That base naruto thou!

[Detonator99]

Naruto can't make that many shadow-clones with just an Uzumaki heritage, sooner or later he would have had to run out of chakra. His chakra reserves were massively increased by having the Nine-Tails sealed inside of him, his essence and the essence of the Nine-Tails were mixed by all means. Whether you believe it or not doesn't change the facts.

I believe that the RSM was merged with Naruto's sage-mode, rather than required by Naruto's sage-mode. We're to believe that Asura had the RSM and we don't even know if he had sage-mode.

Both Naruto and Sasuke has Six Path's chakra, Sasuke has more Yin while Naruto has more Yang. However, Sasuke has the Ying Yang release due to the Rinnegan.

The databook said that the reason why kid naruto was able to create thousand of clones was thanks to his own chakra pool.

And naruto without kurama was indeed showed to make more then thousands shadow-clones.

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[Uzumaki Death god]

See nothing but manga facts here! Dat Lord Seventh

 

[Uzumaki Death god]

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pls shut up now

Did you have to ruin his life like that? Savage

 

[SenseiSama]

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pls shut up now

Doesn't change the fact the seal works by mixing the chakra of the bijuu with its host, chakra is responsible for binding and suppressing bijuus not only body strength.

1- Orochimaru said it
2- Jiraiya said it
3- Hagoromo said it
4- Obito felt it

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And if Jinchuuriki didn't have their chakras fused with bijuu in base form then Gaara would've lost his sand ability. Hold this L

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Doesn't change the fact the seal works by mixing the chakra of the bijuu with its host, chakra is responsible for binding and suppressing bijuus not only body strength.

1- Orochimaru said it
2- Jiraiya said it
3- Hagoromo said it
4- Obito felt it

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And if Jinchuuriki didn't have their chakras fused with bijuu in base form then Gaara would've lost his sand ability. Hold this L

Funny how you're posting scans of what Orochimaru said long back and completely ignoring what Naruto said after gaining control over Kyubi's chakra which is much more recent.

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Other than that based on your scan Hago clearly said Naruto has the chakra of all the bijus and that's all. He didn't say anything about them mixing with his chakra continuously. Besides doesn't make sense considering he only has part of the bijuus's chakra and he continues to waste them continuously on normal attacks when those chakras grant him each and every bijuu's special abilities. And last he asked Shukaku to give him chakra to create the sealing justsu to seal Madara, more proof that they do not continue to mix with his normal chakra and he doesn't have access to them readily.

And Gaara can control sand because his mother's love for him granted him those powers and not because of Shukaku.

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[gerizzyYMcrew]

Naruto can't make that many shadow-clones with just an Uzumaki heritage, sooner or later he would have had to run out of chakra. His chakra reserves were massively increased by having the Nine-Tails sealed inside of him, his essence and the essence of the Nine-Tails were mixed by all means. Whether you believe it or not doesn't change the facts.

you mean opinion...cause there is 0 proof of any of this

 

[Nick01]

10/10 thread. Well done, nothing but facts!

Naruto is without a doubt the most powerful in base.

Lord Seventh wrecks.

 

[SenseiSama]

Funny how you're posting scans of what Orochimaru said long back and completely ignoring what Naruto said after gaining control over Kyubi's chakra which is much more recent.

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Other than that based on your scan Hago clearly said Naruto has the chakra of all the bijus and that's all. He didn't say anything about them mixing with his chakra continuously. Besides doesn't make sense considering he only has part of the bijuus's chakra and he continues to waste them continuously on normal attacks when those chakras grant him each and every bijuu's special abilities. And last he asked Shukaku to give him chakra to create the sealing justsu to seal Madara, more proof that they do not continue to mix with his normal chakra and he doesn't have access to them readily.

And Gaara can control sand because his mother's love for him granted him those powers and not because of Shukaku.

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Funny you ignored the fact Naruto can use Kurama's power because their chakras are fused in the first place. Gaara is living proof jins have bijuu chakra in base mode, without it they can't use bijuu KKG without a chakra mode.

Kurama's power is Yang, having traces of his chakra in base form is why Naruto can naturally recover from a full day of training in one night, Kakashi even stated this.

Think of the seal as a filter, Naruto continuously has bijuu chakra flowing through him but chakra mode just means he's releasing more of the chakra from the source. The scan you posted is just a representation of where the source of his bijuu chakra is from.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Funny you ignored the fact Naruto can use Kurama's power because their chakras are fused in the first place. Gaara is living proof jins have bijuu chakra in base mode, without it they can't use bijuu KKG without a chakra mode.

Kurama's power is Yang, having traces of his chakra in base form is why Naruto can naturally recover from a full day of training in one night, Kakashi even stated this.

Think of the seal as a filter, Naruto continuously has bijuu chakra flowing through him but chakra mode just means he's releasing more of the chakra from the source. The scan you posted is just a representation of where the source of his bijuu chakra is from.

Funny how you just keep looking at the images but not read what Naruto is saying. He clearly said the chakra is sectioned off within his body and he's not using it all the time automatically. Instead you keep bringing what someone said in the past while still ignoring the most recent explanation of how his chakra is divided now. Besides all those comments about his chakra merging were made when he had Minato's original seal which he upgraded and explained how it works.
You're simply in denial with yin yang BS.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Just because Naruto isn't using the Kyuubi's chakra doesn't mean he doesn't have a chakra advantage because of it. It's one thing to be granted advantages from something, and another thing to actually tap into that "somethings" power.

Naruto's essence and the essence of the Nine-Tails are linked, that's how he got his whiskers in the first place. It is said that Jinchuriki retain the abilities of their tailed-beast even after death, meaning that their chakra's, given a long period of time eventually link together and connect.

Orochimaru literally said, "Its been 12 years since the sealing, and the chakra of Naruto and the Nine-tails have synchronized'".

Why don't we just conclude this debate, the series has plot-holes in it and that's unavoidable, no story has perfect facts. There's always going to be contradiction.

On one end it says that they aren't connected and on the other end it does, this isn't something that can be debated so let's just end this.

 

[Wizard_Impressive]

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pls shut up now

bruh

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Just because Naruto isn't using the Kyuubi's chakra doesn't mean he doesn't have a chakra advantage because of it. It's one thing to be granted advantages from something, and another thing to actually tap into that "somethings" power.

Naruto's essence and the essence of the Nine-Tails are linked, that's how he got his whiskers in the first place. It is said that Jinchuriki retain the abilities of their tailed-beast even after death, meaning that their chakra's, given a long period of time eventually link together and connect.

Orochimaru literally said, "Its been 12 years since the sealing, and the chakra of Naruto and the Nine-tails have synchronized'".

Why don't we just conclude this debate, the series has plot-holes in it and that's unavoidable, no story has perfect facts. There's always going to be contradiction.

On one end it says that they aren't connected and on the other end it does, this isn't something that can be debated so let's just end this.

What Orochimaru said was true with Naruto's old seal created by Minato. Naruto has completely upgraded the seal where kurama and his chakra is seperate and Naruto explained that quite clearly. So what Orochimaru said back then doesn't hold true now.
And still I see people use Orochimaru's outdated statement to analyze Naruto's current chakra...smh.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Your logic is so lacking, just because Naruto "updated" the seal doesn't change how the seal works. It doesn't change the fact that in the same amount of years, the chakra's will simply intertwine once more. And if I remember correctly, Minato simply restored the seal, he didn't make an entirely new one with a whole new system of mechanics.

You haven't said a damn thing to disprove anyone other than "That's an old panel so therefore it's not true". Just because Naruto is in full control of the Nine-Tails chakra doesn't change the fact that in a normal Jinchuriki's case, the chakra of the host and the beast intertwine after a good period of time. Meaning that Naruto's chakra reserves increased drastically due to the sealing of the Kyuubi inside of him.


You didn't disprove anything,.

 

[Prometheus 2000]

What Orochimaru said was true with Naruto's old seal created by Minato. Naruto has completely upgraded the seal where kurama and his chakra is seperate and Naruto explained that quite clearly. So what Orochimaru said back then doesn't hold true now.
And still I see people use Orochimaru's outdated statement to analyze Naruto's current chakra...smh.

Funny you ignored the fact Naruto can use Kurama's power because their chakras are fused in the first place. Gaara is living proof jins have bijuu chakra in base mode, without it they can't use bijuu KKG without a chakra mode.

Kurama's power is Yang, having traces of his chakra in base form is why Naruto can naturally recover from a full day of training in one night, Kakashi even stated this.

Think of the seal as a filter, Naruto continuously has bijuu chakra flowing through him but chakra mode just means he's releasing more of the chakra from the source. The scan you posted is just a representation of where the source of his bijuu chakra is from.

You two are something else.

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Naruto stated that not long after this...

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Conclusion: Naruto's base chakra is powerful because he has Kushina's blood within him which was the reason why he could handle being Kurama's Jinchuriki despite being a newborn. However, Minato's seal was designed to fuse bits of Kurama's chakra with Naruto's overtime, which gives him even more base chakra.

That scan showing Kurama's power lying dormant within Naruto signifies that Naruto would always have access to the power he took from Kurama forever, which was his KCM form.

Bijuu Chakra lies dormant within the body when not in use. There's a reason why Ginkaku and Kinkaku kept the power they stole from Kurama too. This is why it's hilarious when people say Naruto lost the other Bijuu's power lol.

 

[Detonator99]

Just because Naruto isn't using the Kyuubi's chakra doesn't mean he doesn't have a chakra advantage because of it. It's one thing to be granted advantages from something, and another thing to actually tap into that "somethings" power.

No, as pretty stated by kakashi since kurama chakra is at the root of nauto's stamina (not chakra) he actually becomes more difficult to control

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so it is actually a disavantage then actual help.

Naruto's essence and the essence of the Nine-Tails are linked, that's how he got his whiskers in the first place. It is said that Jinchuriki retain the abilities of their tailed-beast even after death, meaning that their chakra's, given a long period of time eventually link together and connect.

Lol no the reason why naruto has weaskers is because kishi had planed to make naruto the son of kyubi in the pilot manga, He even had before he became a jinchuriki.

Orochimaru literally said, "Its been 12 years since the sealing, and the chakra of Naruto and the Nine-tails have synchronized'".

Show me the scan wee he said it and i will debunk it by showing the viz scan.

Why don't we just conclude this debate, the series has plot-holes in it and that's unavoidable, no story has perfect facts. There's always going to be contradiction.

On one end it says that they aren't connected and on the other end it does, this isn't something that can be debated so let's just end this.

Not realy, i admit that the manga has plot holes but this ins't one of them, the ones who are contradicting the manga are the haters and you pretty much got influenced by their lies.

 

[Uchihakil]

Agreed with everything except your last point, the god tree in boruto movie is'nt as big as the one in the war arc, the war arc god tree is bigger than the barrier juubito created which enclosed all the shinobi allaince + extra room which was bigger than the kage barrier that was waay bigger than the juubi. momoshiki god tree is not even bigger than the juubi in width

 

[whiteboy2345]

Lol no the reason why naruto has weaskers is because kishi had planed to make naruto the son of kyubi in the pilot manga, He even had before he became a jinchuriki.

I believe it was further explained that Naruto got the whiskers because when he was in the womb, the chakra of the Kyubi intertwined with his own. Stop using facts that don't exist, as in the "pilot manga". This is the current NARUTO series we're talking about, you're still using faux-facts.

Show me the scan wee he said it and i will debunk it by showing the viz scan.

Somebody already showed the scan within this thread, go look for it and while you're at it learn English.



What Kakashi was saying is that because of the Kyuubi being inside of him, his chakra become's even greater and more plentiful which makes it doubly harder to control because the Kyuubi's chakra is leaking into his chakra and becoming his own chakra. The argument we're making is that Naruto's base chakra is much greater because of the seal, the seal allows the beasts chakra to intertwine with Naruto's and BECOME NARUTO'S CHAKRA. Jesus Christ the ignorance is unfathomable and the sheer arrogance of you Naruto Uzumaki fans is unbelievable in the face of your lack of logic.

 

[Detonator99]

Doesn't change the fact the seal works by mixing the chakra of the bijuu with its host, chakra is responsible for binding and suppressing bijuus not only body strength.

1- Orochimaru said it
2- Jiraiya said it
3- Hagoromo said it
4- Obito felt it

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Not going to bother at debunking this scan since it has nothing to debunk.

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Lol how about i bring the actual viz scan

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If thats the case could you at least explain to me why is that in viz orochimaru stated that only when he is consumed with rage its when a bit of the nine tails chakra comes out?

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also why is that in th viz when jiraya told him to summon kurama chakra he said the couldn't feal any?

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Yet you people keep bringing trash translation in order to back up your claims... just no.

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also nothing to debunk here.

]And if Jinchuuriki didn't have their chakras fused with bijuu in base form then Gaara would've lost his sand ability. Hold this L

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[patrickscott]

and in other breaking news. Water is wet.

 

[Guitar Hero]

Naruto is a beast.