[Discussion] The Difference Between Preference and Discrimination?

[Loki d]

What kind of person would exclude an entire race that has beautiful women around the globe?

 

[roark]

It's always girls that get the brunt of it anyway. I don't really hear girls going around talking about "x men have x feature that is more attractive than y men who have y feature" as often (they still do it, everyone does it, but it seems like guys are doing it way more). It's just some bullsh*t shaming crap, mostly directed at negging women or fetishizing them, and no-one should be getting into this kind of mass prejudice.

Actually girls discriminate a lot, believe me. But mostly girl with good self steem specially on the big cities.
Even if is changing drastically, most women are raised to believe they are born to date and marry a guy, but is not everybody,
Men are more visual tough... girls are picky in other things.


Answering seriously the thread... i see no problem with having a preference. There's some physical types that i don't find appealing, and for respect to other people, i'll not say loudly. It has nothing to do with race though - i have race preference too, but i'm not sticky on that.


Also, i've fallen twice for guys that are not my type and not really attractive or that succesfull. My friends wondered why i was in love with people like them... but they were really nice people and had everything do to with me, so i think physical attraction is just one (important) factor on a relationship, but not everything.

I believe homophobia, sexism, racism or being fixed in a physical ideal (oh i just date guys like brad pitt) is stupid and limited thinking. Simply ignorance and mediocre people.

Also, i've known racists who date people of the race they despise, i will never understand that, but whatever, humans are complicated

In the end, several guys who talk shit on this topic and the other, probably don't fit the standard of beauty required to be considreded handsome, and it makes me laugh, and how some treat women make me laugh too, that's why probably some are single and a failure with the opposite ***.

ok bye uttahere:

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Surely it is saying that certain groups of people have certain "features". We can't deny that, for example, asian people tend do have a different eye-form than scandinavian people. Is that offensive? I don't think so. And it doesn't mean that every asian (in this example) looks the same. As a group, they tend to look more similar to each other.. than if compared to other "ethnic groups", because of their physiology. But that's it.

In my first post here I meant exactly this:


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^No, that's exactly not what preference is.
In fact, this statement is superficial and discriminatory, because you don't know the person beneath the looks.

If you are using Dejavu post as an example to me you should look at my response to him about that being a logic fallacy.

 

[DominiqueX]

If you are using Dejavu post as an example to me you should look at my response to him about that being a logic fallacy.

I don't get it. How is it a fallacy? Forget the comparison of food and humans, it was just used by Dejavu to explain the concept that he was talking about.

Preference is: "I like X more than Y, but I do both of them."

Exclusion is: "I only like X, Y by default has no chance in my life."

Exclusion is discrimination and racist, preference is not.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

I don't get it. How is it a fallacy? Forget the comparison of food and humans, it was just used by Dejavu to explain the concept that he was talking about.

Preference is: "I like X more than Y, but I do both of them."

Exclusion is: "I only like X, Y by default has no chance in my life."

Exclusion is discrimination and racist, preference is not.

Does food get discriminated against and deal with racism? Is food and people the same? This should explain why the food/human thing is fallacious

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[DominiqueX]

I won't read that link, sorry. I already told you that food is irrelevant, the provided concept is what matters.
If you can't understand that, fine. Then there is nothing else to discuss.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

I don't date women who do not turn me on, and it so happens that women who aren't white, do not turn me on, but that doesn't make my choice discriminatory. Just like you said, I date white women because they are appealing to my eyes, but darker skinned women are not. It's a fairly simple concept to understand, really. By your definition everybody discriminates against everybody else simply because people have standards - and that would make this thread even more pointless than it already is.

I'll make it simple for you: would you date the ugliest black man with the awesome personality, or the hot Latino with the same awesome personality? I already know the answer to that so you don't even have to answer. But I'll leave knowing you discriminate against ugly people.

Firstly: Colorism- Prejudice or discrimination against individuals with a dark skin tone, typically among people of the same ethnic or racial group.
Secondly: Uhhh you do realize that Latino isn't a race. Lupita Nyong'o is a black woman but she is Latino.
Third: How did you get the name "***"? Lol

 

[Sakura Michiko]

I get along just fine with everybody, the majority of my friends are black, actually. I just don't date them because they just don't turn me on. I don't discriminate and I'm not racist. I know that but she mentioned Latino as if it were a race, but let's say, for the sake of it all, that the Latino guy is white/tanned.

Its always been my name. ;-)

Okay? So? That doesn't mean you aren't expressing colorism. You legit stated some colorism stuff so you are discriminating and I showed you the actually definition but whatever you can believe what you want.

 

[Claymantan]

I don't date women who do not turn me on, and it so happens that women who aren't white, do not turn me on, but that doesn't make my choice discriminatory. Just like you said, I date white women because they are appealing to my eyes, but darker skinned women are not. It's a fairly simple concept to understand, really. By your definition everybody discriminates against everybody else simply because people have standards - and that would make this thread even more pointless than it already is.

Colorism is a behavior and an expressed set of ideas mate, not about how you feel.

 

[Claymantan]

I realize all that but I still have my opinion. And if I'm discriminating then so be it, but that brings me to the point that everybody discriminates because everybody has standards and preferences. I'll leave it at that before the denial and bullshit excuses start pouring in.

Then why try to claim that you don't discriminate? xD

I might discriminate, but I don't discriminate based on color. Not all standards and preferences have the same kinds of impact on people. Not all standards are equal, and some standards are needlessly harmless. Not all discrimination is equal (ex: Discriminating against people who are introverted =/= discriminating against people who are disabled). If you were to say "things are fine because everyone does the definition of the thing," you could justify basically anything.

Colorism is generally harmful for pretty obvious reasons, especially since it's disproportionate, with darker skin colors most often getting the brunt of it. The thread isn't useless, although I agree that making it probably wasn't helpful to anyone (no one's gonna really change their behavior in their personal lives based on some internet thread).

I'm not in here trying to convince anyone to change their behavior, but they should at least own up to it. xD

 

[Sakura Michiko]

I realize all that but I still have my opinion. And if I'm discriminating then so be it, but that brings me to the point that everybody discriminates because everybody has standards and preferences. I'll leave it at that before the denial and bullshit excuses start pouring in.

It's amazing when people who have preferences try to tell me what I have. XD No, I don't have a preference. I'll date a guy regardless or race,size,height. Also standards and preferences aren't the same.
Example:
Dating Preference: I prefer X guys but not y guys
Standard: You should have a good hygiene,know how to budget,and act responsible.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Nevermind, I thought you quoted me, lol.

Sorry SakuraMichiko.

It's okay

 

[roark]

I get along just fine with everybody, the majority of my friends are black, actually. I just don't date them because they just don't turn me on. I don't discriminate and I'm not racist. I know that but she mentioned Latino as if it were a race, but let's say, for the sake of it all, that the Latino guy is white/tanned.

Its always been my name. ;-)

lol i was ok with your argument before you say that. All your post here is no sense and screwed up. You are racist and dumb. bye