The base is very bias when it comes to Hashirama

[Naijakid]

--Zetsu use the Mini shuisuusenju to create 5 elemental jutsu's nd the base thinks Hashirama can't achieve such feat

--Zetsu can use the mayfly technique and the base thinks Hashirama can't achieve such feat


Just b'cos Hashirama doesn't show such jutsu's doesn't mean he does not have them...and yall need to remember that zetsu's are only a failed experiments..............


P.S: This is my first thread of the year

 

[Snape Uchiha]

What you're referring to is not limited to Hashirama. Throughout the base fans underrate or overrate characters as they please, using whatever scraps of manga they can to prove their points.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

i mean i guess

 

[bam06005]

I mean...welcome to NB?

 

[Naijakid]

What you're referring to is not limited to Hashirama. Throughout the base fans underrate or overrate characters as they please, using whatever scraps of manga they can to prove their points.

SMH for such poor souls

i mean i guess

Yeah

I mean...welcome to NB?

Ummm....tankz

 

[roncato]

Rofl, Hashirama and Zetsu can't be even compared..

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

--Zetsu use the Mini shuisuusenju to create 5 elemental jutsu's nd the base thinks Hashirama can't achieve such feat

--Zetsu can use the mayfly technique and the base thinks Hashirama can't achieve such feat


Just b'cos Hashirama doesn't show such jutsu's doesn't mean he does not have them...and yall need to remember that zetsu's are only a failed experiments..............


P.S: This is my first thread of the year

Is hashirama able to use all of the elements? it was my assumption that zetsus shinsusenju was able to use them because he(Obito)/Madara are also in possession of the Rinnegan. so it was an altered version of Shinsusenju. Hashis shinsusenju could not use all nature elements however obviously it was a superior Mokuton by far.

Edit:

Two things...

1) It still hasnt been explained why Zetsu is wearing Obitos old clothes.
2) The range/techniques of Madaras Rinnegan powers have not been explained either.

 

[Tayhlor Uchiha]

Is hashirama able to use all of the elements? it was my assumption that zetsus shinsusenju was able to use them because he(Obito)/Madara are also in possession of the Rinnegan. so it was an altered version of Shinsusenju. Hashis shinsusenju could not use all nature elements however obviously it was a superior Mokuton by far.

Edit:

Two things...

1) It still hasnt been explained why Zetsu is wearing Obitos old clothes.
2) The range/techniques of Madaras Rinnegan powers have not been explained either.

for the last time spiral zetsu is either alone or with Yamato . He is not with obito ! Obito is with black zetsu , and those were madaras robes that he's wearing he has a bunch of them at his hideout just don't even try .

 

[Oblivionx]

it is applied to every character....! you feel that about hashirama because you are his fan, i feel the same way about minato....! but i think if it's anything base is more biased towards hashirama...!

 

[reizon]

Happy New thread.!!
lol.!!

even when people underrate hashirama he is still op.!!

even if people underrated hashirama, then will still agree that hashirama can take on itachi and minato at once mid diff.!!



manga has made him too op.!!

 

[AGoodBoy]

Because madara didn't create zetsu with ying yang and couldn't possibly give him extra abilities off the rinnegan?
So hashi can mentally communicate with zetsu now because madara and zetsu do it?
Why didn't hashi use mayfly to travel to the battlefield? Why did he run? He could have got them to ftg tag him and then mayfly.

The point is people need to stop giving away someone's feats to everyone else if it's not a standard feat (like basic clone jutsu' it's the same way people think kazekages can use all gaara's techs.

 

[Naijakid]

for the last time spiral zetsu is either alone or with Yamato . He is not with obito ! Obito is with black zetsu , and those were madaras robes that he's wearing he has a bunch of them at his hideout just don't even try .

Its too early for that imo

it is applied to every character....! you feel that about hashirama because you are his fan, i feel the same way about minato....! but i think if it's anything base is more biased towards hashirama...!

Nope, the biased is towards Madara

Happy New thread.!!
lol.!!

even when people underrate hashirama he is still op.!!

even if people underrated hashirama, then will still agree that hashirama can take on itachi and minato at once mid diff.!!



manga has made him too op.!!

Lol...Happy new thread indeed...

Because madara didn't create zetsu with ying yang and couldn't possibly give him extra abilities off the rinnegan?
So hashi can mentally communicate with zetsu now because madara and zetsu do it?
Why didn't hashi use mayfly to travel to the battlefield? Why did he run? He could have got them to ftg tag him and then mayfly.

The point is people need to stop giving away someone's feats to everyone else if it's not a standard feat (like basic clone jutsu' it's the same way people think kazekages can use all gaara's techs.

Shut da heck up....Madara only placed yin and yang on the black zetsu

Oh and by your logic Madara has only one rinnegan tech

 

[Gold Lightning]

Well when Hashirama actually reproduces a similar feat, then you can say whatever you want. But in the mean time let's just stop with the speculation and assumptions.

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

for the last time spiral zetsu is either alone or with Yamato . He is not with obito ! Obito is with black zetsu , and those were madaras robes that he's wearing he has a bunch of them at his hideout just don't even try .

dont even try what? unlike you i am not a fanboy of any character as they are all fictional.

Back to my original point however; Nowhere in the manga has it ever stated that Hashirama has mastery over all nature elements. It HAS been stated that Hiruzen was the only one to gain mastery over every element used within the Leaf.

Also, you are not the only person who believes Yamato might be fuelling Spiral Zetsus Mokuton however i am not narrow minded as i like debate.

Fact remains that Madaras full Rinnegan power has not been addressed and we have never seen Hashi use all the elements; even when he battled Madara using Shinsusenju.

 

[RikudouMadara]

I agree Hashirama can do all the things you mentioned in your post. Well....I believe he is more than capable.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Just because someone hasn't used something, doesnt mean they cant. Tonton can use Chibaku tensei untill prooven otherwise.

 

[Sjhsgjhsgjshjshjsh]

Zetsu is only a clone made from hashi and he is also weaker version of him mangafax

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[Lamb]

Well Zetsu can also replicate someone down to their chakra type. Does that mean Yamato or Hashirama can do it too?

 

[Oblivionx]

Well Zetsu can also replicate someone down to their chakra type. Does that mean Yamato or Hashirama can do it too?

now that is a great point....!

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Just because someone hasn't used something, doesnt mean they cant. Tonton can use Chibaku tensei untill prooven otherwise.

I can understand what you are saying, however had that been the case i still dont understand why hashi wouldnt have used it at any point during the manga. given the fact that he has had so many oppertunities.

So.. until its proven that hashi can, i think its more feasable totake the stance that this current attack was somehow linked to Madaras Rinnegan (use of all nature elements).