That chidori amaterasu! Just lovely!

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With smaller Chakra reserves? It is still an assumption. Given that the techs were made in a nearly exhausted state and Chidori can be made more or less potent depending upon reserves. Rasangan is an incomplete tech to begin with. It's nothing but pure chakra rotating on the hand. The explosion shouldn't have taken their arms out. It would also be silly to ignore Enton; the only ingredient added to the explosion for the first time.

Since both explode upon impact, it isn't erroneous to assume that Enton would change the explosion; a third ingredient that produces immense heat would make it more potent. Otherwise, both Rasangan and Chidori always stalemate. Nothing overpowers the other.



Neither Rasangan nor Chidori is an exploding tech. At best, they cause certain amount of destruction to the environment, but none of them explode upon impact like TBB. But, when both of them meet, they produce an explosion. You asking me this explosion quality is absurd to begin given how the base techs function. Enton also produces heat; an important factor in explosions.

The rest of your question is mind-boggling. Maybe you should hit google and find out about detonation velocity.

Please stop using science to back your conjectue because this a manga, stuff like that don't apply all the time. You're elduding to what I asked. I didn't ask you to explain stuff to me I already know, I asked you
1. What role did Enton play in them losing their arms?

2. How come Enton didn't eat through Rasengan?

3. How did Enton makes Sasukes explosion stronger? And adding to that, how is that even possible when Enton is supposedly inextinguishable
 

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I am really not interested in explaining anything to you or reading through your jibber-jabber. Given that if basic science can be used, it can be applied as well.
 

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With smaller Chakra reserves? It is still an assumption. Given that the techs were made in a nearly exhausted state and Chidori can be made more or less potent depending upon reserves. Rasangan is an incomplete tech to begin with. It's nothing but pure chakra rotating on the hand. The explosion shouldn't have taken their arms out. It would also be silly to ignore Enton; the only ingredient added to the explosion for the first time.

Since both explode upon impact, it isn't erroneous to assume that Enton would change the explosion; a third ingredient that produces immense heat would make it more potent. Otherwise, both Rasangan and Chidori always stalemate. Nothing overpowers the other.



Neither Rasangan nor Chidori is an exploding tech. At best, they cause certain amount of destruction to the environment, but none of them explode upon impact like TBB. But, when both of them meet, they produce an explosion. You asking me this explosion quality is absurd to begin given how the base techs function. Enton also produces heat; an important factor in explosions.

The rest of your question is mind-boggling. Maybe you should hit google and find out about detonation velocity.
Exhausted or not both techs were powered by Kurama's chakra. They both put the last of theirs and Kurama's chakra into that attack.
Incase you've forgotten here's the result of their last chidori-rasengan clash. They were equally exhausted and were at their limits here as well.
Considering how much their power has increased since then, it makes perfect sense that their next clash will produce the results it did
 

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Naruto didn't turn to stone because the NE he absorbed was instantly being absorbed by Pain and I am fairly certain I said Pain absorbed too much NE and turned to stone because contrary to your belief, chakra absorbed by PP retains it's basic properties and characteristics.

???
You stated

That Pain absorbed too much NE

Then

That if the chakra that is being absorbed is instantly converted then he should not have turned to stone

That latter of your statement baffles me for the simple fact that it does nothing but prove my point. I see what your getting at but if not for the other 3 scans you posted you would be right. Not only that if it did retain the same properties, then Pain should have had markings around his eyes

If what you were saying was true then both times when Nagato absorbed that chakra from Bee and Naruto, he would have had the cloak around himself as well.
 

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It wasn't a normal Rasengan.

It was a Vermillion Rasengan, because it was created using Yin Kurama's potent chakra, and not Naruto's normal chakra.
 

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I am really not interested in explaining anything to you or reading through your jibber-jabber. Given that if basic science can be used, it can be applied as well.

And obviously once again you have no argument, don't even know why I wasted my time. You're the one parading around the based exahliting Enton as a godly jutsu. You're the one claiming Enton instantly eats through chakra. I don't know why I waste my time because everything you post is fanboyish anyway
 

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I am really not interested in explaining anything to you or reading through your jibber-jabber. Given that if basic science can be used, it can be applied as well.

To add to the stupidity of your latter sentence

- I guess Itachi can activate chakra faster than lightning

- I guess Tsunade can survive being bisected scientifically makes sense.

- I guess Kurama impailing Minato with the wound that he did and Minato surviving as long he did scientifically makes sense as well
 

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???
You stated

That Pain absorbed too much NE

Then

That if the chakra that is being absorbed is instantly converted then he should not have turned to stone

That latter of your statement baffles me for the simple fact that it does nothing but prove my point. I see what your getting at but if not for the other 3 scans you posted you would be right. Not only that if it did retain the same properties, then Pain should have had markings around his eyes

If what you were saying was true then both times when Nagato absorbed that chakra from Bee and Naruto, he would have had the cloak around himself as well.

The cloak around Naruto and Bee are just techniques. Having bijuu chakra doesn't automatically give you a cloak. You have to manifest it consciously
 

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The cloak around Naruto and Bee are just techniques. Having bijuu chakra doesn't automatically give you a cloak. You have to manifest it consciously

That's incorrect

As no one was aware of them receiving the cloak from Naruto yet they still had Kuramas chakra. There's is nothing that suggest you need a bijuu to obtain a bijuu cloak. And they are not techniques, they are chakra
 

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Exhausted or not both techs were powered by Kurama's chakra. They both put the last of theirs and Kurama's chakra into that attack.
Incase you've forgotten here's the result of their last chidori-rasengan clash. They were equally exhausted and were at their limits here as well.
Considering how much their power has increased since then, it makes perfect sense that their next clash will produce the results it did

Not Sasuke. I don't really believe that any Bijuu chakra retains its quality once absorbed via PP.

@ComplexCity

I love your stupidity. You were mowed down by just about everyone in that "Amaterasu Chakra Eating thread" you yourself created, and you ran from it with a laughable 'we cannot agree' concession. Despise repeated refusals, you still claim that I stated that "Amaterasu eats Chakra instantly", when I have made no such claims to this day. When Amaterasu cannot accomplish it, an Enton doing it instantly is far-fetched non-sense.

My post made everything crystal clear. Either you buy it or you don't. It doesn't concern me either way, given your poor grasp of comprehension and yarn-building. Do us both a favour and stop being such a sub-standard prick.

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Not Sasuke. I don't really believe that any Bijuu chakra retains its quality once absorbed via PP.

@ComplexCity

I love your stupidity. You were mowed down by just about everyone in that "Amaterasu Chakra Eating thread" you yourself created, and you ran from it that 'we cannot agree' concession. Despise repeated refusals, you still claim that I stated that "Amaterasu eats Chakra instantly", when I have made no such claims to this day. When Amaterasu cannot accomplish it, an Enton doing it instantly is far-fetched non-sense.

My post made everything crystal clear. Either you buy it or you don't. It doesn't concern me either way, given your poor grasp of comprehension and yarn-building. Do us both a favour and stop being such a sub-standard prick.

Do you suffer from Amnesia? There was like 5 ppl telling you that it doesn't. If you want me to waste my time and quote where you said it, I'll be gladly to do so. Enton is literally the same thing as Amateratsu just manipulated. I stopped debating because your retarded and I'm not wasting my time debating with ppl who twist the manga or cannot understand anything basic.

I asked you a simple question and you can't respond, as usual.

How was Sasukes explosion stronger?

And

How was Enton extinguished?

The point is they stalemated. Nothing in the manga suggest Sasukes explosion overpowered Naruto's. If his tech was indeed stronger, then Sasuke should have overpowered Naruto and won
 
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lol you guys argue on anything

OT. yes it was cool. whats funny is i had the same idea in my head about enton and chidori mixing and it became fact. anyways those tards saying regular rasengan matched it clearly didnt read the manga properly.
 

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Do you suffer from Amnesia? There was like 5 ppl telling you that it doesn't. If you want me to waste my time and quote where you said it, I'll be gladly to do so. Enton is literally the same thing as Amateratsu just manipulated. I stopped debating because your retarded and I'm not wasting my time debating with ppl who twist the manga or cannot understand anything basic.

Clearly.





Ok agree to disagree since neither of us have proof

Since you asked nicely.
 

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Clearly.







Since you asked nicely.

Damn you dumb
What part of me ran? Look back to where you stated NE can be burned. Where did you prove it? Funny thing is you dipped and I wasn't debating with you, ironically I ran :lmao:

If you're so bent that Amaterasu can sap NE make a thread about and watch how dumb ppl will make you look

Are you gonna answer my question?
 

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yeah that really bummed me out Sasuke did his epic combination of two jutsu and Naruto did a normal rasengan. Naruto could have at least done rasenshuriken but that's just me
 

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At that point in the series, Naruto and Sasuke are each perfect at Chakra control... Sasuke can adjust Chakra levels automatically with this Sharingan, and Naruto has a "natural" sense of Chakra control after being synced with a Bijuu and controlling limbs made of raw Chakra.
 

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Just cause Kurama gave Naruto the rest of his chakra doesn't mean it was a vermillion rasengan.. Even at VOTE 1, it seemed like a regular rasengan inside the red cloak, possibly more concentrated or something I guess since the cloak forms the shell instead of a clone.

When Naruto's clones did this
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Wasn't he given chakra from Kurama for the tech?

It should be assumed it's a base rasengan until we see otherwise. Maybe in the anime or a official colour chapter or something?



Even in theory, how could the enton even help sasuke win the clash (without shape manipulation)? The techs stalemate every time. The enton just contributed to both their arms being incinerated.


OT: It was sick. I was disappointed that Naruto didn't use a FRS or something
 

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Pretty sure it was the Orange Rasengan
 

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Just cause Kurama gave Naruto the rest of his chakra doesn't mean it was a vermillion rasengan.. Even at VOTE 1, it seemed like a regular rasengan inside the red cloak, possibly more concentrated or something I guess since the cloak forms the shell instead of a clone.

When Naruto's clones did this
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Wasn't he given chakra from Kurama for the tech?

It should be assumed it's a base rasengan until we see otherwise. Maybe in the anime or a official colour chapter or something?



Even in theory, how could the enton even help sasuke win the clash (without shape manipulation)? The techs stalemate every time. The enton just contributed to both their arms being incinerated.


OT: It was sick. I was disappointed that Naruto didn't use a FRS or something

Naruto didn't want to kill
 

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Naruto didn't want to kill

I know, which makes me wonder why people think Naruto wouldn't have won going all out but that's for another day.
If fire > wind > lightning then FRS probably still would have stalemated
 
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