The benefits of Sasuke's revolution.

[ANiMUS]

People say that peace built on a mountain of corpses isn't peace, yet most of you praise Itachi for slaughtering the Uchiha clan to maintain peace in Konoha.

#ScrewLogic

Lol good point.

 

[SuperChief]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[BLAZE]

So6p bashing?

Dat awesome conclusion u jumped on :|

Force? not reading the manga much?

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Proves nothing.I was talking strictly about Sasuke to Honored Sage becoz he wants Naruto to force his opinion on Sasuke.
r u Honored Sage

All the five nations have learnt from the mistakes of the past and want to live peacefully

:leaf: the fanfiction named peace
Happily Ever After like a Disney Movie :leaf:

Naruto is neither the one to force anyone to do anything nor does he need to

So whats ur point i was strictly talking about Honored Sages and few other people who wants Naruto to force their opinion on others
r u one of them

There is only one and correct "version" of peace, that is people by themselves deciding living in harmony and peace

True Peace is fanfiction :vincent:
there is no version of it but what we can do is 'keep striving for the pro of society if we want a better world for future genration'

Living under a constant fear of getting killed by a teenager is not peace, its called oppression and dictatorship

No dats called fanfic opinion becoz it hasn't happened anywhere and will not happen anywhere in the future

Viz isn't out

thanks bro

People say that peace built on a mountain of corpses isn't peace, yet most of you praise Itachi for slaughtering the Uchiha clan to maintain peace in Konoha.

#ScrewLogic

Pro Sasuke again
u r on fire Lol

 

[ANiMUS]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

This is true which is y no matter how perfect Sasuke's plan is it would eventually fail.

 

[1Told]

People say that peace built on a mountain of corpses isn't peace, yet most of you praise Itachi for slaughtering the Uchiha clan to maintain peace in Konoha.

#ScrewLogic

Itachi had free will too, he believed it was the best thing to do, no problem with logic imo

peace means nothing, harmony, intelligence and justice are more important!

 

[BLAZE]

Itachi had free will too, he believed it was the best thing to do, no problem with logic imo

He believed and still believes he failed

peace means nothing,

True

harmony, intelligence and justice are more important!

Yes more important though it gaurantees nothing
example
Harmony:Uchihas wanted Harmony they got denied
Intelligence: The one who commited Massacare and the other one who forced them tried control them thus resulting in their massacre
Justice: Its the world of cold blooded killers

 

[NineSNS]

The only problem is Sasuke nvr once said he wanted Peace or world peace or peace for eternity
He just wants to create a Stable system.A system unified for one purpose to oppose a nvr Disappearing EVIL

Stable = absence of conflict = peace. Sasuke would be opposed to a false peace obtained by the sacrifices of some (Uchiha massacre), but in essence he is advocating genuine peace regardless of what he calls it.

 

[Vapid]

Itachi had free will too, he believed it was the best thing to do, no problem with logic imo

peace means nothing, harmony, intelligence and justice are more important!

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Those are all attributes of peace. l0l

 

[cafe123]

revolution is a childish idea, it doesn't mean anything good, sorry but it's just like democracy: look nice on a piece of paper but not irl :eww:

both Sasuke and Naruto are brat, they are ignorant and tbh they will not resolve all the problems with politics, this is what Madara and the first did and guess wut, it didn't work of course!

Lol, retarded statement.

 

[BLAZE]

Stable = absence of conflict = peace.

No a stable system does have conflict

asuke would be opposed to a false peace obtained by the sacrifices of some (Uchiha massacre),

dats why he is the Antagonist :|

but in essence he is advocating genuine peace regardless of what he calls it.

No he is trying to force his opinion through power
His view dat if u can't eradicate the hatred of shinobi system then channel it on urself for eternity

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[juzumaki]

their would be no peace since sasuke would have to kill people constantly so that he remains the threat

 

[Trea]

Sasuke's way is just Danzo on steroids without anyone to keep an eye on him. Look what Danzo was capable of with Saru keeping him in check once in a while and then think about what he could have done without ever having to answer to anybody. Then you will have current Sasuke's plan.

Won't work and the fact that part of his plan has to be carried out while everyone is in IT is proof of that. If he was so sure his way was the right way he would share his ideas with everyone. This is just a way to serve Indra's desire for power.

 

[ANiMUS]

Sasuke's way is just Danzo on steroids without anyone to keep an eye on him. Look what Danzo was capable of with Saru keeping him in check once in a while and then think about what he could have done without ever having to answer to anybody. Then you will have current Sasuke's plan.

Won't work and the fact that part of his plan has to be carried out while everyone is in IT is proof of that. If he was so sure his way was the right way he would share his ideas with everyone. This is just a way to serve Indra's desire for power.

Sasuke's way actually tries to solve the nations problem and addresses the cycle of hatred whereas Danzo only wanted to become world ruler :| Sasuke and Danzo's ambitions and methods are worlds apart.

Besides that Sasuke's plan requires everyone to hate him. Them understanding where he is coming from wouldn't help in that matter.

 

[BLAZE]

Sasuke's way is just Danzo on steroids without anyone to keep an eye on him. Look what Danzo was capable of with Saru keeping him in check once in a while and then think about what he could have done without ever having to answer to anybody. Then you will have current Sasuke's plan.

Won't work and the fact that part of his plan has to be carried out while everyone is in IT is proof of that. If he was so sure his way was the right way he would share his ideas with everyone.

Yes i agree Sasuke will just give the babies of his country to a madman for experiments and also create a Anbu like division to make people cold blooded killers with no emotions
He will try to take help from others to destroy his own Village
Sasuke will order massacre of his people and stuck their eyes on his body

Sasuke's way actually tries to solve the nations problem and addresses the cycle of hatred whereas Danzo only wanted to become world ruler :| Sasuke and Danzo's ambitions and methods are worlds apart.

Besides that Sasuke's plan requires everyone to hate him. Them understanding where he is coming from wouldn't help in that matter.

can u explain dat a bit more

Off Topic : ur sigs :|

 

[1Told]

He believed and still believes he failed

True

Yes more important though it gaurantees nothing
example
Harmony:Uchihas wanted Harmony they got denied
Intelligence: The one who commited Massacare and the other one who forced them tried control them thus resulting in their massacre
Justice: Its the world of cold blodded killers

well perfection is not part of this world, deal with it =D

that's why the one ring to rule them all mindset is cray-cray and delusional, life is about making mistakes to become wiser and finally to reach a good god like state, once you are here, evil simply perish.

everybody must attain this state not just one person above all of them, this will lead again to war and horrors.

Naruto's path is mirroring Sasuke's one, he already understood what must be done:

not being alone and knowing all aspects of love (vs being a lonely figure only and allowing only hate to reach you)
helping each others to evolve (vs doing your stuff on your side and abandon the others along the road) and change for a better common life without erasing the past, good or bad everything counts (vs selfish self centered life, suppressing the past and believing good can be achieved being yourself a bad person)
but without denying the importance of violence, hate, pain (vs rejecting feelings and actions because they are dark/bad)
and accepting whatever people are feeling deep inside (they both agree about this one).

Sasuke is at a crossroad, this is not who he really is, he's like possessed by all this power and illusion for so long now!
the wake up call is coming soon

 

[ANiMUS]

Yes i agree Sasuke will just give the babies of his country to a madman for experiments and also create a Anbu like division to make people cold blooded killers with no emotions
He will try to take help from others to destroy his own Village
Sasuke will order massacre of his people and stuck their eyes on his body


can u explain dat a bit more

Off Topic : ur sigs :|

Sasuke is painting himself as an enemy to unite them. If you tell ppl that that is your aim is to get them to play nice and they hate u they would only resist banding together Bcuz they know what u want.

Even if they came to see Sasuke's point it would just hinder them from seeing Sasuke as a real villain.

Sigs: I have awesome taste don't i? :yayy:

 

[BLAZE]

well perfection is not part of this world, deal with it =D

I know dat =D

that's why the one ring to rule them all mindset is cray-cray and delusional, life is about making mistakes to become wiser and finally to reach a good god like state, once you are here, evil simply perish.

No in real world Evil flourish =D

everybody must attain this state not just one person above all of them, this will lead again to war and horrors.

Dat is Impossible in Naruto Verse with Sasuke being the only Uchiha =D

Naruto's path is mirroring Sasuke's one, he already understood what must be done:

The only thing dat is logical is Naruto should Kill Sasuke
But F@#k Logic
Underwear Buddies FTW

not being alone and knowing all aspects of love (vs being a lonely figure only and allowing only hate to reach you)

Naruto VS Sasuke

helping each others to evolve (vs doing your stuff on your side and abandon the others along the road)

Cooperation VS Loneliness

and change for a better common life without erasing the past,

But people want peace and dats the Problem

good or bad everything counts (vs selfish self centered life, suppressing the past and believing good can be achieved being yourself a bad person)

Good and Bad
Now tell me who is good and who is bad in these for u
Itachi and Danzo
Now think what will Narutoverse say =D

but without denying the importance of violence, hate, pain (vs rejecting feelings and actions because they are dark/bad)

Naruto has till now just said this

Yup, that's y it's kinda disappointing that all Naruto has said to counter Sasuke's argument is that he won't let Sasuke be alone

Trying to save a person who is beyond saving and thus putting life of others on line

and accepting whatever people are feeling deep inside (they both agree about this one).

yeah they do

Sasuke is at a crossroad.

this made me laugh, Agreed

, this is not who he really is,.

Dats what he really is

he's like possessed by all this power and illusion for so long now! .

He is something dats not required in the Current system
Something everyone wants to get rid of
why becoz he is reminder of their past horrors and now a horror for them himself

the wake up call is coming soon

I know dat Lol

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Thanks shiro i will rep u for it when i can :yayy:

 

[1Told]

no no no no they don't need a scapegoat anymore

 

[UzumakiWade]

The benefits of his plan is that there are no benefits.

Thats why it failed.

 

[BLAZE]

no no no no they don't need a scapegoat anymore

i agree :|

The benefits of his plan is that there are no benefits.

Thats why it failed.

:|