail naruto they sent shock waves with the density not calling them weak. Kushina yeah she has really strong but not strongest. The uzamacki clan is just shitted on by kishi. We know barely anything of it. Having more powerful chackra means your techniques is stronger doesn't mean less effort. I can't argue or continue on in depth as on my phone.

I ll explain kushina s example on an other thread however i never said it takes less efort it just takes less Chakra besides i wasn't taking in account chakra control And also elmental affinitys we can continue tomorrow if you want ?

 

[Huzaifa]

I ll explain kushina s example on an other thread however i never said it takes less efort it just takes less Chakra besides i wasn't taking in account chakra control And also elmental affinitys we can continue tomorrow if you want ?

Yeah I can go more in depth etc a bit later.

 

[sindi1997]

Yeah I can go more in depth etc a bit later.

Text me when you are ready Personal messages come in my phone

 

[KingHashirama]

He must have strength in his chakra to crack those walls..

They were blessed with physical energy mate.. lol. They naturally have strong chakra in regards to physicallity.


Uchiha were blessed with spiritual energy.. which powers their sharingan, just like their "powerful" chakra powers the Sharingan.

"strength in numbers" would be the perfect saying that applies to chakra.


You must also notice they never released chakra on the outside, they spiked it up in their own body.. While people like Naruto actually have chakra on the outside of their body. (counter to what the other guy is saying.)

 

[Huzaifa]

He must have strength in his chakra to crack those walls..

They were blessed with physical energy mate.. lol. They naturally have strong chakra in regards to physicallity.


Uchiha were blessed with spiritual energy.. which powers their sharingan, just like their "powerful" chakra powers the Sharingan.

"strength in numbers" would be the perfect saying that applies to chakra.


You must also notice they never released chakra on the outside, they spiked it up in their own body.. While people like Naruto actually have chakra on the outside of their body. (counter to what the other guy is saying.)

King wana do thia argument later I gota reread those chapters and writing on a phone is a bych. I can't see the entire thread and stuff.

 

[KingHashirama]

King wana do thia argument later I gota reread those chapters and writing on a phone is a bych. I can't see the entire thread and stuff.

no problemoo

 

[sindi1997]

He must have strength in his chakra to crack those walls..

They were blessed with physical energy mate.. lol. They naturally have strong chakra in regards to physicallity.


Uchiha were blessed with spiritual energy.. which powers their sharingan, just like their "powerful" chakra powers the Sharingan.

"strength in numbers" would be the perfect saying that applies to chakra.


You must also notice they never released chakra on the outside, they spiked it up in their own body.. While people like Naruto actually have chakra on the outside of their body. (counter to what the other guy is saying.)

They were blessed with high chakra mate not Powerful one Despite hashirama s being a bit special than the others hashirama Had to actually increase his chakra to make those cracks as i said even tobirama stated it he rasied his chakra too high .. Sharingan on the other had makes the use of chakra more efficent what i mean by that is it creates Susason amaterasu or tsukyomi which despite uchihas not being praised for their high chakra compansates with Powerful jutsu... as i said earlier madara and hashirama are special cases Madara was born with Powerful chakra while hashirama has sage Mode which Not only gives him higher chakra but it gives him that special chakra the one the the 10 tails uses himself ( i think you know that 10 tails works with natural energy don't you ? ) i just took hashirama s case becuase that s when people started missunderstanding

 

[VongolaX]

People like Madara, Obito, Itachi, and Sasuke are Uchiha's with powerful chakra.

There more quality than quantity, powerful techniques that change the atmosphere ( Amatersu)

Naruto has shown more quantity, durability in his techniques (shadow clones)

 

[sindi1997]

People like Madara, Obito, Itachi, and Sasuke are Uchiha's with powerful chakra.

There more quality than quantity, powerful techniques that change the atmosphere ( Amatersu)

Naruto has shown more quantity, durability in his techniques (shadow clones)

Acutally The dojutsu Is a tool what that means is When your dojutsu upgrates your chakra is Able to be manipulated in a better way expl sharingan to rinnengan madara s chakra didn't get a boost it stayed the same However he still was able to use all of the rinnegan technices (even if he actually absorbed hashirama s sm he still would have been able to use all of rinnengan s tech even if he didn't do it ) what i mean by this is the uchihas are better at manipulating that small amount of chakra while the senju just have bigger one and can manipulate it based on their affinitys or kekeigenkais

 

[KingHashirama]

They were blessed with high chakra mate not Powerful one Despite hashirama s being a bit special than the others hashirama Had to actually increase his chakra to make those cracks as i said even tobirama stated it he rasied his chakra too high .. Sharingan on the other had makes the use of chakra more efficent what i mean by that is it creates Susason amaterasu or tsukyomi which despite uchihas not being praised for their high chakra compansates with Powerful jutsu... as i said earlier madara and hashirama are special cases Madara was born with Powerful chakra while hashirama has sage Mode which Not only gives him higher chakra but it gives him that special chakra the one the the 10 tails uses himself ( i think you know that 10 tails works with natural energy don't you ? ) i just took hashirama s case becuase that s when people started missunderstanding

-sigh-. Ok let me explain what I am saying in a clearer way.

Basis of chakra empowerment:

What empowers chakra? Physical energy and spiritual energy. Correct? Logically, an increase in 1 of them would result in the increase in the strength of the chakra. Senju were blessed with physical energy (aka longevity), and also stamina aka chakra.


Just like how the uchiha have spiritual energy aka mental energy blessed to them. Which increased the strength of their chakra, on top of having strong chakra. They don't take toll on their body with the sharingan usage, due to their powerful chakras and spiritual energy.

However, what kind of a body do you need to have the rinnegan or to use it correct without strain? Senju body.

Hashirama and Tobirama's situation

Yes you are correct he increased the chakra... however, do you realize to power up anything you must increase the amount of your chakra?

Furthermore, they only spiked it inside their own bodies. They didn't bring it on the outside.

I made a similar thread to this, but i have changed my opinions due to the fact , it depends on how you define "strong chakra".

 

[sindi1997]

-sigh-. Ok let me explain what I am saying in a clearer way.

Basis of chakra empowerment:

What empowers chakra? Physical energy and spiritual energy. Correct? Logically, an increase in 1 of them would result in the increase in the strength of the chakra. Senju were blessed with physical energy (aka longevity), and also stamina aka chakra.


Just like how the uchiha have spiritual energy aka mental energy blessed to them. Which increased the strength of their chakra, on top of having strong chakra. They don't take toll on their body with the sharingan usage, due to their powerful chakras and spiritual energy.

However, what kind of a body do you need to have the rinnegan or to use it correct without strain? Senju body.

Hashirama and Tobirama's situation

Yes you are correct he increased the chakra... however, do you realize to power up anything you must increase the amount of your chakra?

Furthermore, they only spiked it inside their own bodies. They didn't bring it on the outside.

I made a similar thread to this, but i have changed my opinions due to the fact , it depends on how you define "strong chakra".

Chakra is split in two pieces stamina and Phisical energy as you said yourself However the one praised for the the strong chakra also longevity Were the uzumakis Dude not the senju And also you really don't take chakra control in too account at all the examples above in never mention it it but its time you see people like itachi who have huge chakra control could perform a jutsu with less chakra because of the control he has on that chakra and still be the same powerful as the other person performing it With more chakra (this example involves same chakra power) hashirama also the senju were known for their high chakra i never saw it in the manga also kishi himself has made this clear that in order for hashirama to control the bijus He would actually have too manipulate his high chakra in to a Jutsu that restrains the bijus while the uzumakis with the powerful chakra could actually keep the bijus at bay ... example MITO was used to store kyubbi KUSHINA was used to store kyubbi naruto was used to store kyubbi .... Uchiha on the other hand have their Spirtiual energy reflected in an other way Kishi displayed this as well genjutsu as i said earlier hashirama is a special case i hope i made it clear to you and actually for the hashirama keeping the chakrra inside naruto has displayed this feat as well he just choses to let his chakra out the fact that he can manipulate kyubbi s chakra to his own chakra makes this possible what that means is he can take the kyubbi s chakra and store it in his own body without the kyubbi being released or displayed outside of his body .. he just choses not too

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

 

[VongolaX]

Acutally The dojutsu Is a tool what that means is When your dojutsu upgrates your chakra is Able to be manipulated in a better way expl sharingan to rinnengan madara s chakra didn't get a boost it stayed the same However he still was able to use all of the rinnegan technices (even if he actually absorbed hashirama s sm he still would have been able to use all of rinnengan s tech even if he didn't do it ) what i mean by this is the uchihas are better at manipulating that small amount of chakra while the senju just have bigger one and can manipulate it based on their affinitys or kekeigenkais

I don't think doujustus upgrade your chakra, it drains it if anything. (Kakashi)

Just look at Susanoo, that's a huge size chakra moving around.

If you remember, the older son was blessed with the sage's eyes.

Powerful chakra and spiritual energy <---Susanoo

While the younger son is with body energy

Physical energy and full of life (quantity)

Hashirama and Tobirama seem to be the exception, or Hashirama has more than enough quantity to surpass Madara's quality.

 

[sindi1997]

I don't think doujustus upgrade your chakra, it drains it if anything. (Kakashi)

Just look at Susanoo, that's a huge size chakra moving around.

If you remember, the older son was blessed with the sage's eyes.

Powerful chakra and spiritual energy <---Susanoo

While the younger son is with body energy

Physical energy and full of life (quantity)

Hashirama and Tobirama seem to be the exception, or Hashirama has more than enough quantity to surpass Madara's quality.

What i ment there is that when your dojutsu upgrates , Your chakra is Able to be manipulated in a better way You read it wrong LOL XD my bad tho that , changed everything XD

 

[KingHashirama]

Chakra is split in two pieces stamina and Phisical energy as you said yourself However the one praised for the the strong chakra also longevity Were the uzumakis Dude not the senju And also you really don't take chakra control in too account at all the examples above in never mention it it but its time you see people like itachi who have huge chakra control could perform a jutsu with less chakra because of the control he has on that chakra and still be the same powerful as the other person performing it With more chakra (this example involves same chakra power) hashirama also the senju were known for their high chakra i never saw it in the manga also kishi himself has made this clear that in order for hashirama to control the bijus He would actually have too manipulate his high chakra in to a Jutsu that restrains the bijus while the uzumakis with the powerful chakra could actually keep the bijus at bay ... example MITO was used to store kyubbi KUSHINA was used to store kyubbi naruto was used to store kyubbi .... Uchiha on the other hand have their Spirtiual energy reflected in an other way Kishi displayed this as well genjutsu as i said earlier hashirama is a special case i hope i made it clear to you and actually for the hashirama keeping the chakrra inside naruto has displayed this feat as well he just choses to let his chakra out the fact that he can manipulate kyubbi s chakra to his own chakra makes this possible what that means is he can take the kyubbi s chakra and store it in his own body without the kyubbi being released or displayed outside of his body .. he just choses not too

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Rereading is what i suggest:

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Powerful chakra:

Uzumaki have longevity due to having Senju blood. They became known for "longevity" because unlike the Senju clan, they weren't directly in the war itself. As Hashirama stated the average life span during that time was 30 years,

That is true, however the thing is that is due to chakra control. Sakura can create a bigger damage to the landscape with 1 punch then Itachi can do with Susanoo, so do i claim Sakura has more powerful chakra? No it is due to the superior chakra control.

Uchiha's "powerful chakra" is a direct link to their sharingan, which hence allows for better chakra control. However, jutsus requires a specific amount of chakra you put into it. Just like how to spam Mokuton like Hashirama, you MUST have high amounts of chakra..



Your examples:

Mito - She chose herself, she wasn't selected by anyone to become the jinchuriki of the 9-tails.

Kushina - She had special chakras even amongst the Uchiha.. her chakra =/= Uzumaki chakra

Naruto - And when has he shown the same feat as Hashirama, without unleashing the chakra? Oro/suigetsu actually felt their intense presence...

 

[sindi1997]

Rereading is what i suggest:

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Powerful chakra:

Uzumaki have longevity due to having Senju blood. They became known for "longevity" because unlike the Senju clan, they weren't directly in the war itself. As Hashirama stated the average life span during that time was 30 years,

That is true, however the thing is that is due to chakra control. Sakura can create a bigger damage to the landscape with 1 punch then Itachi can do with Susanoo, so do i claim Sakura has more powerful chakra? No it is due to the superior chakra control.

Uchiha's "powerful chakra" is a direct link to their sharingan, which hence allows for better chakra control. However, jutsus requires a specific amount of chakra you put into it. Just like how to spam Mokuton like Hashirama, you MUST have high amounts of chakra..



Your examples:

Mito - She chose herself, she wasn't selected by anyone to become the jinchuriki of the 9-tails.

Kushina - She had special chakras even amongst the Uchiha.. her chakra =/= Uzumaki chakra

Naruto - And when has he shown the same feat as Hashirama, without unleashing the chakra? Oro/suigetsu actually felt their intense presence...

Are you kidding me dude the uzumaki are distan relatives to the senju but that doesn't mean that senju have also longevity ... mannn wtf as for the sakura part you do Know that SHE STORED CHAKRA FOR 3 YEARS DO YOU ? and since she is a medic she has supierior chakra control meaning she can focus all of that stored chakra at one Point at her case its the fist

As for the mito example It was Hashirama who sealed it inside mito or mito i can't really remember but kishi has forshadowed it uzumakis are crazy jinjuirkis I mean there was tobirama who was senju instead he went with mito there were a lot of other senjus yet kushina was brought then then he picked naruto and the list goes one Why would he want to chose an uzumaki over an senju Unless Of their chakra power