The Chatroom Corner V.4

Shanks

Active member
Elite
Joined
Oct 19, 2014
Messages
6,013
Kin
2,712💸
Kumi
974💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
You must be registered for see medias
Wow beautiful voice . :eek:
Post automatically merged:

*Drops by the section i used to spam the shit out of 10 years ago*

:lok:
Do you still miss those days when you were banning people ;) I was reading my infraction threads you sent 6 years ago to behave like civil on threads . So who is managing RP now is still Uchiha Madara guy i forgot rei was RP admin back then ?
 
Last edited:

Avani

Supreme
Joined
Jan 26, 2009
Messages
20,189
Kin
5,693💸
Kumi
497💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Status
I think that vegan debates are getting popular here , Animebase will turn into foodbase soon .
I find it too tiresome. Western people have a habit to run after latest fad and get overzealous about it. But it's the same people who started drinking radium water when they found this radioactive element first.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Shanks

Avani

Supreme
Joined
Jan 26, 2009
Messages
20,189
Kin
5,693💸
Kumi
497💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Status
I am planning to turn vegan at somepoint , my family has history of diabetes and heart disease that runs through generation .
Don't go to extreme Shanks if it's for health reasons. Vegetarian food is ok. But there is no harm in occasional egg and dairy and over dependence on supplements can be problematic for many. Not just B12, but Iron, Calcium, Vitamin A vitamin D, Zinc selenium etc are needed too.

I have been anemic and suffered some major problems when growing up. Some years ago I developed hypothyroid at some point meaning I should not touch any soy product, broccoli, spinach, cabbage, cauliflower, nuts and seeds, strawberries, peaches etc . I happen to develop it when I had replaced regular milk with soy products in my diet. It maybe a coincident but I still wonder. And doctor said depression might have triggered hypothyroidism or hypothyroidism might have triggered depression problem. That they could not say for sure. But guess what vegan diet lead nutrient deficiency might also be a reason.

And yes sometimes depression maybe triggered because of lack of nutrients.

The replacement products they make are crap and never should be touched. Body doesn't absorb 100% of nutrient from one source. Not even from tablets.

If you go vegan, you may as well get regular tests to keep the level of nutrients.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Shanks

YowYan

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 9, 2010
Messages
15,124
Kin
1,244💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
I am vegetarian for forever. No meant ever, nor wish to. But Vegan is not always healthy. One has to be plan too carefully and still need a lot of supplements not just B12.
Literally every vegan I know in person and the activists I follow online don't take anything other than b12 or a multivitamin, or not even b12. Going on 8 to 30 years without deficiencies.

What does that say about your understanding regarding the diet?
Post automatically merged:

I am planning to turn vegan at somepoint , my family has history of diabetes and heart disease that runs through generation .
My father was rushed to the hospital back in 2007. Turned out he had acute diabetes. He turned vegan for 2 years and baffled his doctors with his blood results so they said he doesn't have to use insulin as often anymore and in the form of a shot.

My girlfriend had ovarian cancer which is linked to the consumption of dairy. Quit dairy and meat and lost her bowel irritation almost immediately.

Tons of anecdotes in favor of veganism yet another ton against it by people who have no real knowledge regarding nutrition.

Don't forget that all the zinc, calcium, and other minerals are found in many plant-based ingredients.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Shanks

Avani

Supreme
Joined
Jan 26, 2009
Messages
20,189
Kin
5,693💸
Kumi
497💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Status
Literally every vegan I know in person and the activists I follow online don't take anything other than b12 or a multivitamin, or not even b12. Going on 8 to 30 years without deficiencies.

What does that say about your understanding regarding the diet?
Post automatically merged:



My father was rushed to the hospital back in 2007. Turned out he had acute diabetes. He turned vegan for 2 years and baffled his doctors with his blood results so they said he doesn't have to use insulin as often anymore and in the form of a shot.

My girlfriend had ovarian cancer which is linked to the consumption of dairy. Quit dairy and meat and lost her bowel irritation almost immediately.

Tons of anecdotes in favor of veganism yet another ton against it by people who have no real knowledge regarding nutrition.

Don't forget that all the zinc, calcium, and other minerals are found in many plant-based ingredients.
Not everyone in the world lives under same circumstances and environment and have access to same things as you. How about you live happily in your bubble and not bother with the rest?

What suits one person may not to another. Your GF being allergic to dairfy or some out there being allergic to gluten doesn't mean rest of the world cannot eat dairy and wheat either.

By the way ovarian cancer being linked to dairy- I would like to see the actual research paper. My aunt and grandma both suffered from it. And guess what neither of them used dairy products in decades at the time. Not even in tea.
 

YowYan

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 9, 2010
Messages
15,124
Kin
1,244💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Not everyone in the world lives under same circumstances and environment and have access to same things as you. How about you live happily in your bubble and not bother with the rest?

What suits one person may not to another. Your GF being allergic to dairfy or some out there being allergic to gluten doesn't mean rest of the world cannot eat dairy and wheat either.
I already corrected this notion earlier. The cheapest foods are vegan, even the poorest of poor are better off buying or growing crops instead of wasting water and feed on a cow to later on milk its pus secretions.

Roughly 65% of the global population is lactose intolerant and my girl is asian so from her demography its 70 to 100% that do not match well with the consumption of dairy.

Got no beef with wheat
 

YowYan

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 9, 2010
Messages
15,124
Kin
1,244💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Veganism sounded nice until I heard people get hospitalised because of it and you know what the doctors fed them to get better? Tuna.

Veganism didn't do that, a bad diet did. Juice fasts and living off of salads will get you in trouble, obviously. How come others go 20+ years as a vegan without health complications? Here's a doctor correcting the misinformation out there.

You must be registered for see medias
 
  • Like
Reactions: Shanks

Marin

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Dec 9, 2015
Messages
4,796
Kin
306💸
Kumi
2,001💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Veganism didn't do that, a bad diet did. Juice fasts and living off of salads will get you in trouble, obviously. How come others go 20+ years as a vegan without health complications? Here's a doctor correcting the misinformation out there.

You must be registered for see medias
Sure but how much time and energy do you expect everyone to put into planning a meal?
Post automatically merged:

Hot take: the early shippuden fillers were kinda dope
 
Last edited:

YowYan

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 9, 2010
Messages
15,124
Kin
1,244💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Sure but how much time and energy do you expect everyone to put into planning a meal?
It may take a week or two of gathering information and recipees.

For example, what to eat as a woman for you to regain iron after your period. Or just in general.

If the motivation is health, people last long. If the motivation is animal liberation, its usually permanent.
 

Avani

Supreme
Joined
Jan 26, 2009
Messages
20,189
Kin
5,693💸
Kumi
497💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Status
I already corrected this notion earlier. The cheapest foods are vegan, even the poorest of poor are better off buying or growing crops instead of wasting water and feed on a cow to later on milk its pus secretions.

Roughly 65% of the global population is lactose intolerant and my girl is asian so from her demography its 70 to 100% that do not match well with the consumption of dairy.

Got no beef with wheat
As said before it's not about you. Cheapest food maybe vegan if you just compare it with meat. But supplements that are needed are not always affordable for everyone and costs and availability is not the same. Nor keeping track of it. And I can start throwing links back to you why vegan is unhealthiest diets if I really wanted to get into argument. But I have no patience for it. When it comes to it, it's personal decision and everyone has a right to decide it for themselves . For example, people who eat vegan and vegetarian diets have a lower risk of heart disease and a higher risk of stroke.

How is your attitude any different than the evangelical guy next door who wants everyone to follow his lifestyle thinking it's for their own good? What part of not interested is so vague for you? Stop chasing after people.
 

YowYan

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 9, 2010
Messages
15,124
Kin
1,244💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
As said before it's not about you. Cheapest food is began but supplements that are needed are not always affordable for everyone and costs and availability is not the same. And I can start throwing links back to you why vegaan is unhealthiest diets if I really wanted to get into argument. But I have no patience for it. When it comes to it, it's personal decision and everyone has a right to decide it for themselves . for example people who eat vegan and vegetarian diets have a lower risk of heart disease and a higher risk of stroke.

How is your attitude any different than the evengelical guy next door who wants everyone to follow his lifestyle thinking it's for their own good? What part of not interested is so vague for you? Stop chasing after people.
You're right, it's not about me. It's about animal liberation and if you have the choice to live healthily without financing animal exploitation, the choice should be easy.

There are a lot of articles trying to discredit veganism and many of them have been financed by, for example, the dairy indsutry.

The claim of higher risk of stroke, which makes no sense, and the one about higher risk of bone fractures have been debunked already. "Lifestyle factors that increase your risk of stroke include high blood pressure, smoking, diabetes, high blood cholesterol levels, heavy drinking, high salt and high fat diet and lack of exercise. Someone who has already experienced a stroke is at increased risk of having another." Now, how do you get high blood pressure, diabetes, high blood cholesterol levels and high fat?



Anyways, I can also drop plenty of articles by the who, medical institutes, etc. claiming that a vegan diet is the healthiest one.

I'll stop correcting you when I don't see you giving members misinformation.
 
Top