Technically War Arc Guy Solo's Momoshiki

[TheSages456]

Did Momoshiki directly said Kurama chakra is bigger than Sasukes or you made that up.

All of the Biju possess more chakra than Sasuke.

Momoshiki & Kinshiki state after they absorb Gyuuki's chakra that there is an even greater reaction in the East, which was referring to Kurama. Sasuke not being a part of that statement puts the Gyuuki's chakra over Sasuke's.

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"To think that a high density chakra possesses a person in the form of a beast like this."

"In a place not far from here, there's a response of a far larger chakra. It's very likely the largest chakra which we've been seeking."

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Upon arriving at the stadium:

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"It's this one..."

"This one holds the strongest and biggest chakra in this seed-plot.

"My byakugan sees a fox.."

"Fox, come here."

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[NarutoX28]

That would mean RSM Naruto who possesses a power equivalent to the Juubi would have less chakra than Kurama, wouldn't it?

 

[NarutoX28]

Without any doubt. He was making circles around Madara neither naruto or sasuke has shown that speed.

RSM Naruto literally flickered over and sliced through Kaguya's arm with little reaction.

Regardless, RSM Naruto w/o Bijuu Mode managed to travel dozens of meters to Juubidara with little reaction and RSM Naruto w/ Bijuu Mode is even faster. Only reason Naruto hasn't shown feats such as dancing around Madara because Juubidara possessed the Shinju's power on top of what he already had.

Gai striking speed is unsurpassed in whole manga .With Asakujaku he lands literally more than 50 punches in 2-3 seconds.

That's not proof at all unless you're suggesting that 6G Gai has one of the highest strike speed in the manga.

Also his speef bends space while performing night Gai.

He is surely faster

That's a combination of speed and technique. Without his technique, he would not bend space.

No he's not. Not even unless you think he's faster than Kaguya.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

RSM Naruto literally flickered over and sliced through Kaguya's arm with little reaction.

Regardless, RSM Naruto w/o Bijuu Mode managed to travel dozens of meters to Juubidara with little reaction and RSM Naruto w/ Bijuu Mode is even faster. Only reason Naruto hasn't shown feats such as dancing around Madara because Juubidara possessed the Shinju's power on top of what he already had.



That's not proof at all unless you're suggesting that 6G Gai has one of the highest strike speed in the manga.



That's a combination of speed and technique. Without his technique, he would not bend space.

No he's not. Not even unless you think he's faster than Kaguya.

Thats a manga fact and stop blabering nonsense but instead of that post manga scans of someone showing striking speed that surpass Gai Asakujaku. If you cant that means Gai has the fastest striking speed.

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here Gai covers similar distance in a instant.

And You still didn´t post Naruto/Sasuke speed feat that bends space. Fact its his jutsu means nothing since every charachter is using Shunshin which is ninjutsu to increase his speed so its same like saying without shunshin technique they are not that fast.

 

[TheSages456]

That would mean RSM Naruto who possesses a power equivalent to the Juubi would have less chakra than Kurama, wouldn't it?

He possesses a power equivalent to a Ten Tails' Jinchuriki when he draws on Kurama's chakra+the remnants of the 8 other Biju and uses his body as a pillar.

Naruto's base reserves aren't worth acknowledging compared to Kurama's full reserves as made obvious over the entire course of the manga.

 

[NarutoX28]

Thats a manga fact and stop blabering nonsense but instead of that post manga scans of someone showing striking speed that surpass Gai Asakujaku. If you cant that means Gai has the fastest striking speed.

You haven't provided me proof. If you're suggesting that 6G Gai has the highest strike speed despite it not being enough to bypass Obito's Jin's reactions then I don't know what to tell you.

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Base RSM Naruto also covered dozens of meters in a mere instant. This proves absolutely nothing and isn't comparable to RSM Naruto blitzing a superior being such as Kaguya.

And You still didn´t post Naruto/Sasuke speed feat that bends space. Fact its his jutsu means nothing since every charachter is using Shunshin which is ninjutsu to increase his speed so its same like saying without shunshin technique they are not that fast.

As I said, it's a combination of his speed and technique. Without the technique, he would not be bending space.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

You haven't provided me proof. If you're suggesting that 6G Gai has the highest strike speed despite it not being enough to bypass Obito's Jin's reactions then I don't know what to tell you.



Base RSM Naruto also covered dozens of meters in a mere instant. This proves absolutely nothing and isn't comparable to RSM Naruto blitzing a superior being such as Kaguya.



As I said, it's a combination of his speed and technique. Without the technique, he would not be bending space.

post a feat of Naruto bending space and post a feat of someone who can land around 50 attacks in a blink of eye.

And gai failing to land a hit means : Opponent reflexes > Gai striking speed.

 

[NarutoX28]

post a feat of Naruto bending space and post a feat of someone who can land around 50 attacks in a blink of eye.

I can't because that's simply not other people's fighting style. Do not apply that logic when I said bending space was apart of the technique and Kaguya has never bent space with her own speed as well. Are you going to claim that 8G Gai is faster despite Kaguya being the Progenitor of all Chakra?

What I can tell you is post 6G Gai tagging a Juubi Jin because that's what's required to even have a high strike speed among High Kages/ God Tiers. If you can't, then Tobirama has higher strike speed than him and his is by far significantly lower than Naruto's and Sasuke's.

And gai failing to land a hit means : Opponent reflexes > Gai striking speed.

Nope, they managed to parry the attack meaning their strike speed was at least on Gai's level.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

I can't because that's simply not other people's fighting style. Do not apply that logic when I said bending space was apart of the technique and Kaguya has never bent space with her own speed as well. Are you going to claim that 8G Gai is faster despite Kaguya being the Progenitor of all Chakra?

What I can tell you is post 6G Gai tagging a Juubi Jin because that's what's required to even have a high strike speed among High Kages/ God Tiers. If you can't, then Tobirama has higher strike speed than him and his is by far significantly lower than Naruto's and Sasuke's.



Nope, they managed to parry the attack meaning their strike speed was at least on Gai's level.

no feats no party.

 

[NarutoX28]

no feats no party.

So no feats of 6G Gai being able to tag a Juubi Jin.

Looks like I win.

 

[Selan]

Gai stomps Momoshiki if he unleashes the 8th Gate: far, far, far faster than he is, plus physically stronger and attacks with taijutsu only. The best taijutsu in the series, by far. With the 7th Gate, Gai could defeat Momoshiki before Kinshiki absorption.

That's not proof at all unless you're suggesting that 6G Gai has one of the highest strike speed in the manga.

That's a combination of speed and technique. Without his technique, he would not bend space.

No he's not. Not even unless you think he's faster than Kaguya.

Which he has. Out of the God Tiers and his 7th Gate version, name someone able to physically strike faster than he does.

Gai with 8th Gate unreleased is definitely faster than Kaguya, by portrayal (space-bending speed) and feats. DMS Rikudo Kakashi is far faster than Kaguya too by what the manga clearly showed (he could struck her with a physical thrust before she could even react; not to mention his Kamui teleporting is faster than her S/T technique).

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And Rikudo Senjutsu Naruto is faster than she is, too. Kaguya is the 4th fastest character in the manga, above Rinnegan Sasuke (she easily dodged his Amenotejikara + Chidori attack, not to mention her S/T technique is too fast for him). She's definitely the most powerful character in the manga, that doesn't mean she does have to be the fastest too: feats clearly disprove this.

 

[NarutoX28]

Kaguya is the Progenitor of all Chakra and also possesses extra chakra due to IT + The Shinju.

She is by no means slower than 8G Gai who possesses far less chakra than she does.

 

[Selan]

Kaguya is the Progenitor of all Chakra and also possesses extra chakra due to IT + The Shinju.

She is by no means slower than 8G Gai who possesses far less chakra than she does.

More chakra doesn't necessary mean more speed. Part 1 Naruto has probably more chakra than Kakashi (out of Rikudo enhanced version) or Itachi. Is he faster than they are? Hell, not even remotely. Kisame has more chakra than either Kakashi (out of Rikudo enhanced version) or Itachi. A lot more chakra than they do. Is he faster than them, again? Not at all.