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No, it will have dispersed, it's atomic composition changed. Now atoms of Carbon and Phosphorus will be bonded and carbon and oxygen will bond. Etc.

But I thought everything was unchangeable? You still haven't proven your point, not that it matters if you do or don't.

I'm just saying this plane of existence isn't reality. This is the material plane, I.E. composed of matter.
 
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But I thought everything was unchangeable? You still haven't proven your point, not that it matters if you do or don't.

I'm just saying this plane of existence isn't reality.
I used the wrong verb.


Matter cannot be created or destroyed. The constructs of matter being manipulated via energy is not an act of true creation or destruction.
 
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Matter cannot be created or destroyed. The constructs of matter being manipulated via energy is not an act of true creation or destruction.

I used the wrong verb.

Matter doesn't even exist, it's just energy at certain vibrations which creates a form. I.E matter. Einstein has already proven this. Something subject to change isn't real.

So how is this reality?
 

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Matter doesn't even exist, it's just energy at certain vibrations which creates a form. I.E matter. Einstein has already proven this. Something subject to change isn't real.

Energy exists. As long as we are on a similar plane we exist within said plane.
 

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uhm no energy cannot be created or destroyed....funny you quote Einstein but forgot that part....

Crystal good answers, keep your faith....that determination is rare these days...

For my input, I do believe that God exists and we are made to serve him. I will not go into a God vs No God debate, the choice really is yours but you have to live with the consequences is all.

There is a lot more but I will see what happens...
 

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Yeah that's partly true.

While paradoxical in science, in religion this would not be as traveling or effecting things from plane to plane is possible through a supernatural phenomena.

Ironic, seeing as how one of the greatest paradoxes is that of an omnipotent being.
 

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lordryoko said:
uhm no energy cannot be created or destroyed....funny you quote Einstein but forgot that part....

I see no quotation marks in my post? Yes energy is also created not destroyed though, and is subject to change.

McDonalds said:
While paradoxical in science, in religion it is not as one can travel from plane to plane through a supernatural phenomena.

Ironic, seeing as how one of the greatest paradoxes is that of an omnipotent being.

But only separated by vibrations? What do you exactly think a plane is?
 

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A separation of planes can describe several different phenomena.

Different planes are a whole realm running parallel to you our own. How could an omnipotent being not be able to witness this? We witness it everyday.
 

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uhm no energy cannot be created or destroyed by can change from one form to another......you really arguing this?
 

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uhm no energy cannot be created or destroyed by can change from one form to another......you really arguing this?

Bro your just illogical to quote you

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For my input, I do believe that God exists and we are made to serve him. I will not go into a God vs No God debate, the choice really is yours but you have to live with the consequences is all.

Yet energy wasn't created?
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Different planes are a whole realm running parallel to you our own. How could an omnipotent being not be able to witness this? We witness it everyday.
I didn't say the couldn't...
 

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what he's trying to say is;

If you saw a chair/computer/house/videogame etc, you'd come to the oh-so-obvious conclusion that someone, an intelligent designer, made it, as it's waaay to complex to just HAPPEN

So why is this not the case with the world, when we look at the elements, cells, plants, the ocean, mountains, animals, the laws of physics, gravity and planets? Why doesn't one accept that all this is waaay to complex to just HAPPEN?

Exactly this ^^
Anyway it's your own choice...but if the only reason you turned into an Atheist was because you couldn't get your friend back then that's just...:|
 

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Ah, yes my friend, you've chosen the right path.
 
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