Team Speed vs Edo Madara

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team 1: Edo Madara (Perfect Susanoo and Edo regen restricted)
Team 2: 7G Gai, KCM Minato, Ay w/ Backpack Onoki

Who wins?
 

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Team can't even do anything significant to Madara's V4 Susanoo. The only things that would work are Jinton and Hiraishin, but Hiraishin is iffy and Jinton's prep will always be interrupted. Throw in widescale Mokuton like Forest Tree World and I'm pretty sure Madara would take the win.
 

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Team can't even do anything significant to Madara's V4 Susanoo. The only things that would work are Jinton and Hiraishin, but Hiraishin is iffy and Jinton's prep will always be interrupted. Throw in widescale Mokuton like Forest Tree World and I'm pretty sure Madara would take the win.

Onoki with Kurama cloak........
 

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Then also the fact that Hirudora destroyed entirely V3 do it'd do heavy damage to V4. Onoki handles the Mokuton like in canon and with more chakra and thus more firepower. With KM, Minato can hand all of them enough chakra to make their jutsu stronger as well as bigger. Once Madara is reduced to dust, Minato tags him and seals him.
 

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Team can't even do anything significant to Madara's V4 Susanoo. The only things that would work are Jinton and Hiraishin, but Hiraishin is iffy and Jinton's prep will always be interrupted. Throw in widescale Mokuton like Forest Tree World and I'm pretty sure Madara would take the win.

Are you talking about the Susano'O he shows before stabilized PS? If so then that's not V4. Its PS, as stated by Madara.

OT: Team takes it
 

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With no PS team Need for Speed can actually win this...
 

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Team Speed might actually win this when Minato can share Kurama Chakra.
 

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Are you talking about the Susano'O he shows before stabilized PS? If so then that's not V4. Its PS, as stated by Madara.

OT: Team takes it

He never directly called it PS. He said it's time to meet the Perfect Susanoo, and then he said "it's not finished yet". Meaning the final product is what he called PS.

Then also the fact that Hirudora destroyed entirely V3 do it'd do heavy damage to V4.

Destroying a V3 smaller than Hachibi isn't evidence it'll do anything significant to a V4 larger than Full Kurama.
 

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He never directly called it PS. He said it's time to meet the Perfect Susanoo, and then he said "it's not finished yet". Meaning the final product is what he called PS.



Destroying a V3 smaller than Hachibi isn't evidence it'll do anything significant to a V4 larger than Full Kurama.

It isn't V4, it was non-stabilized PS as DA said. What he meant by the "I'm not finished" part was the stabilization part.
 

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It isn't V4, it was non-stabilized PS as DA said. What he meant by the "I'm not finished" part was the stabilization part.

I know. It's not PS until it's stablized. Not sure why we'd call that PS, when it shares the same characteristics as Sasuke's Armored Susanoo, which we don't call his PS. And if that isn't his V4, then what is his V4?
 

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I know. It's not PS until it's stablized. Not sure why we'd call that PS, when it shares the same characteristics as Sasuke's Armored Susanoo, which we don't call his PS. And if that isn't his V4, then what is his V4?

Actually you might be right.

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I know. It's not PS until it's stablized. Not sure why we'd call that PS, when it shares the same characteristics as Sasuke's Armored Susanoo, which we don't call his PS. And if that isn't his V4, then what is his V4?

Don't know, he probably didn't show it. V3 is more agile, and the durability up probably wasn't worth it in the situations he was in. Though he called the unstable version PS in Viz. He says "Not Quite Yet" after Mei says "The True Susano'O?!", but he directly calls this PS, as that's the form its in when he says "Time to Meet the Perfect Susano'O"

Plus Sasuke's PS is much larger than his V3, while unstabalized PS didn't change size after stabilizing. Even if it did, the difference is negligible.
 

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I think Madara called his Perfect Sussanoo because his v4 now has legs then it did at VOTE. Makes much more sense
 

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Don't know, he probably didn't show it. V3 is more agile, and the durability up probably wasn't worth it in the situations he was in. Though he called the unstable version PS in Viz. He says "Not Quite Yet" after Mei says "The True Susano'O?!", but he directly calls this PS, as that's the form its in when he says "Time to Meet the Perfect Susano'O"

Plus Sasuke's PS is much larger than his V3, while unstabalized PS didn't change size after stabilizing. Even if it did, the difference is negligible.

Doubt it. It shares all the same characteristics that Sasuke's V4 has, but the only major difference is size. "Time to Meet the Perfect Susanoo" could easily mean that it's time to bring out PS. Mei even saying "The True Susanoo?!" with Madara replying "Not quite yet", pretty much means that the level she was referring to isn't the true Susanoo, and the true Susanoo is Perfect Susanoo. Thus V4 is not PS.

Sasuke's V4 probably appears much smaller than his PS unlike Madara's V4 because Sasuke's V4 was shown only twice in the whole entire Manga, and that was when he had first awakened EMS. Madara has shown that the size can be changed, like with most Susanoo variants. So Sasuke probably couldn't/didn't use it's full size.
 

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Then also the fact that Hirudora destroyed entirely V3 do it'd do heavy damage to V4. Onoki handles the Mokuton like in canon and with more chakra and thus more firepower. With KM, Minato can hand all of them enough chakra to make their jutsu stronger as well as bigger. Once Madara is reduced to dust, Minato tags him and seals him.

Madara's v4 is on another level add the fact that Hirudora is a wind pressure punch his giant katon would roast it. Onoki is defeated by 5 wood bushin with preta path his rock constructs fall victim to any standing susanoo or mokuton preta shits on his jinton Onoki's flight is not a problem because his best long ranged move is absorbed and he's a sitting duck for a giant standing v4 susanoo which has giant leaps. Kurama cloak does nothing for gai katon still > Hirudora Large scale Mokuton blocks it aswell and once his gates wear off kurama cloak or not he gets splattered by various standing susanoo's Ay is even worst he still cannot get past a v3 he gets caught up in mokuton then genjutsu ends him. Minato is fodder has nothing to bypass v4 standing his kmc avatar cannot last a full battle wood forest sinks his ftg and marking, preta absorbs his cloak. Team also had no answer for Meteor spam.

Madara med diff
 

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Wood clones troll... rofl. You literally can't beat someone that strong who has wood clones.. without a ****ing EMS or matching that power.. Its impossible.

They also don't have a medical ninja to carry them through injuries.

Majority of them are killed like this:

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They have no chance against Edo Madara.
 
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Madara wins this high diff
 
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