The Difference Between Minato’s & Tobirama’s FTG!

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I’ll start off with Tobirama’s jutsu since Minato’s version is commonly well known by a lot of people in this site.

From the previous manga chapters & from flashbacks of Hashirama’s story, it seems we can assume that Tobirama’s S/T technique does not rely on any seals or formula to execute his version of FTG. However, executing his jutsu seems takes more time or preparation as compared to that of Minato’s FTG.


I’ll provide few manga scans to support my theory:
http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/624/12
This was the first time we heard of Tobirama’s Flying Thunder God. If he used his S/T tech to fatally injure Izuna, is still quite unclear. Though the name of the Jutsu itself could be a possible hint that it was a variation of his S/T technique.


http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/627/12
Here, the second scan states that Hashirama told his brother to prepare his jutsu. From this panel they were still on the Uchiha Hideout location.


http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/627/13
The next scan showed us that they were already in the top of the village, as well as Suigetsu set to escape from his current situation. In here we can logically say that Tobirama used his S/T jutsu not because Hashirama told him so, but also because Suigetsu used this moment as his opportunity to escape eventually. It’s obvious by now that they teleported, otherwise Suigetsu escaped from the time they were traveling from the Uchiha Hideout location through the Hokage monuments.

Regardless of how much time it takes to execute Tobirama’s S/T techs, the more important thing to consider was he never needed a seal to perform his FTG. Unlike Minato when he uses his FTG, Kishi always demonstrate the use of seal.
http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/501/6


Comparing & Analyzing Both Minato’s & Tobirama’s Jutsu:

1. Since it’s a form of S/T tech, I think it’s safe to assume that both of their versions can use in a battle constantly or effectively.

2. However, since Tobirama’s jutsu does not rely on seals or whatsoever, then I believe that distance or the size of the object / humans to be teleported acquires huge amount of his chakra. Thus, Tobirama’s charka pool or chakra reserve plays a vital part in executing his version of FTG. This could be one of the possible reasons why he didn’t just teleport his team during the Kin/Gin Squad incident, because he might not have enough chakra to teleport them all or the distance from where he wanted to teleport his team must be huge.

3. To simplify my view on how Tobirama’s S/T tech works, it’s more like the guy from the movie jumper, that all he needs is to think of the location where he wanted to teleport. Also, he needed to be familiar with place he wanted to teleport or he must have been in that place before to use his S/T technique. This could be the reason why Tobirama needs preparation time to execute his jutsu. Moreover, unlike from that guy in the movie jumper, who was born with that ability, Tobirama wasn’t born with it, thus he only created it, & uses his chakra to execute the jutsu.

4. The absence of seal in Tobirama’s Jutsu is what I believe Minato’s version was better as he can spam the technique & almost takes lesser chakra or preparation time as compared to Tobirama’s. Also due to the seal, Minato created varieties of FTG that were very useful in a battle. This of course includes, level 2 & S/T barriers. What I honestly think is, Tobirama conceptualized FTG, while Minato mastered it & take it to another level.

5. Lastly, Minato stated that Obito’s S/T tech were advance because unlike their versions Obito can go intangible, as if any attacks just slip right through his body, & he can carry out the jutsu without needing any seals or whatsoever. Though I believe Obito can only teleport via Zetsu’s Spores.


Feel free to discuss...:cool:
 
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nice thread but i disagree i think tobirama not having seals makes his better and the way he uses it is better because he doesnt simply teleport he moves in a direction
just my opinion
btw whats the difference with ftg v1 and v2 anyway
 
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I made a similar analysis, good job. Basicly Minato's is less chakra consuming, put to safer use,and easier to pull off. While Tobirama isn't bound by seals which can make it better but not spammable.
 
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nice thread but i disagree i think tobirama not having seals makes his better and the way he uses it is better because he doesnt simply teleport he moves in a direction
just my opinion
btw whats the difference with ftg v1 and v2 anyway
V2 is when minato teleports to the kunai while its moving.
 

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Seems legit, thats a rep for you
That's very flattering, more especially coming from a guy who was known as a good debater.

Great theory!
Thanks!

I can see you put alot of effort in this and thats good,
Minato's is better ........
Sort of!

I made a similar analysis, good job. Basicly Minato's is less chakra consuming, put to safer use,and easier to pull off. While Tobirama isn't bound by seals which can make it better but not spammable.
Very true, so far that's all I could think off!

Awesome theory
Thank's man!
 
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The earliest user of FTG is Tobirama so I wouldn't be surprised if his version superior or on par with Minato's. Given the current feats, it seems so.

Without FTG, Tobirama has already demonstrated that he has enough power to make Hiruzen, Minato, Orochimaru, and Taka get scared by raising a finger. He also briefly resisted Orochimaru's Edo Tensei through sheer force.

He is the creator of Edo tensei, is an excellent suiton user, and has advanced sensing... really, at this point there is no reason not to believe that Tobirama is probably the second strongest hokage.
 

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Nice thread. I already created a thread concerning it, that you can find on my sig
The earliest user of FTG is Tobirama so I wouldn't be surprised if his version superior or on par with Minato's. Given the current feats, it seems so.

Without FTG, Tobirama has already demonstrated that he has enough power to make Hiruzen, Minato, Orochimaru, and Taka get scared by raising a finger. He also briefly resisted Orochimaru's Edo Tensei through sheer force.

He is the creator of Edo tensei, is an excellent suiton user, and has advanced sensing... really, at this point there is no reason not to believe that Tobirama is probably the second strongest hokage.
More like the contrary. Minato lived after, so it is more than likely that his version should be superior, since he most likely improved Tobirama's version to create his own, but whatever, i suppose it's something that didn't cross your mind since it's Minato, a character you hate? Reason why you even bring power level arguments when this thread is nothing about it
 

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Nice thread. I already created a thread concerning it, that you can find on my sig
Yeah, I read it already... Very informative... Thank's anyways!

Zebstrika said:
The earliest user of FTG is Tobirama so I wouldn't be surprised if his version superior or on par with Minato's. Given the current feats, it seems so.

Without FTG, Tobirama has already demonstrated that he has enough power to make Hiruzen, Minato, Orochimaru, and Taka get scared by raising a finger. He also briefly resisted Orochimaru's Edo Tensei through sheer force.

He is the creator of Edo tensei, is an excellent suiton user, and has advanced sensing... really, at this point there is no reason not to believe that Tobirama is probably the second strongest hokage.
Just like what Supreme Bogard said, Minato could have improved Tobirama's version since he can spam it or even teleport something that was as big as the full-powered kyubi.

Further, it's clear as day that Hashirama takes the no.1 spot in the strongest Hokage. Whoever is the 2nd strongest Hokage amongst Tobirama, Hiruzen, & Minato is still uncertain. We can only speculate up to this time whoever we think deserve who's next to Hashirama. However as far as feats & hype goes, Minato's were still greater as compared to Tobirama. We'll just have to wait for the upcoming chapters to determine who amongst all them will next to Hashirama's level.
 
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Nice, not bad. Not bad...
Thank's mate...

hixa kuogame said:
nice thread but i disagree i think tobirama not having seals makes his better and the way he uses it is better because he doesnt simply teleport he moves in a direction
just my opinion
Thank's for the compliment.. anyways, I doubt if not having seals were better because it may consume more chakra or it takes more preparation time to use. Regardless, both were still epic! I just like Minato's style better...:cool:
 
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