Technically Kurama Isn't The Strongest Tailed Beast!

[lowlyhuman]

For those who CBB to read - Read the Bold

Now as we all know, realistically the true strength of a tailed beast and his Jinchuuriki is not determined by the actual strength of the tailed beast, it is a combination of both of their abilities and their choice to work together that allows them to become powerful.

This removes the factor of the current fight during the war - as all tailed beasts (At least up until Edo was Released) have a Jinchuuriki to work with.

Now that is clarified we can begin to talk about the chakra available to the tailed beasts and what they really are.
I recently read a thread by @Blaze Release Wherein he determines that the tailed beasts are merely forms of spiritual energy - and do not have a physical body.

After understanding this theory, it is important to acknowledge that generally, the power of each tailed beast BY THEMSELVES (With no Jinchuuriki) is determined by the amount of tails each beast has.
This is further supported by the 8 Tails comment about the 9 tails - that the power of a Tailed beast is not determined only by the amount of tails but by the ability to work with their host. This informs us that Kurama is not working with his host at the time - he is weaker than other tailed beasts that do.
Therefore Kurama's Arrogance causes him to be weak (Alone)

In addition, the most important factor to acknowledge about Kurama's power is that his power was cut in half.
During the battle with the 4th Hokage (Minato), the 4th uses the Reaper Death Seal to seal half of the 9 Tails Chakra - evidently causing him to become halved in size.
The other half of this chakra was then sealed within Naruto - and remained with him for the rest of his life.

Now, to my knowledge, the other tailed beasts did not have any of their chakra sealed or removed from existence through being sealed - only the 9 tails lost any of his original chakra - which was sealed - halving him in size.

Therefore the chakra of the 9 tails has been halved whilst the other beast's chakra has not.
The question is up to whether or not you personally believe that the chakra of the 9 tails would be recreated in existence - (similar to what would happen if the tailed beast died with its host.)

The difference between a death and a seal, is that when the chakra is sealed - it becomes unavailable to the world - just as sealed souls are no longer available to be used in an Edo Tensei.

Therefore it is plausible to substantiate an argument that states that only half of Kurama's actual chakra is sealed - and therefore - available to Naruto, making Kurama, by himself, NOT THE STRONGEST in chakra either.

To my understanding the list might look (based on chakra) a little like this.

1, 2, 3, 4, (9), 5, 6, 7, 8
----------- 4.5------------

What do you think, and do you believe that Kurama regains his chakra over time / his being is regenerated as his chakra 'died' in the RDS?

Why use logic so literally Naruto is a work of fiction! That is the logical conclusion you need to grasp!

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

Btw kurama said that the tailed beasts strength is determined by their tails and NOT CHAKRA !... its like comparing kakashi who has low chackra reserves to for example zabuza who propably has more chakra than kakashi... i know its a lame example etc etc... and sorry for my bad english im a lil drunk... sorry again

Kurama wants to be the dtrongest and made that up if it was true gyuki would have destroyed the tailed beast

 

[Noki]

Kurama wants to be the dtrongest and made that up if it was true gyuki would have destroyed the tailed beast

you've got a point there... but I think its because he was outnumbered... but BM naruto washed the floor with them... so im totaly confused right now ;O

 

[Hyubasa]

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[l3m0npl3dg3]

I wonder why they have strength levels when it was said that all tailed beast chakra were near infinate

 

[NarutoFactoid]

PURE WIN!

Let this be a lesson to everyone. If your going to make a point. Always start with the word TECHNICALLY. Then! Don't even give people a break. Have your next words be, AS WE ALL KNOW. It won't matter what comes next. Take note people. Take note.

 

[loganwest]

The problem with your theory is that it assumes that the bijuu power level increases on a linear curve:

1 Tail = Power Level 1, 2 Tails = Power Level 2, 3T = PL3, etc.

When it could be on a much steeper curve with the power going up exponentially.

1 Tail = PL to the 1st power, 2T = PL to 2nd power, etc.

Then the nine tails power could be much higher, even after being cut in half by Minato.

Let's use a value of 5 for each tail as an example. So their power level would shake out like this:

1T = 5
2T = 5 x5 = 25
3T = 5 x 5 x 5 = 125
4T = 625
5T = 3,125
6T = 15,625
7T = 78,125
8T = 390,625
9T = 1,953,125

So even halved Kurama's power would still be considerably greater than the hachibi (976,562). Which would also explain why an inexperienced Naruto with very little of Kurama's chakra was able to beat Gaara.

It's all fairly simple math with a ton of variables.

 

[ky00b1]

Wait didn't Kurama just solo 5 tailed beast or was that another manga I was reading not sure....

This^^

 

[NarutoFactoid]

The problem with your theory is that it assumes that the bijuu power level increases on a linear curve:

1 Tail = Power Level 1, 2 Tails = Power Level 2, 3T = PL3, etc.

When it could be on a much steeper curve with the power going up exponentially.

1 Tail = PL to the 1st power, 2T = PL to 2nd power, etc.

Then the nine tails power could be much higher, even after being cut in half by Minato.

Let's use a value of 5 for each tail as an example. So their power level would shake out like this:

1T = 5
2T = 5 x5 = 25
3T = 5 x 5 x 5 = 125
4T = 625
5T = 3,125
6T = 15,625
7T = 78,125
8T = 390,625
9T = 1,953,125

So even halved Kurama's power would still be considerably greater than the hachibi (976,562). Which would also explain why an inexperienced Naruto with very little of Kurama's chakra was able to beat Gaara.

It's all fairly simple math with a ton of variables.

i know your on our side against this thread. but wtf man. powers of 10 not five. JESUS. think your good at math. no sir. your math may be simple math. but this is naruto. and your math is nowhere in sight! you should of just looked up exponentals and pasted the description.

 

[datbasianboy]

kuramas chackra regenerates over time. WHen the fourth sealed half of kuramas chakra it was only for that moment because he didnt have the strength to seal all of it, and it pretty obviouse that kurama is the strongest no matter what, kishi made kurama special hint the chakra cloak when he fuses with bm Naruto, out of all the tail beast kurama is the only one to do this

 

[PaperHERO]

Of'course Kurama isn't the strongest tailed beast. The Jūbi is.

 

[xBijuu]

Half of Kurama soloed 5 tailed beasts 0.0
Imagine of Minato sealed the whole thing inside Naruto.

 

[DonUchiha671]

His chakra was halved so Kurama wouldn't be to overwhelming for naruto to take in all at one time during the sealing. But doesn't Kurama just regenerate his chakra over time. Everybody does, why not Kurama? I think Kurama got all his chakra back over time and he is the strongest.

 

[Darkdeeds]

lol dude when it comes to Tailed Beasts Chakra = Strength. Their most powerful attacks are chakra based, and they really don't do much else

Most ninja's moves in naruto are chakra based are you saying that a ninja's chakra pool is what ultimately determines his strength? I don't think so because that would mean naruto before sage mode is better then kakashi which is surely not true. Just because a move is chakra based doesn't mean the amount of chakra you have determines the strength of the moves you use.

If what you said was true rasengan = rasenshuriken when thats not true

 

[LBeezy]

I'm really surprised this thread is still going.
Kurama IS the strongest Tailed Beast! End of discussion.

 

[Naruto Boss]

his chakra grew back over time and yes he is the strongest bijuu with or without a host

 

[Mystery God]

It's hard to believe that Kurama regenerated his Yin chakra. If he did... he should have grown in size as well.

You can see here that he dwarfs those houses.

Kurama(100%):

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Here... you can see that Kurama looks the same as when Minato took his Yin chakra.

Kurama(50%):

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This is after Minato took his Yin chakra.

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This is Kurama(50%) vs. Naruto. You can see that he looks the same as when Minato sealed him.

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Kurama(50%) Comparison:

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Later, despite shrinking a lot after having its Yin chakra sealed, it still remained a massive entity as its claw dwarfed Minato and Kushina. When Naruto separated Kurama from its chakra, its entire physique became visibly emaciated, but it later regained its healthy look after consuming a certain amount of Naruto's chakra while he was using its own.-src narutopedia

 

[Cascade]

Does nobody read the OP?

Kurama w/o Naruto = Less than other TB,
Kurama's chakra was SEALED it cannot regenerate
Read the op before you post, otherwise you just look stupid.

 

[spencer868]

but he still wiped the floor with six other tailed beasts with the help of Bee

 

[Kwalker394]

Wait didn't Kurama just solo 5 tailed beast or was that another manga I was reading not sure....

This ^