The 2nd Tsuchikage; Muu isnt as invisible as we thought

[Blaze Release]

Ive always wanted to destroy this myth about muu's invisibility and now ive decided to demonstrate that he is far from invisible. Ive come across countless vs threads which includes muu and in most cases folks basically say he'd turn invisible, snick up on the opponent and disintegrate his opponents such as jiraiya, itachi, sasuke, minato using dust release.

As ive always said two top tier opponents have as much chance of winning a battle as the other and muu is no different. But him relying on such a technique which is far from invisible isnt doing him any good. I will like to say this isnt a vs thread btw.

Anyway allow me to demonstrate what i mean by muu is far from invisible. Firstly ive no doubt in my mind that the technique muu uses is the same as the one that Taiseki used in kakashi gaiden. The technique is called; Meisaigakure no Jutsu or Hiding with Camouflage Technique, in english(

You must be registered for see links

). In muu's case he completely wipes his 'form/chakra', nevertheless its the same technique).

As i said taiseki used this technique in kakashi gaiden. In the link below youd see how he uses it to capture ren;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

He uses it to fight obito and kakashi, notice what kakashi says;

You must be registered for see images

In this link, look at the bottom left hand side. This is Taiseki thinking whislt using the technique, notice his footsteps;

You must be registered for see images

As kakashi said in the previous link above, "his scent has been completely removed", a similar thing was said about Mu and his technique.
Obito with the sharigan was able to see him even after what kakashi said and killed him with a kunai

You must be registered for see images

Some people would still deny that this is the same technique. I believe it is not because both muu and taiseki are from the same village but because it does the exact the thing. The similarities between these two techniques are undeniable.

Anyway in the link below youd see muu using this techniqu;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

As you can see, he clearly isnt as invisible as we thought. Depending on the location he can easily leave foot prints therefore this technique isnt all that great. If the location is hard to for muu to leave footprints, you can turn the location against him and use an earth technique that turns either the whole battlefield or the area around you into mud. Example being the swarp of the underworld technique

Now pein's summoning has a very similar technique;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Jiraiya countered it by putting up a barrier;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Notice what animal realm says about the barrier;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

.

Now ive showed you that not only is this technique not as invisible as we thought (user leaves foot prints) it also be countered with a doujutsu (including the byagugan and rennigan) or by putting up a barrier.

Ill now show you otherwise that you can counter this technique. As i said this technique is very similar to the one peins summoning used and Ma frog was easily able to counter it;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

If you can see is footprints in the links above ^, you can give him a form. Basically be might be invisible but he will be visible;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Konan have demonstrated this. By following the user of this technique footsteps she can give them form but covering them up with paper. Other ways to give users of this technique a form is to use an earth technique on them directly, example being spitting mud where the footsteps go, therefore you'd be able to recognise them due to them having mud on them, (I cannot remember the name of the technique).

Now sm naruto and km naruto has shown incredible feats, in sensing chakra. We can debate whether he would be able to sense Muu or not. I personally believe he can. Anyway these are naruto's sensing feats;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Naruto sensing kisame's 'malice'. Now obviously only naruto has this ability and obviously in a fight against muu for example, he would easily sense him because muu would have malice thoughts. Examples being killing naruto.

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

What im trying to say is that in naruto there is no such thing as invincible, immortal, invisible (in this case muu) and finally a technique with no risk/technique with no weakness. Afterall the 2nd mizukage was able to come up with a counter if he killed muu. Both of them died though

 

[Deadai]

interesting thread is interesting goodjob

 

[-S-]

interesting mate +rep

 

[jlfs1195]

nice thread man... agree on 98% of it

 

[H1dd3nD3m0n]

just interesting

 

[PandaMan.]

Nice research

 

[lanakau888]

2 things:

1) Muu was known for being the man without chakra. There is no way a nameless shinobi has the same technique that made muu is known for. He doesn't have chakra, and sharingan sees the invisible by giving color to chakra, meaning sharingan won't work. Byakugan sees the chakra network which won't work since his chakra is invisible and impossible to sense.

2) Except for the barrier, many of the techniques you've listed locate muu by muu stepping on something. Muu has been shown to go invisible while flying, meaning those means would be useless.

but to add to your points here is a scan of gaara locating in-battle.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

 

[pensilol]

I think Muu use this jutsu better then Teineki also he can fly to avoid footprints.

 

[Blaze Release]

2 things:

He doesn't have chakra, and sharingan sees the invisible by giving color to chakra, meaning sharingan won't work. Byakugan sees the chakra network which won't work since his chakra is invisible and impossible to sense.

2) Except for the barrier, many of the techniques you've listed locate muu by muu stepping on something. Muu has been shown to go invisible while flying, meaning those means would be useless.

Muu has chakra, but as he said he 'completely' erases it. I do agree that he can fly, but this thread is focusing completely on his invisibility technique

I think Muu use this jutsu better then Teineki also he can fly to avoid footprints.

I do acknowledge that he can fly, but im trying to show that he isnt as invisible as we thought

 

[Blaze Release]

Ive looked for that page where gaara somehow senses him, but couldnt find it so forgot about it

 

[-Vegeta-]

2 things:

1) Muu was known for being the man without chakra. There is no way a nameless shinobi has the same technique that made muu is known for. He doesn't have chakra, and sharingan sees the invisible by giving color to chakra, meaning sharingan won't work. Byakugan sees the chakra network which won't work since his chakra is invisible and impossible to sense.

2) Except for the barrier, many of the techniques you've listed locate muu by muu stepping on something. Muu has been shown to go invisible while flying, meaning those means would be useless.

but to add to your points here is a scan of gaara locating in-battle.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

This.

 

[AMfree]

excellent thread:izuna:

 

[Noble Armada]

I think that is just a moniker; he's not actually invisible, per se, he just has the ability to camouflage himself and suppress his chakra to a point where he has no presence of any kind, not just physically invisible.

 

[Blaze Release]

Nice research

excellent thread:izuna:

Thanks, forgot to say

 

[blazekev90]

good shyt, idk how I didnt notice this post. REP+ (he's still BADASS tho)

 

[TOADvsSNAKE]

very interesting and compelling argument as always blaze but while it's true that the iwa-nin
may have used the same technique it would be foolish to assume that he can use it to the same level as muu but i'll +rep you anyway

Edit: can't give you rep have to spread it around first 8(

 

[Sasori of the six paths]

Well true some of those are true but the things like the barrier and ma's tongue are tough for ordinary shinobi to do on the spot, normally a barrier like that needs multiple shinobi but he is obviously above average, so id say it still stands that he is pretty good at being invisible. And if ur trying to prove something about someone not being as good as people think u have to focus on everthing they have going for them (flying), or itd be like saying naruto is weak...the nine tails power doesnt count but, good research on the topic, always thought his jutsu was unique to him

 

[fastrthnwind]

This is, yet, another very good thread Blaze Release. Well done.

And also, doesn't the flying technique use chakra? So technically he won't be completely invisible while using his flying technique as people would be able to sense his chakra.

 

[warlee]

How can a nameless fodder have the same tech as muu and he isn't called non person for nothing. Sharingan can see that fodder's meaning his chakra is present even sensor don't locate muu.