Temari vs Mei ?

[AGoodBoy]

With your avatar and certain posts like this one, I often mistake you for KidGamer65.

The slicing winds didn't even touch Tayuya's skin because she was crouching underneath some trees for cover.

Also that jutsu you posted of Temari's is way back from part one from chapter 213. Considering you're comparing a jutsu from a genin from chapter 213 used against a member of the sound four to a jutsu used by a kage against none other than Madara in chapter 575 or so, it is a really unfair comparison. It fails to take into account that Temari's B ranked

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now has a stronger version called

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. This stronger version is unranked because the latest data book came out right after the Itachi VS Sasuke fight. On the other hand, if we compare her original C ranked

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to her B ranked (also part one) dai kamaitachi no jutsu, the B ranked one is much much stronger. I showed you the Naruto Wiki just to see the difference between the rank of the kamaitachi no jutsu and the daikamaitachi no jutsu and also so that you can read the descriptions particularly for the non ranked

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.

The original

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that Temari showcased against Shikamaru during chapters 107 and 108 was only strong enough to barely scratch a thin tree.

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Later on, her more powerful version of kamaitachi no jutsu, the dai kamaitachi no jutsu, managed to mow down six trees in a row. As you can see the trees that Temari mowed down were larger in diameter, height and width compared to the tree that Shikamaru was hiding behind during the chunin exams.

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This all goes to show that in just 100 chapters and a 2 month gap in the manga, the power and range behind Temari's basic wind scythe attacks had been multiplied and scaled up by a large amount. Mowing down 6 trees VS scratching just one only after 2 months is a massive improvement.

Now you must take into account that Temari is now a jounin, many hundreds of chapters have passed since then as well as a 2.5 year time skip. Going with this logic, her okamaitachi no jutsu is most definitely A ranked unlike her dai kamaitachi no jutsu which is B ranked. Her

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was used in a more

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, with less area of effect compared to

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for obvious reasons. Like the three others, Temari was aiming to destroy

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, which is very small in comparison to the area of effect covered by dai kamaitachi in part one. Thus increasing its area of effect will only decrease the jutsu's power for every inch of surface area upon ribcage susanoo.

The C ranked

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during the kage summit arc was strong enough to slice apart

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even though in part one, it couldn't scratch a tree. Also important to note: the amaterasu on the armour didn't increase in ferocity nor did the Samurai get hurt by the wind because Temari has the control to make sure her attack doesn't harm her ally. We can conclude that if Temari actually wanted to kill that samurai, she could have easily done so with her weakest and most basic C ranked kamaitachi no jutsu, much weaker than her B ranked dai kamaitachi no jutsu which in turn is much weaker than her A ranked okamaitachi no jutsu.

Even after scaling her jutsu's for part two, I don't see Temari's wind attack being able to completely blow away Mei's water attack because water is heavier than wind thus it has a lot more momentum going for it. Temari's wind can slow down Mei's suiton though, I hope you agree with me on that.

Other than that, I don't see how Mei is dodging or blocking

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via water walls. I'll admit there were

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attacking the 3rd Raikage at that particular time but I'm not sure how two fan users with

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can combine an attack with a

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and make it much more stronger. If anything, those two had a marginal difference on the power of the wind cast net and helped more in terms of increasing its area of effect and distracting the 3rd Raikage from the main threat, which was Temari. If you still have doubts, remember that if thousands of rocks were thrown at a brick wall, no damage would occur but if a bulldozer comes, it will destroy the brick wall and do the same amount of damage regardless of all the other rocks thrown.

Mei's lava can either be blown away or cooled down since lava gets cooled down into igneous rock right after erupting from a volcano since rocks can only stay molted at very high temperatures.

As for Kiri Kiri Mae, the jutsu is now strong enough to do

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used against the 3rd Raikage so Mei definitely isn't blocking this. Not only that, but it can be used over and over continuously.

Summary: I believe Mei would win this fight with more feats such as doton and katon ones although going strictly by feats, this fight is a draw. In other words both Temari and Mei end up killing each other because neither can block each other's attack.

So, basically, I scale one of temari's biggest attacks and your response is to use much smaller attacks that only slice and a summoning jutsu. Temari's attacks are still dwarfed lmfao. Just think about it logically; What happens if there's a wave coming and you have a group of people swing at it with sharp swords? Nothing will happen. You don't cut through a wave, you push it back GG temari.

Don't really feel like enabling PC. Oh, btw, temari's attacks are slicing attacks, so at best they'd slice up the stream of lava. For that matter, I doubt they'd cool it down since that's not how RL or NV works. You'd need to google that volcano example, because lava streams down the side of volcano's as magma, then hardens upon contact with water. Terami doesn't have water, so she can't cool the lava either

 

[Netferarri]

Lel Mei stomps.

 

[Icelerate]

So, basically, I scale one of temari's biggest attacks and your response is to use much smaller attacks that only slice and a summoning jutsu. Temari's attacks are still dwarfed lmfao. Just think about it logically; What happens if there's a wave coming and you have a group of people swing at it with sharp swords? Nothing will happen. You don't cut through a wave, you push it back GG temari.

No my point was that the attack you used had stronger variants but those variants were smaller because in those scenarios, it was best for Temari to use more focussed precision attacks as opposed to area of effect attacks. If she were to use area of effect attacks with range, they'd be a lot stronger than the scan you posted.

In the manga,

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created by Yamato with ease before he mastered the ability to use wind release. Temari has fuuton with much greater cutting ability and power compared to THAT version of Naruto before he could use FRS. Sure Mei's suiton are larger than Yamato's but so are Temari's compared to the Naruto I just showed.

Apparently even Asuma using a small amount of wind chakra could have

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with ease just by throwing a wind enhanced knife yet Temari can't cut through water considering boulders are more durable than water?

Oh and by the way, a wave of water can be cut apart with a sword if you swing hard enough.

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much greater than anything Mei has was

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named Zoro from One Piece. Thereby repelling the wave of water and saving the ship from getting sunk.

Don't really feel like enabling PC. Oh, btw, temari's attacks are slicing attacks, so at best they'd slice up the stream of lava. For that matter, I doubt they'd cool it down since that's not how RL or NV works. You'd need to google that volcano example, because lava streams down the side of volcano's as magma, then hardens upon contact with water. Terami doesn't have water, so she can't cool the lava either

What do you mean by what you said in bold? Yes Temari's attacks are slicing attacks but those currents of slicing winds are in large quantities thus creating a vacuum which creates a force thus allowing it to repel the stream of lava.

If you want proof of this claim, just read this description in the

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: Temari uses her giant fan to create a more powerful and larger-scale version of her Great Sickle Weasel Technique, releasing heavy air currents that collide together to create many vacuum pockets to slash her targets.


I know water hardens lava and that Mei can do so at will but that doesn't mean that only water and Mei can cool lava down. I'm sure blowing on soup can cool it down and Temari's wind is so much stronger than me blowing on some hot soup. Anyway it only has to change its trajectory thus allowing Temari to dodge it. Oh and one last thing, I'm not saying Temari wins this, she dies, but so does Mei. All in all this is a draw, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Temari wins if one were to go by feats, and feats alone. Mei wins by manga portrayal and hype.

 

[miromiro]

Mei wins. Both strength-wise and sexually.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Holy shit how do people think Temari beats Mei?? Temari's fuuton isn't stopping Mei's larger Suiton, her Lava Release, and her Boil Release.

Mei is clearly the superior one, she is so underrated. Temari is not beating her I can't believe what I'm reading

 

[Prince Charles]

Holy shit how do people think Temari beats Mei?? Temari's fuuton isn't stopping Mei's larger Suiton, her Lava Release, and her Boil Release.

Mei is clearly the superior one, she is so underrated. Temari is not beating her I can't believe what I'm reading

I personally think your not taking into consideration of Mei's abilities her lava honestly I see no reason why she can't be capable of evading it with the use of her via levitation or simply blowing it away, the same goes for her for boil release. It's arguable to me regarding her taking out mei's suiton.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

I personally think your not taking into consideration of Mei's abilities her lava honestly I see no reason why she can't be capable of evading it with the use of her via levitation or simply blowing it away, the same goes for her for boil release. It's arguable to me regarding her taking out mei's suiton.

I can understand her Boil Release getting blown away, but I can't see her Lava Release getting blown away as easily as you describe it would. It consists of 2 natures, 1 nature isn't beating out 2 natures, as Kakashi explained.

Can I get a scan of Temari's most devastating/powerful tech? I could have sworn she did Kiri Kiri Mai with 2 other ninja. I have no reason to believe her Fuuton can take out Mei's Suiton when Mei's Suiton is huge and I don't know how Temari will "blow away" a huge mass of water coming at her. Wind is more of a slicing element. Earth would do the trick.

 

[-Sky-]

Can I get a scan of Temari's most devastating/powerful tech? I could have sworn she did Kiri Kiri Mai with 2 other ninja. I have no reason to believe her Fuuton can take out Mei's Suiton when Mei's Suiton is huge and I don't know how Temari will "blow away" a huge mass of water coming at her. Wind is more of a slicing element. Earth would do the trick.

The Kiri Kiri Mai used against Tayuya was a collab with her summon, so she's capable of that.

OT: Mei wins mid-high diff.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

The Kiri Kiri Mai used against Tayuya was a collab with her summon, so she's capable of that.

OT: Mei wins mid-high diff.

Sorry I meant Cast Net, not Kiri Kiri Mai

Temari's wind is so overrated. She performed Cast Net along with 2 other wind release users and it slightly cut the Third Raikage, who wasn't even clad in his Lightning Release armor.

She most definitely is not breaking through her Suiton. Mei wins low-mid diff at the most

 

[-Sky-]

Sorry I meant Cast Net, not Kiri Kiri Mai

Temari's wind is so overrated. She performed Cast Net along with 2 other wind release users and it slightly cut the Third Raikage, who wasn't even clad in his Lightning Release armor.

She most definitely is not breaking through her Suiton. Mei wins low-mid diff at the most

Yeah against the Raikage it was a collaboration with others, but she did use it individually later on in the battle against the Juubi. She had Kyuubi cloak at the time, so the technique was amplified, but she can still do it individually.

I still think Mei wins though so you don't have to prove anything to me lol.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Yeah against the Raikage it was a collaboration with others, but she did use it individually later on in the battle against the Juubi. She had Kyuubi cloak at the time, so the technique was amplified, but she can still do it individually.

I still think Mei wins though so you don't have to prove anything to me lol.

Yeah ik lol it just starting to get annoying how overrated her fuuton is.

You're a good guy

 

[Prince Charles]

I can understand her Boil Release getting blown away, but I can't see her Lava Release getting blown away as easily as you describe it would. It consists of 2 natures, 1 nature isn't beating out 2 natures, as Kakashi explained.

Can I get a scan of Temari's most devastating/powerful tech? I could have sworn she did Kiri Kiri Mai with 2 other ninja. I have no reason to believe her Fuuton can take out Mei's Suiton when Mei's Suiton is huge and I don't know how Temari will "blow away" a huge mass of water coming at her. Wind is more of a slicing element. Earth would do the trick.

The nature example you used made absolutely no sense to me. While it is true her lava release consists of 2 elements I don't see how that alone would make temari's fuuton have a more difficulty task blowing it away? That makes no sense, obvious kakashi's example regarding the matter of combining katon+fuuton would give a suiton user a harder time putting it out due to the added wind giving the katon more power but I don't see how Mei's Lava KKG having 2 elements being a hardship for temari even came into play here as I don't see how that examples of yours even made sense. Now I won't deny her fuuton will have trouble blowing away large portions of lava but in terms of small globs she used against sasuke and other smaller portions of lava she get blown away.

Anyway her find does indeed slice but she has shown large scale repelling fuuton attack before and as sky put it her Kiri kiri Mai summon should be capable of dealing with Mei's suiton. Mei will be dealing with constant air slicing offensive attacks.

Also regarding her boil release as Shikamaru put it,

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. That being said if the mist get's blown away Mei still has to face incoming fuuton coming at her.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

The nature example you used made absolutely no sense to me. While it is true her lava release consists of 2 elements I don't see how that alone would make temari's fuuton have a more difficulty task blowing it away? That makes no sense, obvious kakashi's example regarding the matter of combining katon+fuuton would give a suiton user a harder time putting it out due to the added wind giving the katon more power but I don't see how Mei's Lava KKG having 2 elements being a hardship for temari even came into play here as I don't see how that examples of yours even made sense. Now I won't deny her fuuton will have trouble blowing away large portions of lava but in terms of small globs she used against sasuke and other smaller portions of lava she get blown away.

Anyway her find does indeed slice but she has shown large scale repelling fuuton attack before and as sky put it her Kiri kiri Mai summon should be capable of dealing with Mei's suiton. Mei will be dealing with constant air slicing offensive attacks.

Also regarding her boil release as Shikamaru put it,

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. That being said if the mist get's blown away Mei still has to face incoming fuuton coming at her.

Though I disagree with Temari's fuuton defending against Mei's huge Suiton, lets say it can.

Temari's stamina is still not great, being a 3/5 according to the data book. Mei has shown to use more jutsu and have more stamina than Temari. It's more than likely she could out last Temari. You describe as if Temari's Fuuton will just cancel out all of Mei's jutsu's, so outlasting would be the solution.

You say my analogy doesn't make sense, yet you are telling me her Fuuton beats out huge Suiton, Boil Release (consisting of Suiton and Katon) and Lava Release (Katon and Doton)

You are overestimating her fuuton, her fuuton isn't being great suiton, and 2 KG's, that's a little too much

 

[-Sky-]

I wouldn't underestimate the strength of Mei's Suiton though PC.

Suiton: Suijinchū is a defensive class jutsu, and it's capable of defending against Madara's advanced Katon:

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So it's not like it's going to be blown to hell like some random forest, and also, Mei's capable of creating this into an offensive attack directly after:

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But that's just her regular Suiton.. Mei has the ability to use all of her elements in quick succession, thus creating a barrage of elemental attacks that quite frankly, a flimsy Wind Defense would not be able to hold up against.

If she used the above Suiton Jutsu's ^ then follwed with Yōton: Yōkai no Jutsu, from above and from head on:

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To put into better perspective the scale of the tech:

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And Mei can continually use this jutsu for an extended period of time:

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So to sum my thoughts on this match up, Temari not Mei, will be the one who will be kept on the defensive this battle. Mei can use her techniques in much more successive fashion than Temari, and she can keep attacking continuously. Mei barrages Temari by starting with her Suiton then switching to her incredibly powerful Yoton. One would need a much stronger form of evasion and/or defense to escape this combo, and Temari has neither.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

I wouldn't underestimate the strength of Mei's Suiton though PC.

Suiton: Suijinchū is a defensive class jutsu, and it's capable of defending against Madara's advanced Katon:

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So it's not like it's going to be blown to hell like some random forest, and also, Mei's capable of creating this into an offensive attack directly after:

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But that's just her regular Suiton.. Mei has the ability to use all of her elements in quick succession, thus creating a barrage of elemental attacks that quite frankly, a flimsy Wind Defense would not be able to hold up against.

If she used the above Suiton Jutsu's ^ then follwed with Yōton: Yōkai no Jutsu, from above and from head on:

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To put into better perspective the scale of the tech:

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And Mei can continually use this jutsu for an extended period of time:

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So to sum my thoughts on this match up, Temari not Mei, will be the one who will be kept on the defensive this battle. Mei can use her techniques in much more successive fashion than Temari, and she can keep attacking continuously. Mei barrages Temari by starting with her Suiton then switching to her incredibly powerful Yoton. One would need a much stronger form of evasion and/or defense to escape this combo, and Temari has neither.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Mei low-mid diff

 

[Headmaster]

Tie imho..

 

[Nattana]

Temari is overrated. Her Fuuton couldn't cut Tayuya's skin and considering that Mei tanked Madara's Susanoo punch like np, doesn't give a shit about lava dripping on her skin or acid mist around her, some Wind Release isn't gonna do much.

Suiton are much bigger and Youton has elemental advantage over Fuuton. Futton is an overkill.

Moreover, once Mei engages CQC with Temari, she is done for. Temari cannot swing her fan with someone close to her and Mei in close combat has massive advantages.

 

[Mellanoma]

Temari takes this low difficulty... Temari literally in part 1 destroyed a forrest full of trees with wind alone....

 

[Prince Charles]

I wouldn't underestimate the strength of Mei's Suiton though PC.

Suiton: Suijinchū is a defensive class jutsu, and it's capable of defending against Madara's advanced Katon:

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So it's not like it's going to be blown to hell like some random forest, and also, Mei's capable of creating this into an offensive attack directly after:

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But that's just her regular Suiton.. Mei has the ability to use all of her elements in quick succession, thus creating a barrage of elemental attacks that quite frankly, a flimsy Wind Defense would not be able to hold up against.

If she used the above Suiton Jutsu's ^ then follwed with Yōton: Yōkai no Jutsu, from above and from head on:

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To put into better perspective the scale of the tech:

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And Mei can continually use this jutsu for an extended period of time:

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So to sum my thoughts on this match up, Temari not Mei, will be the one who will be kept on the defensive this battle. Mei can use her techniques in much more successive fashion than Temari, and she can keep attacking continuously. Mei barrages Temari by starting with her Suiton then switching to her incredibly powerful Yoton. One would need a much stronger form of evasion and/or defense to escape this combo, and Temari has neither.

Already aware of Mei's suiton abilities no need to post them, I still say Temari can take this.

Though I disagree with Temari's fuuton defending against Mei's huge Suiton, lets say it can.

Temari's stamina is still not great, being a 3/5 according to the data book. Mei has shown to use more jutsu and have more stamina than Temari. It's more than likely she could out last Temari. You describe as if Temari's Fuuton will just cancel out all of Mei's jutsu's, so outlasting would be the solution.

You say my analogy doesn't make sense, yet you are telling me her Fuuton beats out huge Suiton, Boil Release (consisting of Suiton and Katon) and Lava Release (Katon and Doton)

You are overestimating her fuuton, her fuuton isn't being great suiton, and 2 KG's, that's a little too much

Won't waste my time replying but like I said your example made no sense whats no ever.