The Creator vs the Destroyer has now happened.

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The Creator sword of the Rikudou Senin

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The Destroyer sword of the Perfect Susanoo

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Notice the words "Breaks ALL CREATION"...


So guys this only made sense, that the creator sword lost to the destroyer sword that breaks all creation.
 

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Obito's sword broke coZ he started doubting himself
 

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The sword broke because Obito isn't using the sword for what it's meant to do. It's power comes from the Sages will, killing off shinobi isn't what it's made for.
 

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The sword broke because Obito isn't using the sword for what it's meant to do. It's power comes from the Sages will, killing off shinobi isn't what it's made for.

Now I would like you to provide proof for this.

"Killing of shinobi isn't what it's made for." ... hence why it lost to the sword that is MEANT for breaking all creation... So there is no " of Obito lost because he didn't have the Sage's power".. no.. The sword of PS is simply superior.
 

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Now I would like you to provide proof for this.

"Killing of shinobi isn't what it's made for." ... hence why it lost to the sword that is MEANT for breaking all creation... So there is no " of Obito lost because he didn't have the Sage's power".. no.. The sword of PS is simply superior.

It doesn't say it directly, but it implies by saying the Sages emotions dwell inside of it. By that understanding/anime logic the sword shouldn't work because it conflicts with his emotions. By saying it's surperior in power maybe? But MAdaras PS couldn't break HAshirama Shinsuusenju so it's not really powerful enough to break all creation. So like you said it's possible the power of the Sword is only able to create. But it's also equally possible the Sages emotions stop the sword to it's full potential. I think Maybe Naruto will use this sword, in the final battle.
 
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It doesn't say it directly, but it implies by saying the Sages emotions dwell inside of it. By that understanding/anime logic the sword shouldn't work because it conflicts with his emotions. By saying it's surperior in power maybe? But MAdaras PS couldn't break HAshirama Shinsuusenju so it's not really powerful enough to break all creation. So like you said it's possible the power of the Sword is only able to create. But it's also equally possible the Sages emotions stop the sword to it's full potential. I think Maybe Naruto will use this sword, in the final battle.
No... it doesn't. It specifically states the feelings of the Sage are INSIDE the sword.. not that the sword is powered by the emotions of the Rikudou.

Highly false. The only reason the Buddha got even damaged was due to the swords.... The swords did their job. Which was attacking the hands.. and they succeeded. However, Madara himself couldn't keep it up =]

Now you'll mention the "hands" that Hashirama used to stop the sword the first time.. But the thing is the hands didn't get in the front of the swords.=]
 

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No... it doesn't. It specifically states the feelings of the Sage are INSIDE the sword.. not that the sword is powered by the emotions of the Rikudou.

Highly false. The only reason the Buddha got even damaged was due to the swords.... The swords did their job. Which was attacking the hands.. and they succeeded. However, Madara himself couldn't keep it up =]

Now you'll mention the "hands" that Hashirama used to stop the sword the first time.. But the thing is the hands didn't get in the front of the swords.=]

LOL wow just wow. Denial at it's best. Sounds like you're twisting things. It said that the Sages feelings dwell inside the sword. The definition of dwell means to be inside or live in.

If Madara PS really does break all creation then the Buddah should be destroyed all in 1 attack including when it was stopped with it's hands.
 

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LOL wow just wow. Denial at it's best. Sounds like you're twisting things. It said that the Sages feelings dwell inside the sword. The definition of dwell means to be inside or live in.

If Madara PS really does break all creation then the Buddah should be destroyed all in 1 attack including when it was stopped with it's hands.

Just like how Hashirama's will dwells inside every single shinobi that believes in the Will of fire.. Dwelling inside means its already there..... did Obito say its powered by it? no... I'm going with the literal definition and how it connects. What your going with is a assumption.

Highly false. Now your making excuses.. even though i already explained it to you.. You sure you aren't the one in Denial?
 

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Just like how Hashirama's will dwells inside every single shinobi that believes in the Will of fire.. Dwelling inside means its already there..... did Obito say its powered by it? no... I'm going with the literal definition and how it connects. What your going with is a assumption.

Highly false. Now your making excuses.. even though i already explained it to you.. You sure you aren't the one in Denial?

No excuses here. Ps breaks all creation but couldn't destroy Buddah :rolleyes: The sword is made from the Rikudous soul, we can only ponder what it's powered by but the only logical choice is his feelings like the manga dictates.
 

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Excellent theming on Kishi's part, maybe it's supposed to foreshadow that Sasuke is still the opponent of Rikudou's Will?

I do think Obito lost because his Will started to diminish though.

This is a good observation KingHashirama =D
 

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No excuses here. Ps breaks all creation but couldn't destroy Buddah :rolleyes: The sword is made from the Rikudous soul, we can only ponder what it's powered by but the only logical choice is his feelings like the manga dictates.

Highly false, just because the will of the sage dwells in it.. does not mean its created from his SOUL.... The manga doesn't dictate anything about the sword being weaker in Obito's hand.. It just talks about the sword as a sword..

And "couldn't break the buddha"... because the attack couldn't reach the buddha..... there is something called "range"... Anything in the swords range that PS's sword attacked got destroyed.... Notice how the buddha itself wasn't attacked.. because of its hands...

Excellent theming on Kishi's part, maybe it's supposed to foreshadow that Sasuke is still the opponent of Rikudou's Will?

I do think Obito lost because his Will started to diminish though.

This is a good observation KingHashirama =D

Sadly, the sword made no connection to Obito's will.
 
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