The Amaterasu downplay thread

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Don't even hate Minato. I don't hate any character actually. Tobirama has experience against Uchihas so I left him out. Minato was never hit by ama. The technique was still held by Sasuke and Naruto. Sasuke can completely control the flames, he held an enton blade as well and was unmarked.
Bull $hit to the max. Experience.. Great excuse, brilliant :rolleyes:. So basically you have no real reason, you just decided to leave tobirama off and put minato on -___-, despite the one yo left off being slower than the other, my goodness.

You act like Minato hasn't faced uchiha before, he ruled over them and defeated one of the most powerful uchihas of all time (stronger than izuna). Yet somehow minato can't evade a technique that Ay was able to excape, despite being slower than Minato and cee stating that both have comparable reactions???

Pls give me a proper reason other than that rubbish. And yes the flames were touching minato, the jutsu was active and in full effect, don't make excuses. So what if sasuke held the blade, it's his jutsu, it shouldnt hurt the user. Same way Mei's lava didn't burn her skin or fingers when she wiped it off her mouth.
 

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Jaraiya can seal Amaterasu

Ay already demonstrated that pain can be withstood. If ay can withstand Amaterasus burning then there's no reason to think jaraiya couldn't either. In that time he'll seal it before it does any real damage
 

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amaterasu hardly oneshots any of those people.

Minato has better reactions than Ei and is incomparably faster, if Ei can dodge it, so does minato. Plus, we've seen that enton rasenshuriken touched minato, yet minato teleported away and was unscathed by the flames.

SM Naruto senses the buildup and puts up a clone wall to protect himself. He has many ways to block LoS from clone walls, giant rasengan, ma and pa using dust cloud and smoke bombs. Jiraiya pretty much does the same too.

Gaara is pretty much immune to amaterasu since his body is always covered by sand armor. Mei can just block LoS with hidden mist. Tsunade can summon katsuya, oonoki can just fly out of range or block LoS with his rock bushins or golem.

Tailed beasts are probably all fodder to amaterasu as well as boss summons unless they have special abilities like katsuyu, although against beings like kurama the amaterasu user will probably die before the beast succomes to the flames.

Most kage levels have ways to prevent amaterasu gg.
Minato might be faster than the raikage with ftg but Raikage dodged just by running in circles. If Minato were to teleport in circles he would dodge it but without being aware of it's activation Minato will get set on fire. I'm aware he has sensing abilties but Ama can be held and fired at will faster than a sensor can react.

SM Naruto isn't making clones faster than amaterasu can be spawned. He would have to make handsigns and build up chakra for the clones and then make a wall before it's being spawned. That's preposterous

I agree with most kages having a way to prevent amaterasu from killing them off excluding mei, tsunade (lesser kages)
 

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Add senjutsu chakra to amaterasu and it will have the same effect. Being bias isn't too hard it seems.
Senjutsu isn't jubi jins weakness. It's just the only way to hit them. If the attack isn't strong enough, senjutsu or not, it won't even phase them just like amaterasu won't phase them senjutsu or not
 

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So it can only be countered by extreme speed or chakra absorption techniques...It basically only works against what we would consider fodder now.. so the jutsu is pretty useless unless the user wants to waste amaterasu against a piece of sh!t shinobi
 

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Bull $hit to the max. Experience.. Great excuse, brilliant :rolleyes:. So basically you have no real reason, you just decided to leave tobirama off and put minato on -___-, despite the one yo left off being slower than the other, my goodness.

You act like Minato hasn't faced uchiha before, he ruled over them and defeated one of the most powerful uchihas of all time (stronger than izuna). Yet somehow minato can't evade a technique that Ay was able to excape, despite being slower than Minato and cee stating that both have comparable reactions???

Pls give me a proper reason other than that rubbish. And yes the flames were touching minato, the jutsu was active and in full effect, don't make excuses. So what if sasuke held the blade, it's his jutsu, it shouldnt hurt the user. Same way Mei's lava didn't burn her skin or fingers when she wiped it off her mouth.
okay whatever bro Tobirama gets defeated as well despite fighting Madara and Izuna his whole life :rolleyes: Despite being a better sensor than Minato too. Honestly who cares about tobirama, if I put him on will you stop crying about it lol? He does get one shotted without seals but I didn't name every single person who gets killed by it. Why didn't Naruto rasenshurikens hurt Minato either? Comon now, that technique never harmed Minato in the 1st place.
 

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Senjutsu isn't jubi jins weakness. It's just the only way to hit them. If the attack isn't strong enough, senjutsu or not, it won't even phase them just like amaterasu won't phase them senjutsu or not
Except that without being able to negate the attack with onmyoudon or gudoudamas, Amaterasu will burn through the flesh and spread rapidly.

A simple raiton sword could completely bisect a JJMadara. Amaterasu has been shown to have a much higher rate of penetration and cutting capacity.
 

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Minato might be faster than the raikage with ftg but Raikage dodged just by running in circles. If Minato were to teleport in circles he would dodge it but without being aware of it's activation Minato will get set on fire. I'm aware he has sensing abilties but Ama can be held and fired at will faster than a sensor can react.
Raikage did a single shunshin that took him out of Sasuke's LoS. All minato has to do is teleport out of the user's LoS.

SM Naruto isn't making clones faster than amaterasu can be spawned. He would have to make handsigns and build up chakra for the clones and then make a wall before it's being spawned. That's preposterous
with SM sensing, the fact that amaterasu only comes out after the blood travels a bit down the eye, and naruto's shown ability to make clones in shorter timeframs, Naruto easily makes a clone wall before amaterasu spawns.
 

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PART 1 :​
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^^ The First time we saw Amaterasu being used again in Naruto part 2 was from Itachi who used it against Sasuke Fire ball which was overpowering his own fireball.

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^^ As Black Zetsu explains here. The FOCUS of the eye is crucial aspect here. There was never stated how fast black flames burn through obstacle, it was only stated that they will continue to burn until their target is completly eridicated.

Itachi was not just spawning Amaterasu... he was following Sasuke to keep his eye focused on target...

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^^ Against Killer bee who took upon form of Gyuuki Sasuke only spawn Amaterasu then due to pain and exhaustion reverted his eyes back to normal. Upon Karin being caught by Black Flames Sasuke activated MS again to put out black flames from Karin. As you can see in lastest scan the black flames burnt already through Karin clothes and at any moment would begin burn her skin.

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^^ Fake Killer body was also intact and almost unharmed when Sasuke put out the black flames which proves that without constant focus of eye at target the burning rate is not impressive.

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^^ Against Fourth Raikage , Sasuke just spawn Black flames Amaterasu then when He noticed that Raikage avoided it Sasuke instantly move his eyes away from keep eyes focus on him instead he instatly turned his head around.

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^^ Just take a look at black flames decreasing in size the moment Sasuke covered his eye with hand.

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^^ The Samurai armor was still on fire, even atlhough the burning rate should be really slow there was no focus.

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^^ Also it was Raikage's foolishness of disactivating Lightining shroud allowing Black flames to come in contact with his skin. Temari using wind blowing would easily takes it out of him. The black flames burning rate was such low that Raikage didn't even feel Pain.

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^^ As proven by this scan Amaterasu itself is useless against Gaara's sand which can carry itself with fire on away and fall down. Sasuke also stated he was forced to use Inferno style which could keep Gaara's sand at bay.

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^^ As proven against Danzo. If Sasuke could keep his focus on the target and the chakra amount was enough then the burning rate was very high so Danzo could only escape via Izanagi.

PART 2 :​
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^^ Itachi also casted Amaterasu on dog summon of Rinnegan then turned back to Nagato, also just spawning Amaterasu at him but with no constant focus as he took off to Naruto

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^^ Here Sasuke spawn Amaterasu spining around to separate him and Itachi from Kabuto. Kabuto didn't dare to step in or try go in until he used ground to make way for himself to go in.

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^^ While focusing their eyes on target Sasuke and Itachi could burn through Kidomaru's web in mere seconds, which is known for great durability.

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^^ It seems it isn't just focus of eye but also amount of chakra build up for spawning Amaterasu which shows how strong burning rate is, of course it doesn't work on Onmyoudon.

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^^ Sasuke was low at the chakra at this point, so that why his chakra amount build up was low and yet he understimated Madara by no focsuing eye at Madara, so Madara had time took off his armor. Besides Hashirama mentioned something about absorbing Jutsu.. so it is unclear anyway.

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^^ Here Sasuke spawned Amaterasu and adding Inferno style to make flames solid he made him and Naruto get out of being frozen by ice dimenssion.

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^^ Kaguya was worried about Sasuke having Amaterasu which proves it can be dangerous and deadly jutsu.

AND FINALLY TO THE LASTEST CHAPTER DOWNRATING AMATERASU:

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^^ Here we see Sasuke spawning Amaterasu at Naruto, but Naruto is protected by chakra cloak. Of course if Sasuke focused his eye on then Amaterasu would fight to burn through cloak while Naruto would try to extend it moving it out of his body. However Sasuke was too low on chakra so Amaterasu could not do anything.

CONCLUSION :​
  • Amaterasu burning rate depends on the amount of chakra build up to cast Amaterasu and if the focus is kept on the target or not.
  • Even If Sasuke had more chakra and would slowly burn through chakra cloak then extending chakra cloak Naruto would get rid of flames by using Tailed beast roar.
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okay whatever bro Tobirama gets defeated as well despite fighting Madara and Izuna his whole life :rolleyes: Despite being a better sensor than Minato too. Honestly who cares about tobirama, if I put him on will you stop crying about it lol? He does get one shotted without seals but I didn't name every single person who gets killed by it. Why didn't Naruto rasenshurikens hurt Minato either? Comon now, that technique never harmed Minato in the 1st place.
You really aren't serious. Unless madara or izuna use amatersu, its completely irrelevant how long tobirama fought them, we're talking about who can counter amatersau, not who has fought uchiha the longest.

It's like you can't even read, why would i want you to add tobirama when I already said he evades the jutsu via ftg. The point is that amatersasu burns slowly and ftg users can teleport out of confinment or jutsu touching them, which is what minato did. He teleported out of a jutsu that had already hit him, so it doesn't matter if he gets caught, ftg negates the jutsu.

Spce time jutsu has already proven to counter jutsu that has already made contact. Minato did it and kakashi did it. Kakashi got hit by a sage art rasengan yet recieved not damage because he used space time jutsu to warp it away. It's no different to Minato teleporting out of the black flamed rasenshuriken unharmed.
 

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PART 1 :​
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^^ The First time we saw Amaterasu being used again in Naruto part 2 was from Itachi who used it against Sasuke Fire ball which was overpowering his own fireball.

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^^ As Black Zetsu explains here. The FOCUS of the eye is crucial aspect here. There was never stated how fast black flames burn through obstacle, it was only stated that they will continue to burn until their target is completly eridicated.

Itachi was not just spawning Amaterasu... he was following Sasuke to keep his eye focused on target...

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^^ Against Killer bee who took upon form of Gyuuki Sasuke only spawn Amaterasu then due to pain and exhaustion reverted his eyes back to normal. Upon Karin being caught by Black Flames Sasuke activated MS again to put out black flames from Karin. As you can see in lastest scan the black flames burnt already through Karin clothes and at any moment would begin burn her skin.

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^^ Fake Killer body was also intact and almost unharmed when Sasuke put out the black flames which proves that without constant focus of eye at target the burning rate is not impressive.

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^^ Against Fourth Raikage , Sasuke just spawn Black flames Amaterasu then when He noticed that Raikage avoided it Sasuke instantly move his eyes away from keep eyes focus on him instead he instatly turned his head around.

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^^ Just take a look at black flames decreasing in size the moment Sasuke covered his eye with hand.

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^^ The Samurai armor was still on fire, even atlhough the burning rate should be really slow there was no focus.

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^^ Also it was Raikage's foolishness of disactivating Lightining shroud allowing Black flames to come in contact with his skin. Temari using wind blowing would easily takes it out of him. The black flames burning rate was such low that Raikage didn't even feel Pain.

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^^ As proven by this scan Amaterasu itself is useless against Gaara's sand which can carry itself with fire on away and fall down. Sasuke also stated he was forced to use Inferno style which could keep Gaara's sand at bay.

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^^ As proven against Danzo. If Sasuke could keep his focus on the target and the chakra amount was enough then the burning rate was very high so Danzo could only escape via Izanagi.

PART 2 :​
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^^ Itachi also casted Amaterasu on dog summon of Rinnegan then turned back to Nagato, also just spawning Amaterasu at him but with no constant focus as he took off to Naruto

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^^ Here Sasuke spawn Amaterasu spining around to separate him and Itachi from Kabuto. Kabuto didn't dare to step in or try go in until he used ground to make way for himself to go in.

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^^ While focusing their eyes on target Sasuke and Itachi could burn through Kidomaru's web in mere seconds, which is known for great durability.

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^^ It seems it isn't just focus of eye but also amount of chakra build up for spawning Amaterasu which shows how strong burning rate is, of course it doesn't work on Onmyoudon.

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^^ Sasuke was low at the chakra at this point, so that why his chakra amount build up was low and yet he understimated Madara by no focsuing eye at Madara, so Madara had time took off his armor. Besides Hashirama mentioned something about absorbing Jutsu.. so it is unclear anyway.

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^^ Here Sasuke spawned Amaterasu and adding Inferno style to make flames solid he made him and Naruto get out of being frozen by ice dimenssion.

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^^ Kaguya was worried about Sasuke having Amaterasu which proves it can be dangerous and deadly jutsu.

AND FINALLY TO THE LASTEST CHAPTER DOWNRATING AMATERASU:

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^^ Here we see Sasuke spawning Amaterasu at Naruto, but Naruto is protected by chakra cloak. Of course if Sasuke focused his eye on then Amaterasu would fight to burn through cloak while Naruto would try to extend it moving it out of his body. However Sasuke was too low on chakra so Amaterasu could not do anything.

CONCLUSION :​
  • Amaterasu burning rate depends on the amount of chakra build up to cast Amaterasu and if the focus is kept on the target or not.
  • Even If Sasuke had more chakra and would slowly burn through chakra cloak then extending chakra cloak Naruto would get rid of flames by using Tailed beast roar.
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Great analysis. I noticed in this chapter Sasukes amaterasu burned the remainder of Kuramas chakra (the one he was storin).
Raikage did a single shunshin that took him out of Sasuke's LoS. All minato has to do is teleport out of the user's LoS.


with SM sensing, the fact that amaterasu only comes out after the blood travels a bit down the eye, and naruto's shown ability to make clones in shorter timeframs, Naruto easily makes a clone wall before amaterasu spawns.

That's ridiculous. Did you already forget Naruto almost got burned by ama before he can do anything. Kurama was the one who put up a wall. Narutos handsign speed and reactions is great but to do all this before amaterasu is spawned is simply far-fetched in my eyes. The only who can be fast enough to do this is Itachi because of his hyped handseal speed but even then it seems unlikely.
 

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People call Amaterasu fooder because it received so much Hype from Itachi and Ms Sasuke
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But then almost every enemy sasuke used it on countered it
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oh and jiraiya's shits on amaterasu as well by using hair instead of chakra as a shield and then shedding the hair away

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quick someone make a base jiraiya vs itachi thread, guaranteed better entertainment than dumbtee's thread
 

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That's ridiculous. Did you already forget Naruto almost got burned by ama before he can do anything. Kurama was the one who put up a wall. Narutos handsign speed and reactions is great but to do all this before amaterasu is spawned is simply far-fetched in my eyes. The only who can be fast enough to do this is Itachi because of his hyped handseal speed but even then it seems unlikely.
yeah, a base naruto who has almost zero chakra almost got burned by amaterasu fired from the sharinngan. What does that have to do with SM Naruto being able to do it or not?

you don't need handseals on par with itachi if you can sense amaterasu before the eyes even begin to bleed like nagato did and when he's using a jutsu that only requires a single handseal.
 
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You really aren't serious. Unless madara or izuna use amatersu, its completely irrelevant how long tobirama fought them, we're talking about who can counter amatersau, not who has fought uchiha the longest.

It's like you can't even read, why would i want you to add tobirama when I already said he evades the jutsu via ftg. The point is that amatersasu burns slowly and ftg users can teleport out of confinment or jutsu touching them, which is what minato did. He teleported out of a jutsu that had already hit him, so it doesn't matter if he gets caught, ftg negates the jutsu.

Spce time jutsu has already proven to counter jutsu that has already made contact. Minato did it and kakashi did it. Kakashi got hit by a sage art rasengan yet recieved not damage because he used space time jutsu to warp it away. It's no different to Minato teleporting out of the black flamed rasenshuriken unharmed.
I didn't add Tobirama because I was under the impression Madara and Izuna had it. Ofc Madara knows about it so Tobirama would definetly know. no bro you can't read because I already told you I didn't add every single person who can or can't dodge it. Obviously I don't think ftg means anything because Minato was never fully hit by rasenamaterasiken nor did it explode. Naruto and Sasuke didn't release their moves, if they did he would have been more impacted like Obito was. Ftg doesn't stop you from getting hit or stop a technique from releasing. Imo Naruto and Sasuke never released the tech against Minato thats why he was unharmed. Sasuke kept control of his flames and Naruto kept control of his wind style.
 
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I didn't add Tobirama because I was under the impression Madara and Izuna had it. Ofc Madara knows about it so Tobirama would definetly know. no bro you can't read because I already told you I didn't add every single person who can or can't dodge it. Obviously I don't think ftg means anything because Minato was never fully hit by rasenamaterasiken nor did it explode. Naruto and Sasuke didn't release their moves, if they did he would have been more impacted like Obito was. Ftg doesn't stop you from getting hit or stop a technique from releasing. Imo Naruto and Sasuke never released the tech against OBito. Sasuke kept control of his flames and Naruto kept control of his wind style.
Madara and Izuna don't have Amaterasu -_- don't bring your featless fanfiction here. Go getm feats or move on. Show me tobiramas intel on amatersu or gtfo.

Yeah, you didn't add every person, but somehow minato was at the very top of your list, fact is you particularly wanted to put him there. And you have no real reason as to why tobirama shouldn't be there if minato is, so you're making up BS.

Since when does Amatersau explode in order to do damage? Since when do the flames not immediately burn whatever it touches (except the user). Aagin you are just avoiding the facts, the flames are touching minato, I CAN SEE IT. Yet you're making up some fan fiction that they didn't release their jutsu hence it had no effect on minato. So what you're saying is that anybody couldve run infront of naruto and sasuke and wouldve been perfectly fine.

I'm still waiting for a real point from you with evidence. Like how you didn't address kakashi doing the same thing.
 

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Madara and Izuna don't have Amaterasu -_- don't bring your featless fanfiction here. Go getm feats or move on. Show me tobiramas intel on amatersu or gtfo.

Yeah, you didn't add every person, but somehow minato was at the very top of your list, fact is you particularly wanted to put him there. And you have no real reason as to why tobirama shouldn't be there if minato is, so you're making up BS.

Since when does Amatersau explode in order to do damage? Since when do the flames not immediately burn whatever it touches (except the user). Aagin you are just avoiding the facts, the flames are touching minato, I CAN SEE IT. Yet you're making up some fan fiction that they didn't release their jutsu hence it had no effect on minato. So what you're saying is that anybody couldve run infront of naruto and sasuke and wouldve been perfectly fine.

I'm still waiting for a real point from you with evidence.
I already pointed the number 1 fact of Sasuke being able to control Enton and put out flames on will Fact or fiction?
I already pointed out Minato was unharmed by enton flames but also unharmed by rasengan.fact or fiction? So it's more likely the technique was never released
I already pointed out Madara knows about Amaterasu Fact of fiction?and Tobirama was the smartest of the era and fought Uchiha his whole life Fact of fiction?
You are just bothered you're a Minato fan and I didn't bother putting Tobirama on the the list fact or fiction?

yeah, a base naruto who has almost zero chakra almost got burned by amaterasu fired from the sharinngan. What does that have to do with SM Naruto being able to do it or not?

you don't need handseals on par with itachi if you can sense amaterasu before the eyes even begin to bleed like nagato did and when he's using a jutsu that only requires a single handseal.
At the same time, the time it takes to spawn clones and have them make a wall over you is slower than Amaterasu. The bleeding of eyes and amas build up is around the same time
 
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Only Sasuke haters would say that Amaterasu is a weak technique. IT one shots everyone outside of the top ten.
 
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