The Byakugan Is Quite Suited To Fight The Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan (Explained)

[BlueNote]

Your arguments are BS, if he destroys Susano'o the user can regenerate, AND kill him with the sword. You act as if the user will stand there and masturbate while he does this. And your Amaterasu argument is so flawed, wow. Ridiculous.

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quit being a douchebag the guy came up with some good points and all you can come up with is amaterasu is greater than all byakugan fodder . I can really take that comment seriously when i see a uchiha for your avatar. next time you want to troll i want you to stop think of a good reason to do it think it over again deleted what you were going to type and slap yourself until you get an ounce of intelligence:flaw:

 

[New Era]

Show me a manga scan were it says the Byakugan can predict movements

the byakugan see's around the user also that is why he was able to block naruto attacks from behind if that's what you meant.

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[Maunten]

the byakugan see's around the user also that is why he was able to block naruto attacks from behind if that's what you meant.

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Nice find.

 

[Kaedon]

The persistent posts asking for manga scans should have made a point by now. Byakugan is not the type of dojutsu that can predict movement. It is a visual power that allows the user to see chakra, specifically the chakra network and the various pressure points (I dont remember the technical term). It also gives the user the ability to see through objects and gives them a near perfect 360 degree view angle. (Which by the way should be more of a weakness than a strength but hey, this is fiction let's just skip by the part about how impossible it would be to process that much information at once..)

Anyway, the point being that Sharingan and Byakugan work in different ways in terms of their perception. The Sharingan sees all action within the field of view, this is illustrated as seeing things in slow-motion. It's because of this effect that Uchiha have been able to predict attacks, create counters and even copy entire techniques. This is beyond Byakugan which can only grants the greater field of vision and chakra perception.

Now, to assume someone can predict or more basic than that -- react to anything they can "see" is pure nonsense. The ability to simply see an action doesn't mean you understand it nor can you necessarily react to it. For a simple example, lets take sports since I saw someone utter some nonsensical comparison of anime abilities to athletes. Do you really think any regular ole' Joe could hit a 100 mph pitch from a major league pitcher just because they are able to see it? That's crazy talk, athletes that train and play their entire lives struggle with it.

Neji isn't fast enough to react to any glimpse he even sees. Unless he can do his spin 24/7 he would fall to any chidori variant. This may not be a vs. thread but the same principle can be applied to any Byakugan fight, if the Hyuga member isn't at the same physical level as their opponent their vision will not be as useful as some of you would like to believe.

 

[Maunten]

The persistent posts asking for manga scans should have made a point by now. Byakugan is not the type of dojutsu that can predict movement. It is a visual power that allows the user to see chakra, specifically the chakra network and the various pressure points (I dont remember the technical term). It also gives the user the ability to see through objects and gives them a near perfect 360 degree view angle. (Which by the way should be more of a weakness than a strength but hey, this is fiction let's just skip by the part about how impossible it would be to process that much information at once..)

Anyway, the point being that Sharingan and Byakugan work in different ways in terms of their perception. The Sharingan sees all action within the field of view, this is illustrated as seeing things in slow-motion. It's because of this effect that Uchiha have been able to predict attacks, create counters and even copy entire techniques. This is beyond Byakugan which can only grants the greater field of vision and chakra perception.

Now, to assume someone can predict or more basic than that -- react to anything they can "see" is pure nonsense. The ability to simply see an action doesn't mean you understand it nor can you necessarily react to it. For a simple example, lets take sports since I saw someone utter some nonsensical comparison of anime abilities to athletes. Do you really think any regular ole' Joe could hit a 100 mph pitch from a major league pitcher just because they are able to see it? That's crazy talk, athletes that train and play their entire lives struggle with it.

Neji isn't fast enough to react to any glimpse he even sees. Unless he can do his spin 24/7 he would fall to any chidori variant. This may not be a vs. thread but the same principle can be applied to any Byakugan fight, if the Hyuga member isn't at the same physical level as their opponent their vision will not be as useful as some of you would like to believe.

Scans has been given above your post, a long with a scan in the OP, anyone can predict movements.

The Uchiha and the Hyuga are the best at doing so.

Btw someone persistently asking for scans does not make any point, someone was asking me for a scan that "says" the hyuga can see with their eyes closed.

 

[madali]

Did you really just say that? How ****ing stupid can you be? Why would anyone let the enemy on their back just to see what they were capable of. Neji realized what was happening after Zetsu went on his back to suck his chakra. And then you talk about ignorance. GTFOH with that shit. Go back and read the manga and watch the anime you dumb ****.

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Does this look like the face of a man who purposely got himself captured?

Calm yourself jackass its a fuc*ing cartoon damn

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Post in another thread:

Another point for Neji is that he can even create a barrier of chakra that deflect every attacks in this area:

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[Scryed]

Every MS have different abilities. I don't see Sasuke spamming Kamui or Koto Amatsukami. Itachi apparently transfered his own ocular powers to Sasuke. So if those things actually work, it would only apply to Sasuke. If Itachi has the Yata Mirror, Neji would have to attack from behind. That's if your statements actually work. You didn't explain offensive though only defensive.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Read post 236 if your ever bored I backed up this thread some more.

Out of konoha 11 after naruto I believe neji is the best candidate to go up against sasuke. It would be a really interesting battle I would love to see what neji can actually counter

I agree, Neji would be the best candidate, I just wish we could see more from him.

You honestly used no proof in your argument, all you said is that we shouldn't be logical...seriously?

If you need proof for anything I said, you are just a dumb ass troll. I said you can't use Naruto logic because it's different from real world logic, can we run up walls? Can we run on water? Can we expel blue energy from our bodies and manipulate it to form elements? No, what the fuk do you mean? of course we can't use logic. Please, if you are not going to contribute to anything I said and be completely ignorant to what I'm trying to say, stfu talking to me, I don't have time for BS.

Thanks for +rep, as for the subject of logic, I do get that plot can get in the way yes lol.

I however was basing this on the ability of Byakugan vs EMS pointing out that they can win unless Kishi makes them suddenly forget they have this ability.



Yes I need to have the Sharingan to know that someone is about to punch me in the face, otherwise I stand there and smile.

This is true, everyone knows the most hax jutsu in Naruto is plot no jutsu lol

 

[Rafeal brown]

Neji is no match for sasuke lol... I bet pre ms sasuke could beat him up.

 

[Kaedon]

No, nothing has been posted that indicates Byakugan can predict movement and it's even more of an unrealistic notion to say anyone can predict movement. If you mean guess, then sure, anyone could guess and then rightfully get smashed by an attack when they guess wrong.

If all shinobi could predict movement than the narutoverse would far more balanced and it would come down to who's jutsu trumps who's. Yes, some shinobi can predict some movement. This is usually presented as a skill level indicator, a highly experienced jounin or above will more than likely be able to correctly deduce a genin's fighting style and predict certain attacks. This is not the same as being able to read an attack like the Sharingan does in real time. No guess-work or experience needed, nor do you have to see the attack before hand. It's very, very different.

If Neji possessed such a skill he wouldn't have been trashed by the opponent's he's faced so far, like Naruto or the Sound Four ninja. Yet, he's been surprised by more attacks than he's actually countered. Honestly, the Byagukan has no advantage over the Sharingan in any of it's state's except the points already noted -- which, in a one on one fight don't mean much other than someone can't sneak behind you and you can use gentle fist correctly (should you know how to do so).

So the real argument comes down to the gentle fist abilities and not the Byagukan. I can see where this is confusing because you need Byagukan to use gentle fist correctly but they are in fact separate things. One is a fighting style with fighting techniques, the other is a Kekkei Genkai dojutsu. The thread was titled in a way that made me think this was suppose to be about two dojutsu and why one countered the other.

Edit: To be clear, gentle fist doesn't do you a whole lot of good against an opponent who is way above you, unless there are other factors involved. I'm not trying to be harsh, Neji is one of my favorites but you got to draw the line on bias somewhere, especially when comparing shinobi from way different tiers of skill and ability.

 

[XxRikudoSenninXx]

Nice thread in all but, c'mon EMS Sauske>Neji

 

[joelmckenzie]

byakugan is better

 

[xjimbox]

I can understand this this seems logical

 

[Maunten]

No, nothing has been posted that indicates Byakugan can predict movement and it's even more of an unrealistic notion to say anyone can predict movement. If you mean guess, then sure, anyone could guess and then rightfully get smashed by an attack when they guess wrong.

If all shinobi could predict movement than the narutoverse would far more balanced and it would come down to who's jutsu trumps who's. Yes, some shinobi can predict some movement. This is usually presented as a skill level indicator, a highly experienced jounin or above will more than likely be able to correctly deduce a genin's fighting style and predict certain attacks. This is not the same as being able to read an attack like the Sharingan does in real time. No guess-work or experience needed, nor do you have to see the attack before hand. It's very, very different.

If Neji possessed such a skill he wouldn't have been trashed by the opponent's he's faced so far, like Naruto or the Sound Four ninja. Yet, he's been surprised by more attacks than he's actually countered. Honestly, the Byagukan has no advantage over the Sharingan in any of it's state's except the points already noted -- which, in a one on one fight don't mean much other than someone can't sneak behind you and you can use Kaiten (should you know how to do so).

So the real argument comes down to the Kaiten abilities and not the Byagukan. I can see where this is confusing because you need Byagukan to use Kaiten correctly but they are in fact separate things. One is a fighting style with fighting techniques, the other is a Kekkei Genkai dojutsu. The thread was titled in a way that made me think this was suppose to be about two dojutsu and why one countered the other.

Edit: To be clear, Kaiten doesn't do you a whole lot of good against an opponent who is way above you, unless there are other factors involved. I'm not trying to be harsh, Neji is one of my favorites but you got to draw the line on bias somewhere, especially when comparing shinobi from way different tiers of skill and ability.

If you mean the Uchiha are psychics then I have to disagree with you there.

Everyone in NU can make a prediction, and they can all be wrong, the Sharingan and the Byakugan give the user the ability to make very well informed predictions.

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Another feat of foresight.

 

[choft]

I don't know why EMS = Sasuke. *shrug*

How is Neji stopping Kurama? Can the Byakugan control Kurama?

 

[Maunten]

I don't know why EMS = Sasuke. *shrug*

How is Neji stopping Kurama? Can the Byakugan control Kurama?

Who stops karuma??

Super elite uchiha...I've only seen two

A freak of nature senju....I've only seen one.

Don't talk about Sasuke anyone, that was a small amount of Karuma seeping through the seal.

 

[Brooks]

This is by the wrost thread.

 

[lsgteam]

I don't know why EMS = Sasuke. *shrug*

How is Neji stopping Kurama? Can the Byakugan control Kurama?

Sasuke is one of the best Sharingan user... Lets compare an usual Uchiha to another usual Hyuga and the Uchiha gets his ass kicked.