The battle of the weakest Kages - who is the strongest weakest Kage?

Who is the strongest weak Kage?

  • Mei

    Votes: 9 18.4%
  • Tsunade

    Votes: 12 24.5%
  • Hiruzen

    Votes: 17 34.7%
  • 4th Kazekage

    Votes: 11 22.4%

  • Total voters
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MickNerks

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Everyone on this thread is completely ignorant to what was already said in the Managa.

Hiruzen is essentially the strongest of the kages you have mentioned, and in no way is hiruzen the weakest of the kages. It has already been stated that Hiruzen is the strongest of the kages during his reign (even in his old age).

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This already shows Hiruzen as being superior to the 4th Kazekage. (As the 4th kazekage was the last reigning kage of the hidden sand before oro killed him). And this makes hiruzen during his old age stronger than both 2nd Mizukage(killed Muu) , 4th Mizukage (perfect Jinchuriki), and 3rd raikage.

Now if old hiruzen is stronger than 3rd raikage, there is no way in HELLL that tsunade can beat him, and also if Hiruzen is stronger than the 4th mizukage that must also mean that he could go toe to toe with Mei.

All this underestimation of hiruzen is primarily due to no one having seen his full arsenal, so you speculate. Well, the manga has already told you or hinted to you how powerful hiruzen is.

1. He mastered all forms of shinobi combat - Which means his Taijustu, Ninjustu, Genjutsu, Kenjutsu, and fuinjutsu is flawless and superior to most.

2. He learned and mastered all jutsu that exist in the leaf - which quite possibly mean this man is able to use all elements, and has a counter for most (if not every) jutsu used against him.

3. He is hailed as a TRUE GENIUS (the Proffessor) - which means his analytical skills and battle prowess is teirs above most others (basically on or above itachi and minato's level of genius)

4. He was held as a GOD of Shinobi in his Prime - Which means the man is not to be triffled with and is a Massive Powerhouse (even in old age).



Stop this ridiculus underrating of this brilliant shinobi and give credit to where credit is due.

To the OP (if you couldnt tell already), Hiruzen takes this.
 
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Everyone on this thread is completely ignorant to what was already said in the Managa.

Hiruzen is essentially the strongest of the kages you have mentioned, and in no way is hiruzen the weakest of the kages. It has already been stated that Hiruzen is the strongest of the kages during his reign (even in his old age).

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This already shows Hiruzen as being superior to the 4th Kazekage. (As the 4th kazekage was the last reigning kage of the hidden sand before oro killed him). And this makes hiruzen during his old age stronger than both 2nd Mizukage(killed Muu) , 4th Mizukage (perfect Jinchuriki), and 3rd raikage.

Now if old hiruzen is stronger than 3rd raikage, there is no way in HELLL that tsunade can beat him, and also if Hiruzen is stronger than the 4th mizukage that must also mean that he could go toe to toe with Mei.

All this underestimation of hiruzen is primarily due to no one having seen his full arsenal, so you speculate. Well, the manga has already told you or hinted to you how powerful hiruzen is.

1. He mastered all forms of shinobi combat - Which means his Taijustu, Ninjustu, Genjutsu, Kenjutsu, and fuinjutsu is flawless and superior to most.

2. He learned and mastered all jutsu that exist in the leaf - which quite possibly mean this man is able to use all elements, and has a counter for most (if not every) jutsu used against him.

3. He is hailed as a TRUE GENIUS (the Proffessor) - which means his analytical skills and battle prowess is teirs above most others (basically on or above itachi and minato's level of genius)

4. He was held as a GOD of Shinobi in his Prime - Which means the man is not to be triffled with and is a Massive Powerhouse (even in old age).



Stop this ridiculus underrating of this brilliant shinobi and give credit to where credit is due.

To the OP (if you couldnt tell already), Hiruzen takes this.

90% of what you said,focused on hype,which is useless. He has no feats yet,until then,he gets killed by a gold dust wave,unless you know any jutsu he has shown that counters it?.
 

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Everyone on this thread is completely ignorant to what was already said in the Managa.

Hiruzen is essentially the strongest of the kages you have mentioned, and in no way is hiruzen the weakest of the kages. It has already been stated that Hiruzen is the strongest of the kages during his reign (even in his old age).

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This already shows Hiruzen as being superior to the 4th Kazekage. (As the 4th kazekage was the last reigning kage of the hidden sand before oro killed him). And this makes hiruzen during his old age stronger than both 2nd Mizukage(killed Muu) , 4th Mizukage (perfect Jinchuriki), and 3rd raikage.

Now if old hiruzen is stronger than 3rd raikage, there is no way in HELLL that tsunade can beat him, and also if Hiruzen is stronger than the 4th mizukage that must also mean that he could go toe to toe with Mei.

All this underestimation of hiruzen is primarily due to no one having seen his full arsenal, so you speculate. Well, the manga has already told you or hinted to you how powerful hiruzen is.

1. He mastered all forms of shinobi combat - Which means his Taijustu, Ninjustu, Genjutsu, Kenjutsu, and fuinjutsu is flawless and superior to most.

2. He learned and mastered all jutsu that exist in the leaf - which quite possibly mean this man is able to use all elements, and has a counter for most (if not every) jutsu used against him.

3. He is hailed as a TRUE GENIUS (the Proffessor) - which means his analytical skills and battle prowess is teirs above most others (basically on or above itachi and minato's level of genius)

4. He was held as a GOD of Shinobi in his Prime - Which means the man is not to be triffled with and is a Massive Powerhouse (even in old age).



Stop this ridiculus underrating of this brilliant shinobi and give credit to where credit is due.

To the OP (if you couldnt tell already), Hiruzen takes this.

Not this shit again :sy:
 

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90% of what you said,focused on hype,which is useless. He has no feats yet,until then,he gets killed by a gold dust wave,unless you know any jutsu he has shown that counters it?.

How is kabuto stating that he is known as the strongest of the 5 kages not valid???

Not this shit again :sy:

??? Is there a problem?
 

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How is kabuto stating that he is known as the strongest of the 5 kages not valid??

because,itls hype,he has no feats or any jutsu to back it up YET,it's just like tobirama. If i tell you to counter me when i say a gold dust wave kills him,how would you do it?,by saying kabuto said he was the strongest hokage?. That wont help you at all. Until he shows something,he looses.
 

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because,itls hype,he has no feats or any jutsu to back it up YET,it's just like tobirama. If i tell you to counter me when i say a gold dust wave kills him,how would you do it?,by saying kabuto said he was the strongest hokage?. That wont help you at all. Until he shows something,he looses.

This is the huge contradiction that this base faces.

You say its hype, becuase you havent actually seen it. Yet, Manga and Databook say it and they were written by the creator of manga. So you are going off your own "I think" logic, while i am going off what that creator of the manga says.

Now I understand that you say there is no way to explain how he counters certain things, and i can agree with you on that in certain situations. But when the creator plainly comes out and says "this guy is stronger than this other guy", I dont see how anyone can reject that statement. Even if YOU havent seen it (hiruzen's feats and full arsenal) the creator created the naruto universe so ultimately his word is definate.

Now if this was a kisame vs itachi thread then it would be ok to assume becuase the author has made no refrence to who is stronger and left it to our imagination to decide. But this is a completely diffrent matter.
 
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because,itls hype,he has no feats or any jutsu to back it up YET,it's just like tobirama. If i tell you to counter me when i say a gold dust wave kills him,how would you do it?,by saying kabuto said he was the strongest hokage?. That wont help you at all. Until he shows something,he looses.

Kabuto saw 4th kazekage and hiruzen killed. I think he'd know who's better. If kabuto, say, saw hashirama killed and sakura killed but basically said hashirama is stronger than her, how is that not valid? Assuming we didn't see their abilities yet. Because as of now, when we know their abilities, it's complete fact. He'd know what he's talking about. Even orochimaru commended him, and orochimaru roflstomped kazekage.

As for the gold dust thing... one of his earth jutsu would probably deal with that effortlessly. Between his shadow clones, enma, shadow shuriken, earth and fire jutsu, he takes down kazekage mid diff.
 
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Kabuto saw 4th kazekage and hiruzen killed. I think he'd know who's better. If kabuto, say, saw hashirama killed and sakura killed but basically said hashirama is stronger than her, how is that not valid? Assuming we didn't see their abilities yet. Because as of now, when we know their abilities, it's complete fact. He'd know what he's talking about. Even orochimaru commended him, and orochimaru roflstomped kazekage.

As for the gold dust thing... one of his earth jutsu would probably deal with that effortlessly. Between his shadow clones, enma, shadow shuriken, earth and fire jutsu, he takes down kazekage mid diff.

*Assasinated

No evidence of a battle

had to steal this from naku ;)
 

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You're underestimating all of them.
 

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The fourth or Mei could win. Hiruzen would put up a good battle in spite of his low stamina.Tsunade would be in trouble against such long ranged attacks.
 

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iirc you said the Sannins are mid kage + level then why is Tsunade here? :O

OT Kazekage takes this imo
 

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iirc you said the Sannins are mid kage + level then why is Tsunade here? :O

OT Kazekage takes this imo

Well I think I wasn't familiar with Tsunade's abilities when i created this thread.
The 4th Kazekage vs Tsunade is debatable tho, I can see the Yondaime winning it.
 

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2nd raikage got killed by jin and killed when even tobirama survived

yagura got mind controlled most likely all his life

4th kazekage got 1 shot by orochimaru and crew


I'm giving my vote to yagura. Being mind controlled for years is the epitome of you suck.
 

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Well I think I wasn't familiar with Tsunade's abilities when i created this thread.
The 4th Kazekage vs Tsunade is debatable tho, I can see the Yondaime winning it.

then prime Hiruzen >>> Tsunade because Orochimaru admitted that a 10 years younger Hiruzen would have owned him so it looks like

prime Hiruzen > 60 years old Hiruzen > Orochimaru > 4th Kazekage > Tsunade

prime Hiruzen >>>> Tsunade :whip:
 

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then prime Hiruzen >>> Tsunade because Orochimaru admitted that a 10 years younger Hiruzen would have owned him so it looks like

prime Hiruzen > 60 years old Hiruzen > Orochimaru > 4th Kazekage > Tsunade

prime Hiruzen >>>> Tsunade :whip:
Nah, this is A> B> C logic. But by feats Tsunade destroys even prime Hiruzen, considering prime Hiruzen lacks RDS :cool:
 

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hiruzen in a weakeast kage contest ? wtf..... lol. hiruzen solos.
 
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