Dehumanization is not about not putting flag filters on facebook or not drawing small solidarity cbaricatures, downright not taking what other people go through seriously or making it a norm. Like sure man i cared about Ankara more than Brussels or Iraq but that does not mean as human beings, what these people have gone through are more or less valid than what my people have gone through and i acknowledge that.
Dehumanization becomes a thing when a particual group (in this case Middle Easterns/Muslims) are at the recieving end for the most part but another group which takes significantly takes less damage acts like they are the primary victims/targets and then goes around & put the blame on primary victims at the higher risk (in this case again, Middle Easterns).
Unlike you i am partly from Eastern World and i can say that Western countries get huge media coverage. Same goes for several other Mid Eastern countries too since West has power over East. How are the Westerns get dehumanized if i may ask, other than your assumption? Do you have any knowledge on the region or any of their languages to confirm this is indeed truth?
I think all that you just said is your own speculation. I don't think that no one is saying that the west is the primary victim. All I'm saying is that incidents in western countries get more media coverage and sympathy in western media and in western countries.
Underlined: they get huge media coverage where? In western countries?
What I mean by dehumanizing is that you care about someone getting bombed more than you care about some other getting bombed. And the bolded statement from you confirms the psychology aspect behind this, that I adressed in my earlier post. Just because west controls the world doesn't mean that focusing on things happening on our own soil is hypocritical. East focuses just as much on their matters as we do.
I adressed this.
USA was pretty invested in Iraq i mean they got so close you would think they would knew what is happening in Iraq before Iraqis.
This has got nothing to do with me pointing out the psychology behind people's attitudes. And I live in Europe so I'm not going to adress this from the pov of USA, because why would I?
I...what? Religion is not an idealogy. People do not support something which can kill them at any moment.
Yes religion is an ideology. Ofcourse it is. Why wouldn't it be? From
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ideology
: the set of ideas and beliefs of a group or political party
1 : visionary theorizing
2 a : a systematic body of concepts especially about human life or culture
b : a manner or the content of thinking characteristic of an individual, group, or culture
All religions are ideologies. Not all ideologies are religions.
And what I meant is that it's hypocritical that a muslim support an ideology which oppresses one's human rights and kills people for their sexual orientation and having different beliefs (apostasy), but he/she condemn bombs flying at him/her.
You completely ignored existence of woman and homosexual Muslims and converts. Obviously not everyone who are Muslims support these, just like not everyone who are Christian are not. I used to be a Muslim btw, guess what my mother did not kill me!
If a muslim chooses to represent and ideology which accepts apostasy and killing homosexuals, then he accepts them also. You either accept everything that ideology entails or you don't be a part of it. Simple.
So what do you think shit will stop when those Muslims convert? Do you know how impractical and dumb it sounds?
Well let me say that if Islam wouldn't exist then this "shit" would decrease drastically. Nevertheless all I'm saying is that I don't have sympathy for people supporting a fascist ideology. Same way I don't have sympathy for nazi soldiers who died in WW2.
Lemme ask you this, do you say French and Belgium citizens deserved getting attacked for supporting & being part of countries which executed mass scale genocides and exploited lands & human labor, or your notion of -people-must-suffer-aswell- only applies to non Westerns?
This is where it gets retarded. 1) The politicians made those decisions. The victims being part of that country doesn't mean they share their leaders ideology. 2) Belgium and France executed mass scale genocide? Source?
Kid i am not even Muslim. Go ***** elsewhere about it.
You just asked me a bunch of questions and now you are asking me to go elsewhere? lmfao
I do not tell anyone to shed equal amount of tears to every victim. But people ignoring what is happening in other parts of World shifts their sense of how they grasp reality thus their opinions and so called solutions become detached from reality. Why speak of terror if you do not know its important parts?
I already adressed above why people are "ignoring" stuff that is happening in the East. There's the psychological aspect and the fact that media focuses more on Western world.
Why are you wasting your time on this guy? He doesn't seem to take in the samples of military terrorism carried out by the west that has mowed down millions of innocent lives. That doesn't even matter to him. He literary stated in another thread that "no matter what West has it, it still has a higher perch." That is a big red flag; big enough not to indulge this Jingoistic prick.
1) Earlier I have told you that I don't agree with U.S foreign policy or their military decisions in Iraq? So why do you keep bringing this up? Is it butthurtism or just cognitive dissonance? Because I have on numerous occasions stated how I despise the conservative religious lunatics in charge of U.S foreign policy. Starting from the Bush administration. Add to that U.S is NOT = WEST.
2) In the post to which you are referring to I said the following:
"live in Finland and we didn't do shit in Syria. Also despite what happened in Syria I still hold western society and it's living standards above all else. "
Western society = secular democrasies who have the best living standards in the world.
Why would you say it's wrong to hold western society above all else when generally speaking we are doing better than anyone else? U.S bouncing of the walls in Iraq and Syria doesn't change the fact that socioeconomically and human rights wise West is superior. You also seem from time and time again to forget that I don't nor haven't support U.S or meddling in the affairs of Syria.
