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A. That only destroyed the shell containing the byakugans. It was still operational afterwards. The biggest proof being that after Toneri lost his eyes, he could still utilize the tenseigan powers with the byakugans. It was still being used.

B. I don't think Naruto had Haruma chakra. There's no real indication that the chakra Hinata gave Naruto was a lasting buff.

A. I didn't see him use any Tenseigan powers afterwards. No chakra cloak or TSB. Just energy ball that he never used before and Hamura's eyes were among them.

B. People in the war had Kyuubi's chakra for some time.

No but the altar is needed for the tensigan. That explains why kaguya didn't awaken it.

It's never addressed as an altar and the eyes are just used to power the moon. That's it.
 
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Simple Q:Did Kaguya have Tenseigan ?
Kaguya with both Otutsuki and Hyuga chakra :coffee:

Simple Q: Did Kaguya have Magnet release? Did she have Lava release? Did she have Scortch release?

Answer these questions and I'll answer yours.
 

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Simple Q: Did Kaguya have Magnet release? Did she have Lava release? Did she have Scortch release?

Answer these questions and I'll answer yours.

dunno about them becoz bijuus surely have them
Answer my Q plz
Kaguya with otutsuki and hyuga didn't have Tenseigan.Why? :coffee:
 

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dunno about them becoz bijuus surely have them
Answer my Q plz
Kaguya with otutsuki and hyuga didn't have Tenseigan.Why? :coffee:

And you just answered your own question.

The Bijuus have those Kekkai Genkai don' t they? Goku has Lava, Shukaku has Magnet, Kokuo has Boil and Juubi has Wood.

The Bijuus are apart of the Juubi. Kaguya is the Juubi itself.

Meaning whatever the Bijuu can do, so can she, because they are literally the same being.

Hell, remember how Madara gained access to Storm style after he became the Juubi's Jinchuriki? That's because every KG comes from Kaguya.

Yet we never see Kaguya use Lava, Wood, Boil, or Magnet release. Why is that ?

Plot.

Kishimoto reached a point in where he literally gave a single character every imaginable power and technique in Naruto . So of course, the nerfing began. I guess not using the Tenseigan was merely one of those nerfs.

I mean, really, why didn't Kaguya push Naruto and Sasuke away with Magnet release?
 

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fillergan was nvr mentioned in manga and u r trying too hard :coffee:

sigh ... This is the exact reason I hate debating with you. You never even bother w/ any argument I give and instead you mock me . Whatever, I'll save my breath, I guess .
 

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sigh ... This is the exact reason I hate debating with you. You never even bother w/ any argument I give and instead you mock me . Whatever, I'll save my breath, I guess .

Good :)
 

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Tsk... i'm holding my tongue here. I'm half-convinced the OP is either baiting or seriously believes himself, and it figures who the only supporter of his fallacious claims is...

It's threads like these that tempt me to hate the movie before i've even watched it. I don't intend to get into anymore pointless arguments, though. Don't know why you're wasting your time, Blazing.

I want to whoop some ass but dat ban tho
 

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Get slapped fodder. The Byakugan needs otsutsuki chakra to evolve into the Tenseigan how the hell is that any different from sage Chakra evolving the Sharingan?

Fap to your fodder filler eye harder son.

Sage Chakra doesn't evolve the Sharingan. EMS is Sharingan's limit. Rennigan is a completely different dojutsu.

For example, if Hashirama/Naruto had gotten chakra from Madara/Sasuke, they too would have unlocked the Rennigan, without having a sharingan at all. Meaning the Rennigan is independant of the Sharingan.

Hence why Nagato was unable to switch his Rennigan back EMS/Sharingan, yet Kakashi is fully capable of switching between sharingan and MS.

Hence why Madara was unable to use any EMS techniques after he came back to life in a real body, because all his eye was was a Rennigan, which is unable to switch back into a sharingan if it's not the original body.
 

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Doesn't change the fact that the Byakugan needs Otsutsuki chakra to evolve into the Tenseigan, which is no different from Sage chakra evolving the Sharingan, so Sennin of Dumbass is still an idiot.

Bar enhancenments: MS > Byakugan

No, there is a diffrence.

Rennigan can only be awakened through Indra and Ashura incarnates. Namely, only Naruto, Sasuke, Madara & Hashirama have the potential of unlocking the Rennigan

On the other hand, ANY Hyuga with Ootsutsuki chakra [Hinata, Neji, Hanabi, Ko, Tokuma Hiashi, etc] and ANY Ootsutsuki with Byakugan eyes can unlock the Tenseigan. Basically, the Tenseigan has a wider potential to be unlocked by a wider audience.

But my point was that Rennigan and Sharingan are individual, independent dojutsus, not the same. Meaning Sharingan's limit is EMS.
 

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Get slapped fodder. The Byakugan needs otsutsuki chakra to evolve into the Tenseigan how the hell is that any different from sage Chakra evolving the Sharingan?

Fap to your fodder filler eye harder son.


Lol the salt! There's a huge difference. It only needs 2 chakra to become a different dojutsu, just like EMS requires Indra's charka, and rinnegan requires Hagoromo's chakra. The sharingan doesn't "evolve" with Rikkudo chakra. What Rikkudo chakra does for the rinnegan is takes a completely unrelated power (rikkudo chakra and/or juubi) to act as a crutch for the dojutsu. Whereas chakra acts as a requirement, not a buff for the tenseigan. The tenseigan doesn't need to bring in unrelated abilities to make it powerful. Everything it accomplishes, is the power of the dojutsu itself. Whereas the sharingan and rinnegan need to bleed out senjutsu chakra, the non-dojutsu ability, to be in the ballpark and or surpass the Tenseigan. It shows complete inferiority as an eye power itself.

The fact that you dismiss it as filler despite the fact that it's cannon shows that you're in denial that something OP could come from a clan other than the Uchiha.
 

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No, there is a diffrence.

Rennigan can only be awakened through Indra and Ashura incarnates. Namely, only Naruto, Sasuke, Madara & Hashirama have the potential of unlocking the Rennigan

On the other hand, ANY Hyuga with Ootsutsuki chakra [Hinata, Neji, Hanabi, Ko, Tokuma Hiashi, etc] and ANY Ootsutsuki with Byakugan eyes can unlock the Tenseigan. Basically, the Tenseigan has a wider potential to be unlocked by a wider audience.

But my point was that Rennigan and Sharingan are individual, independent dojutsus, not the same. Meaning Sharingan's limit is EMS.

@Bold: it still requires an unnatural/unorthodox method to evolve.

You could say the Byakugan has potential to surpass the sharingan... with Otsutsuki chakra, but the fact that it needs an outside power source from a God in order to do so. .. Lol
Lol the salt! There's a huge difference. It only needs 2 chakra to become a different dojutsu, just like EMS requires Indra's charka, and rinnegan requires Hagoromo's chakra. The sharingan doesn't "evolve" with Rikkudo chakra. What Rikkudo chakra does for the rinnegan is takes a completely unrelated power (rikkudo chakra and/or juubi) to act as a crutch for the dojutsu. Whereas chakra acts as a requirement, not a buff for the tenseigan. The tenseigan doesn't need to bring in unrelated abilities to make it powerful. Everything it accomplishes, is the power of the dojutsu itself. Whereas the sharingan and rinnegan need to bleed out senjutsu chakra, the non-dojutsu ability, to be in the ballpark and or surpass the Tenseigan. It shows complete inferiority as an eye power itself.

The fact that you dismiss it as filler despite the fact that it's cannon shows that you're in denial that something OP could come from a clan other than the Uchiha.

stopped reading at EMS requires Indra chakra.
 
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@Bold: it still requires an unnatural/unorthodox method to evolve.

You could say the Byakugan has potential to surpass the sharingan... with Otsutsuki chakra, but the fact that it needs an outside power source from a God in order to do so. .. Lol

Put dat guy on ignore list.He was trying to explain me how Hinata has bijuu lvl chakra :|
 

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@Bold: it still requires an unnatural/unorthodox method to evolve.

You could say the Byakugan has potential to surpass the sharingan... with Otsutsuki chakra, but the fact that it needs an outside power source from a God in order to do so. .. Lol


Who the heck is arguing for the Byakugan? We're talking about the Tenseigan. We're not talking about Orthodox methods of awakening, we're talking about what each eye can do without taking in a body power coughjuubi, senjutsu, Rikkudo chakracough.

Wait wait wait. You just compared Toneri to a god in chakra. It's just compatibility between the clans like the rinnegan(except it's even more unorthodox than that), not receiving the chakra of a god-tier being like Hagoromo to boost it.
 
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