Temari is a more versatile wind release user than Danzo

Who is a more versatile fuuton user


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I shall first summarize what each can do, bring proof of my claims and then go on to compare them. I'm only using feats up to the war arc so no anime, novel or movie feats included in this OP. You can add/mention them if you want.

Danzo's abilities
  1. Can extend the length and power of metallic weapons with
  2. Can make or .
  3. Can make or one
  4. Can together to create a stronger attack.
Temari's abilities
  1. Can .
  2. Can .
  3. Can make .
  4. Has control over fuuton even after it is fired (proof below).
  5. Can or the power of her kamaitachi variants.

Page 211 Kuchiyose: Kirikiri mai

Top black box:
忍術 ・ 口寄せ・斬り斬り舞い
Ninjutsu // Kuchiyose: Kirikiri mai (Summoning: Spinning slashing dance) (wikipedia said ‘quick beheading dance’, but that sounds silly)

使用者 テマリ
User Temari

Bold heading down right:
疾風怒濤 暴れ斬り裂く鎌鼬の舞!�� �
Roaring whirlwind!! The rampaging and slashing dance of the Kamaitachi!! (Kamitachi is a weasel that it is said can cut things without touching them)

Paragraphs:
巨大扇子で風を操る、砂隠れのテマ�� �の大技!!テマリが巻き起こす強風� ��、口寄せした鎌鼬を乗せることで、 触れるもの全てを斬り裂き尽くす!�� �
Temari of Sand Village controls the wind with a massive fan!! She whips up a tempest, and summons a Kamaitachi that rides the winds slashing through everything it touches!!

術の効果範囲は、術者を中心として�� �径数百mにも及ぶ。またその大旋風� ��、薙ぎ払われた巨木や岩をも巻き込 み、敵はなす術なく倒れ去るのみ!�� �
The effects of the jutsu stretch outwards for several hundred metres. The swirling winds also whip up the mowed down trees and boulders which rain down on the helpless enemy!!

多数の敵に四方を囲まれたり、遮蔽�� �に隠れた敵を攻撃する場合に極めて� ��効。術の発動後、自身の姿を曝して しまうことだけが、唯一の難点だ。
It is highly effective when surrounded on all sides or when the enemy is hiding behind a shield. The sole weakness of the jutsu is that it exposes the user’s position.





Databook 2 - Kamatari:
Kamatari paragraph, heading:
é‹*利なる大鎌でä¸�� �象を薙ぐ!
Decimated by a sharp scythe!

Kamatari paragraph:
テマリが口寄せ゠‹éš»çœ¼ã®é¼¬ã€‚動き� �¯ä¿Šæ•ã«ã—て豪快� �€ãƒ†ãƒžãƒªãŒå·¨å¤§æ‰�� �å*ã«ã‚ˆã£ã¦èµ·ã“ã�� �é¢¨ã«ä¹—ã£ã¦æš´ã‚Œå› žã‚‹ã€‚å·± の身の丈以上もの 鎌の他に、数多ã� �鎌を操り周囲の� �‰©ã‚’瞬時になぎå�� �’す様は、圧巻・㠃»ãƒ»ï¼
The one eyed weasel summoned by Temari. His movements are swift and dynamic, and he rides on the wind from Temari's giant fan, wreaking havoc. Seeing him mow down everything in an instant with a huge scythe taller than himself and countless other scythes is the best part!

Text over weasel:
斬る!
Slash!

Translated by flunko



These first two databook entries I posted above prove that the wind from Temari's fan is used by Kamatari to . KKM can either be used all around the user or against a without harming bystanders. How it is used is decided by Temari who is the one casting the wind to propel Kamatari.

The Sand shinobi bring up overlapping
gusts of wind, giving birth to a net of air
currents that traps the enemy! When
used against the Ten-Tails, a large net
was cast to capture a wider range.



This databook entry above proves that after is cast, it ends up trapping the 3rd Raikage which can only be done by enveloping all around him. Initially, however, the 3rd Raikage still has room to escape from the sides, above or below. , it was used to thus the wind style users didn't wrap the technique around the Juubi which goes to show that it can be used in two different ways. Thus wind cast net is manipulated even after it has been cast.

Temari and Danzo comparison
Well Temari and Danzo can both make slices of wind and fuse them. Danzo's advantage is that he can infuse metallic weaponry and even extend his blade much like Asuma's hien. Temari, on the other hand, can make spiral shaped fuuton which is a more advanced form of spatial manipulation compared to Danzo's fuuton bullets. Temari has the ability to vary the power of her techniques which is similar to Danzo's ability to vary the size and quantity of his bullets or slices. Temari's advantage is that she is able to freely manipulate her gale whereas the same can't be said of Danzo.

Finally
If I'm missing something, please feel free to add it. Also I'm well aware that some of my scans have Temari collaborating with fellow Suna shinobi but the point isn't the power of their wind techs. The point is the mechanics of the actual techs themselves.
 
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Shouldn't "versatility" apply to one in any situation. What if opponent forcefully removed temari from her fan. Then what? Or does that not matter.
 

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Danzo's usage of Fuuton is different. Can't be compared.
It being different doesn't mean it can't be compared. Going by your logic, no shinobi can be compared because they are all different.

Shouldn't "versatility" apply to one in any situation. What if opponent forcefully removed temari from her fan. Then what? Or does that not matter.
No because going by your logic, Danzo's hands can be removed as well. Although Izanagi mitigates that but we are strictly talking about fuuton prowess. Not a hypothetical VS scenario.
 
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That's a summon not a fuuton tech. Moreover, Temari has an equally useful summon as well.
The summin powers up his fuuton techs with power able to pierce Susanoo, think of it as his vaccuum to her fan. Temari isnt on that level and all she summons is a cat.

Danzo is better.
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The summin powers up his fuuton techs with power able to pierce Susanoo. Temari isnt on that level and all she summons is a cat.

Danzo is better.
We are talking about who is more versatile, not who is more powerful.
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Yeah I already admit Danzo can infuse chakra in metallic objects as an advantage. Wind bullets are nice and all but that level of shape manipulation is nothing compared to much more complex spirals. Since you're using anime, I may as well use novels where . She does it without even being in contact with the shuriken and when she was which is a far better feat than Danzo's.
 
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Temari's more versatile with Fuuton, but she depends entirely on her fan. Danzo can manipulate the chakra nature himself without a medium plus infuse it onto weapons, while everything Fuuton-related Temari has displayed was via her fan. With it you're right, without it Danzo is quite above her at least by feats.

By the way, where is it stated that just bending some wind projectiles slightly is "way more complex" than a straight shape? I don't remember shape manipulation stating the level of complexity being so much higher by just slightly changing the shape of the technique, otherwise I can say that small and precise air bullets are harder to do and require more precision than Temari's Okamaitachi.
 
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Temari's more versatile with Fuuton, but she depends entirely on her fan. Danzo can manipulate the chakra nature himself without a medium plus infuse it onto weapons, while everything Fuuton-related Temari has displayed was via her fan. With it you're right, without it Danzo is quite above her at least by feats.
The CE shows us that using a tool shouldn't be used to put someone down. I could use similar logic to say Temari is more skilled because she doesn't use hand seals for any of her techniques .
By the way, where is it stated that just bending some wind projectiles slightly is "way more complex" than a straight shape? I don't remember shape manipulation stating the level of complexity being so much higher by just slightly changing the shape of the technique, otherwise I can say that small and precise air bullets are harder to do and require more precision than Temari's Okamaitachi.
My mistake about it being way more complex, I'll change it.
It's still more complex nonetheless due to being a more complex shape and the . We know that rasengan used to be the pinnacle of shape manipulation ( ) and then it was FRS. Both had in common the fact that there was a lot of circular motion going on. Now kamaitachi variants aren't the pinnacle of shape manipulation, but they are still better than ordinary slices of wind. Wind bullets are just small spheres/cylinders. Them being small doesn't mean it's some impressive shape manipulation feat, at least IMO.
 
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