The Curse of Hatred and The Will of Fire

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When talking about neji's death obito said that loosing those connections(neji dying) can work as a powerful curse

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tobirama said that loosing a loved one turns into hate making a special chakra sprout which changes their eyes

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when sasuke was using his mangekyou sharingan karin kept noticing his chakra getting colder and when sasuke used susano'o atusi said his chakra resembled genjutsu(yin chakra)

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then in the chapter susano'o final version when sasuke's susano'o becomes more complete obito said his hatred has grown giving him power and his body responded to that;sasuke's chakra when using susano'o resembled genjutsu that power that obito was talking about is mostly likely yin chakra

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tobirama even said that the more they are full of hatred the more their eyes become powerful

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The Curse of Hatred=the more hatred they get they the more poweful and yin chakra(older son)they get;the older son only inherited the eyes and yin chakra

Kishi gets some of his influence from japanese mythology in the mythology of the bijuus it states that the kyuubi gets his power from the Fire Seal

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Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: This is a Bijuu in the shape of a nine-tailed fox, and the strongest of them all. The reason he is so powerful is simple: Kyuubi has an unlimited amount of power, earning it the “King of Bijuu” title. The power is generated by Kyuubi’s Fire Seal, and as a result, after battling for 100 years with Yamata no Orochi, it becomes exhausted; but Kyuubi continues standing, able to fight. It is also pretty cunning and smart.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 4 times; All of them victories
Wins: Nekomata, Houkou, Raijuu, Yamata no Orochi
Fate: In unclear whereabouts, Kyuubi continues to kill all the people on his way to find the one who awakened him, and the one who managed to seal him before.
Myth Appearance: Kyuubi no Youko is the strongest Bijuu of the Japanese Myth. Its body has a red fur; Kyuubi represents the element of Fire. Its abilities are incredible. Because it has never been defeated, its total strength is unable to estimate. His tails create cyclones by spinning quickly, and Kyuubi proceeds to rip its enemies with its huge claws. At the same time his fur may shoot fireballs similar to meteorites endlessly, instantly destroying villages. In the ancient Bijuu wars, a challenge results in Houkou being severely wounded, and Nekomata nearly dying, The Kyuubi is an intelligent bijuu and has a scathing, sadistic personality. However he has also a sense of fairness and sarcastic honour.

When Minato said he was going to use the eight trigrams seal on naruto he said he wanted naruto to be the jinchuuriki that will blaze the trail to the future

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he believed naruto could use half of kurama's chakra cause he needs a special power

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he only gave naruto the yang chakra(younger son)

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the seal is setup with two seals it's setup to where some of kurama's chakra mixes with naruto's

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the swirl seal is the seal that leaks kurama's chakra but kurama's chakra is a mass of hatred and in order to control it's power you have to a strong enough will with no hatred and filter it's "mind"out of the chakra;the key allows naruto to tap into it's full chakra

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Naruto gets over his own hatred at the Falls of Truth

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getting a portion of kurama's yang chakra making this happen

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Killer bee said the nine-tails chakra mode lighting up our way

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Naruto then gets rid of kurama's hate making kurama give naruto his full yang chakra causing this to happen

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Naruto then resembles the sage's "body"and is filled with life-force and has kurama's yang chakra(younger son)
the seal around the swirl seal is the one the sage passed down; naruto had to over come kurama's hatred and make the swirl seal leak filtered yang chakra to change the seal around the swirl seal back into the sage's

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you can see a person in the juubi's mouth with the tomoe necklace and horn-looking hair

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The Fire seal is the seal the sage used

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The will of fire=overcoming hatred in naruto's case overcoming his own and kurama's hatred giving him kurama's yang chakra making him like the younger son

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On the uchiha tablet it says that having two opposite forces cooperate together(yin and yang)they can achieve happiness

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the sage knew that's how to achieve peace and so he choose the younger son for his peace through love

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The senju's will of fire is over coming hatred(giving naruto yang chakra)uchihas get stronger through hatred(giving them yin chakra)
sasuke has an ems the last power up before rinnegan and what itachi called "true power"=true power of the uchiha clan

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by sasuke(yin) overcoming his hatred(will of fire)he will cooperate with naruto(yang)
when hashi(yang) and madara(yin) cooperated they had peace until madara messed it up

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Madara and obito never got over this hatred(curse)and instead became both uchiha(ems-yin) and senju(hashi-yang)and perform the infinite tsukuyomi(peace through power)the other way to interpret the tablet.the sage didn't split them up for them to come back together

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because of naruto's seal he can give out chakra

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the will of fire verses madara and obito(curse of hatred)

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obito believes that today will be the day the will of fire dies

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the alliance looks like they're on fire

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[hearteaterx]

So what's your point? That Obito thinks the will of fire is going to die out after this final fight?

 

[NarutoB]

I think he's saying that
A.the Sage used a fire seal which has been passed down over the years, making "The Will Of Fire" more literal.

And B.that Naruto can't beat Obito until he gets the other half of the Kyubi chakra.

 

[rollin]

So what's your point? That Obito thinks the will of fire is going to die out after this final fight?

somewhat im just stating how it's the curse of hatred verses the will of fire
hatred made uchihas strong giving them yin;over coming hatred made naruto strong giving him yang andcausing all the other shinobis to be stronger

 

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I think he's saying that
A.the Sage used a fire seal which has been passed down over the years, making "The Will Of Fire" more literal.

And B.that Naruto can't beat Obito until he gets the other half of the Kyubi chakra.

the bold is what i was trying to say but i dont think naruto needs the other half of the kyuubi to beat obito
the other half of the kyuubi is yin chakra, i think sasuke is going to be that "yin chakra"
and it's going to be naruto(younger son-yang) and sasuke(older son-yin)vs obito who has become both

 

[Fermion]

nice thread......

 

[KingHashirama]

I have to disagree, The Will of Fire and the curse of hatred are not the opposites of each other.

Will of Fire is just protecting and dieing for the people you love, someone who follows the curse of hatred can also do this.

 

[Sky99]

I just read all that thinking it might be some sweet theory or something but in the end it no point? what the f**k?

 

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I just read all that thinking it might be some sweet theory or something but in the end it no point? what the f**k?

I edited it to make my point clearer I just had to think about it a little

 

[NagazuDead]

Wow... It's so much lol... kinda getting boring to look at all xD.

 

[rollin]

Wow... It's so much lol... kinda getting boring to look at all xD.

I should have did the curse of hatred part and the will of fire part in two separate threads
But it's really not that long it seems like that because of all the manga pages I put in spoilers I make sure everything I say is backed up with manga proof

 

[Sherlock.]

Nice Theory.... =D =D

 

[rollin]

Nice Theory.... =D =D

thanks i might just make a thread about the fire seal soon
i think people didn't want to read this because they thought it was too long