That chidori amaterasu! Just lovely!

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You made it sound like them bijuus are fully charged. They been ****-ed by Obito, Madara, and Kaguya. They're exhausted too

Can't see how they were that exhausted considering the amount of power he attained from them and Kurama saying he was reminiscent of the Sage in terms of battle strength. At that point Naruto was utilizing his six path mode drawing power from Kurama only, Sasuke was drawing power from all TB. Still in the end, Naruto stalemated his ultimate attack with senjutsu alone.

Let's not do that Lol.
 

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They got an entire replenish from Hagoromo, nothing before that matters, though I would argue they used proportionally the same amount of chakra.
Sasuke has a smaller pool to begin with, and was arguably more instrumental against Madara, and used alot of chakra shifting multiple times. He absorbed a finite amount of chakra from the beasts z and not all of their chakra. Naruto, having about 25% more chakra, reasonably. He has a beast, constantly generating his own chakra, and gathering Natural Chakra. Neither one of them had enough of a stamina advantage to throw in the others faces, and I wish people would quit trying to downplay A Rinnegan ability as cheating, when is you take the bijuu away, and unnerf Sasuke's Rinnegan, he can absorb almost all of Naruto's jutsu.


They're equal, get over it.

I'm stating how things work, to create this "equal" characters are nerfed to fit their counterpart.
They clearly weren't equal, only the end result was equal.
One arm Sasuke = Naruto, Sasuke nerfed to match with a rusty Naruto.
Also don't feel like reading your wall, what I stated cannot even be denied.
I also wasn't even downplaying Rinnegan, I literally said what it did and added nothing else.
If you view that as downplaying, that's your own personal problem.

Chakra isn't replenished in percentages, it's accumulated, meaning there could
be an amount of chakra more than said person would naturally carry.

And again like I said, this happened 200+ chapters after Naruto claimed he ran out
of chakra vs Madara, and 2/3 days of war.
Naruto's chakra itself is a huge factor, due to the amount of chakra he has,
which ignoring Kurama was said to be above Kakashi's, and was enough for
him to take on 50% Kurama and win it solo, aside from the chakra suction/willpower battle.

You're also justifying that Naruto used up a ton of chakra under the excuse
of Sasuke having a smaller pool? Lol wtf, it clearly shows that if Naruto &
Sasuke had their full reserves in that battle Naruto would win. But of course
it's fair because Sasuke has smaller reserves?
That only proves you saw it as needed, or that Naruto trumped him in that
aspect for an advantage.

lmao unnerfed rinnegan, sure it's nerfed because he wasn't skilled with it at
the time. /sarcasm, I guess you expect him to use all 6 paths upon moments
of obtaining rinnegan.

Neither one of them had enough of a stamina advantage to throw in the others faces
Gee I wonder why, maybe because one went through days of war,
and the other 1 night, and a morning?
 
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I'm stating how things work, to create this "equal" characters are nerfed to fit their counterpart.
They clearly weren't equal, only the end result was equal.
One arm Sasuke = Naruto, Sasuke nerfed to match with a rusty Naruto.
Also don't feel like reading your wall, what I stated cannot even be denied.
I also wasn't even downplaying Rinnegan, I literally said what it did and added nothing else.
If you view that as downplaying, that's your own personal problem.

Chakra isn't replenished in percentages, it's accumulated, meaning there could
be an amount of chakra more than said person would naturally carry.

And again like I said, this happened 200+ chapters after Naruto claimed he ran out
of chakra vs Madara, and 2/3 days of war.
Naruto's chakra itself is a huge factor, due to the amount of chakra he has,
which ignoring Kurama was said to be above Kakashi's, and was enough for
him to take on 50% Kurama and win it solo, aside from the chakra suction battle.

You're also justifying that Naruto used up a ton of chakra under the excuse
of Sasuke having a smaller pool? Lol wtf, it clearly shows that if Naruto &
Sasuke had their full reserves in that battle Naruto would win. But of course
it's fair because Sasuke has smaller reserves?
That only proves you saw it as needed, or that Naruto trumped him in that
aspect for an advantage.

Preach lol i like that 1 arm sasuke = rusty naruto part. Even still having one arm isnt a nerf or handicap lol sasuke has being used to one arm longer than 2 arms lol. Thats like saying sasuke vs killer bee was a nerf cuz killer bee had 8 swords and sasuke only had one. Its the skill that matters
 

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You will have to show me a scan to prove so as nothing in the manga suggests it.

Not necessarily. Previously, small amount of chakra used to escape from the seal, so, whichever tech Naruto used had Kurama's chakra in it at all times even if it was a tiny amount. But after using modes and directly taking chakra from the Bijuu changes things ten fold, as in the latter case there is little Naruto chakra involved there. Naruto never had any base reserves bar the time Kurama seal was closed by Orochimaru.

So, I am not sure what you mean. Also, Enton overpowered the techs and magnified the explosion. Sasuke's own tech became the reason for both of them losing their arms so, it was hardly an even stalemate. Sasuke's tech combo was stronger that resulted in a bigger explosion.

Where do u see sasuke tech having the stronger explosion what type of nonsense is that lol the explosion came from the clash of both techniques. When two different forces clash it always causes an explosion no matter how small or big they are. Like a bullet against and grenade
 

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Where do u see sasuke tech having the stronger explosion what type of nonsense is that lol the explosion came from the clash of both techniques. When two different forces clash it always causes an explosion no matter how small or big they are. Like a bullet against and grenade

If you ever bother yourself to use your common sense, you would know that only this explosion resulted in their arms being blown apart. The only added ingredient was Enton. Naruto's Rasangan and Chidori were still the same. So why was the explosion much bigger when they were both nearly out of chakra and barely had enough to make a decent tech?
 

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If you ever bother yourself to use your common sense, you would know that only this explosion resulted in their arms being blown apart. The only added ingredient was Enton. Naruto's Rasangan and Chidori were still the same. So why was the explosion much bigger when they were both nearly out of chakra and barely had enough to make a decent tech?

Since when did Enton have explosive properties and since when could Enton be put out via an explosion if manga scans and DB statements dictate otherwise?
 

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Sasuke's enton chidori had kurama's chakra too retard

This I'd have to disagree with for the simple fact that PP doesn't retain the same chakra when absorbed. Perfect example is Naruto's SM chakra.


Sasuke had Kuramas chakra but didn't have Kuramas chakra if that makes any sense
 

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Since when did Enton have explosive properties and since when could Enton be put out via an explosion if manga scans and DB statements dictate otherwise?

Did I state it has? Reread the post.
 

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Did I state it has? Reread the post.

Ok Shelke, riddle me this. What role did Enton have in them losing their arms?


You are implying that Sasuke caused a bigger explosion which was not shown in the manga, but them stalemating is. So what part did Enton play
 
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This I'd have to disagree with for the simple fact that PP doesn't retain the same chakra when absorbed. Perfect example is Naruto's SM chakra.


Sasuke had Kuramas chakra but didn't have Kuramas chakra if that makes any sense

Thats wrong because
1. Absorbing too much SM chakra caused Pain to turn into stone.
2. Sasuke's susano was enhanced by the bijuu chakra he absorbed .
3. Last but not the least,Nagato went from this
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Ok Shelke, riddle me this. What role did Enton have in them losing their arms?

Riddle me this; you can read, right? All of it is in that post. Ask me this one more time, and I will dole out some reputation.
 

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If you ever bother yourself to use your common sense, you would know that only this explosion resulted in their arms being blown apart. The only added ingredient was Enton. Naruto's Rasangan and Chidori were still the same. So why was the explosion much bigger when they were both nearly out of chakra and barely had enough to make a decent tech?

Because both techs had kurama's chakra in them and Naruto and Sasuke were both exponentially stronger than their last chidori-rasengan clash?
 

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Riddle me this; you can read, right? All of it is in that post. Ask me this one more time, and I will dole out some reputation.

Show me a manga scan of Sasuke having a bigger explosion. If Enton's ability is to eat chakra, upon impact, Rasengan should have been void no?

Because both techs had kurama's chakra in them and Naruto and Sasuke were both exponentially stronger than their last chidori-rasengan clash?

This guy gets it
 

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Thats wrong because
1. Absorbing too much SM chakra caused Pain to turn into stone.
2. Sasuke's susano was enhanced by the bijuu chakra he absorbed .
3. Last but not the least,Nagato went from this
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After absorbing Bee's chakra

1. It wasn't SM chakra it was NE he was absorbing Pain already had the Spiritual Energy and Physical Energy, he absorbed too much Nature Energy which is why he turned into stone, just like Pa said

2. Yes it was, but he didn't use PP

3. The lack of chakra has shown characters to look bony and older as if their health was declining. Go back and look at the ninja whose chakra was absorbed by the Shinju tree.


I wish I could post scans but sadly someone stole my laptop charger
 

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1. It wasn't SM chakra it was NE he was absorbing Pain already had the Spiritual Energy and Physical Energy, he absorbed too much Nature Energy which is why he turned into stone, just like Pa said

2. Yes it was, but he didn't use PP

3. The lack of chakra has shown characters to look bony and older as if their health was declining. Go back and look at the ninja whose chakra was absorbed by the Shinju tree.


I wish I could post scans but sadly someone stole my laptop charger

According to you chakra absorbed by PP is instantly transformed into the user's chakra. If that's what happens, then absorbing too much NE shouldn't have turned him into stone since the chakra he's absorbing is instantly being converted. Him turning into stone is positive proof that chakra absorbed by PP retains it's properties.
 
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According to you chakra absorbed by PP is instantly transformed into the user's chakra. If that's what happens, then absorbing too much NE shouldn't have turned him into stone since the chakra he's absorbing is instantly being converted. Him turning into stone is positive proof that chakra absorbed by PP retains it's properties.

He wasn't absorbing Senjutsu chakra he was absorbing NE. If what you're saying is true, Naruto should have been turned to stone as well
 

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Because both techs had kurama's chakra in them and Naruto and Sasuke were both exponentially stronger than their last chidori-rasengan clash?

With smaller Chakra reserves? It is still an assumption. Given that the techs were made in a nearly exhausted state and Chidori can be made more or less potent depending upon reserves. Rasangan is an incomplete tech to begin with. It's nothing but pure chakra rotating on the hand. The explosion shouldn't have taken their arms out. It would also be silly to ignore Enton; the only ingredient added to the explosion for the first time.

Since both explode upon impact, it isn't erroneous to assume that Enton would change the explosion; a third ingredient that produces immense heat would make it more potent. Otherwise, both Rasangan and Chidori always stalemate. Nothing overpowers the other.

Show me a manga scan of Sasuke having a bigger explosion. If Enton's ability is to eat chakra, upon impact, Rasengan should have been void no?

Neither Rasangan nor Chidori is an exploding tech. At best, they cause certain amount of destruction to the environment, but none of them explode upon impact like TBB. But, when both of them meet, they produce an explosion. You asking me this explosion quality is absurd to begin given how the base techs function. Enton also produces heat; an important factor in explosions.

The rest of your question is mind-boggling. Maybe you should hit google and find out about detonation velocity.
 

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He wasn't absorbing Senjutsu chakra he was absorbing NE. If what you're saying is true, Naruto should have been turned to stone as well

Naruto didn't turn to stone because the NE he absorbed was instantly being absorbed by Pain and I am fairly certain I said Pain absorbed too much NE and turned to stone because contrary to your belief, chakra absorbed by PP retains it's basic properties and characteristics.
 
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