Team Muscle versus Team Blindness

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Team Muscle consists of:
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Whereas Team Blindness is made of the following losers:

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Location: Interior of turtle island, near the waterfall. But the entire island can be used.

Distance: Thirty meters

Mindeset: IC

Intel: Full for both sides.

Conditions: Kakashi is in the same state he was when arriving to battle 'Tobi'. Itachi is fresh and without disease.

Restrictions: Kakashi isn't kamui'ing in the first minute, regardless of this restriction. But for the sake of ending the argument, Kakashi can't use Kamui for the bare minimum of a minute.
 

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Team blindness wins.

Kakashi can leave a clone and hide underground for a minute then resurface and quick scope them both.

Itachi is the defense to the obvious AT and GSB moves they would use via his final Susanoo.
 

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Itachi and Kakashi med difficulty.

Itachi uses Amaterasu on Kisame face to end him off quickly. Kakashi and Itachi proceed to gang up on Gai.

Remember this is all possible is TAC restrict 8 gates.
 
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You cant be serious ,are you !!?
You didn't restrict the 8 the gate yet you restricted kakashi from using kamui snipe at the first minute
Kisame ends itachi while 7 the gate gai would be enough to end kakashi at this minute
 

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Itachi and Kakashi med difficulty.

Itachi uses Amaterasu on Kisame face to end him off quickly. Kakashi and Itachi proceed to gang up on Kakashi.

Remember this is all possible is TAC restrict 8 gates.
I guess kisame can counter Amatrasu by absorbing its chakra through samehada,
Think about it ,kisame is the perfect counter to itachi
Kisame can merge with samehada and then close his eyes and fight with just the sensing abilities so itachi won't be able to cast a genjutsu on him
Itachi has no way of escaping kisame's great water prison which covers so big area
 

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Guy and Kisame win this high diff

--Without kamui,in the fiirst minute, kakashi gets severed in half by a gated guys kick, or eaten up bby kisame and his 1000 sharks

--Once Kakashi is down, Guy uses hirudoora to bust itachiis susanoo and takes him out, whilst kisame absorbs most of itachis arsenal or allow guy an opening through subterreanean voyage,
 

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Kakashi isn't Kamui sniping in the first minute, he never has started a battle with it and he has no reason to here. It's less of a restriction and more of getting a dumb argument out of the way. Anyways, obviously the eighth gate is restricted. Did not know it needed to be put down. Otherwise there is no argument.
 

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Kakashi isn't Kamui sniping in the first minute, he never has started a battle with it and he has no reason to here. It's less of a restriction and more of getting a dumb argument out of the way. Anyways, obviously the eighth gate is restricted. Did not know it needed to be put down. Otherwise there is no argument.
The way you made the match-up is whats causing the confusion. First you gave each team full intel on the others abilities. Next you gave both teams plot induced stupidity/P.I.S (I.C. Mindset). The latter defeats the purpose of the former.

I.C. Kakashi and Itachi never use MS moves right off the bat. Gai never starts with Gates right off the bat and neither does Kisame with Suiton. However with full intel on the opponents abilities one could argue that if I.C., they would use it like that anyway because they are aware of the threat the other poses and can't defeat them without anything else.

For example, a Kakashi who experienced Tobis abilities just twice with only a vague sense of how they actually worked back then would use Kamui on him right off the bat:

An I.C. Kakashi with full intel on people like Gai and Kisame would certainly replicate this same scenario.

Gai with only knowing Taijutsu works on Madara opened 7G and rushed him right off the bat. Gai didn't do that because he had full intel but because he understood the threat Madara posed in general like everyone else did so he went all out at his maximum level he could achieve (without suicide of course) and one could argue against Itachi and Kakashi + full intel on them, he'd do the same thing.
 

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I guess kisame can counter Amatrasu by absorbing its chakra through samehada,
Think about it ,kisame is the perfect counter to itachi
Kisame can merge with samehada and then close his eyes and fight with just the sensing abilities so itachi won't be able to cast a genjutsu on him
Itachi has no way of escaping kisame's great water prison which covers so big area
Not when it's used on his face to burn his eyes out he isn't reacting to either. Samehada hit be after absorbing regular Katon Amaterasu would run Samehada off. Plus if he does absorb it and tries to heal his face Totsuka through the stomach gg.

Guy and Kisame win this high diff

--Without kamui,in the fiirst minute, kakashi gets severed in half by a gated guys kick, or eaten up bby kisame and his 1000 sharks

--Once Kakashi is down, Guy uses hirudoora to bust itachiis susanoo and takes him out, whilst kisame absorbs most of itachis arsenal or allow guy an opening through subterreanean voyage,
Not when he can distract and throw him via clones.( ). Kakashi Rakiri dogs counter 1k sharks. Yata blocks Hirudora and it's very questionable if Hirudora can take out a v4 Susanoo anyways.

Also how can you restrict Kamui but not 8th gate? Bias much.
 

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Not when it's used on his face to burn his eyes out he isn't reacting to either. Samehada hit be after absorbing regular Katon Amaterasu would run Samehada off. Plus if he does absorb it and tries to heal his face Totsuka through the stomach gg.


Not when he can distract and throw him via clones.( ). Kakashi Rakiri dogs counter 1k sharks. Yata blocks Hirudora and it's very questionable if Hirudora can take out a v4 Susanoo anyways.

Also how can you restrict Kamui but not 8th gate? Bias much.
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Team 1 mid difficulty. Mid day tiger has no check, and plows through team 2 defense, unless Yata is being considered. Then again it negates nature transformation, if I'm not mistaken.
 

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Team 1 mid difficulty. Mid day tiger has no check, and plows through team 2 defense, unless Yata is being considered. Then again it negates nature transformation, if I'm not mistaken.
It repelled Sasuke blade attack back and stopped paper bombs which both aren't element related.
 
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