[VS] Team Minato vs Team 7

[Dark Riku]

Team 7 wins easily.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Team Minato loses high difficulty. Kakashi kills himself and then Kamui is hagoromo chakra and obito eyes inside of Minato which would mean a kamui sniped Hagoromo buffed BM PS Cloak and ftg.

 

[KidGamer65]

Itachi solos GG

Seriously, the intel and starting distance would matter a lot
But kamui shuriken alongside juubitos firepower would overwhelm sasuke
Along with the fact that kakashi and juubitos attacks have a much larger range than sasukes S/T

Kakashi's attacks don't have a larger range than Sasuke's S/T. His biggest AoE attack is probably going to be Perfect's Susanoo's shockwaves, but those can be tanked, or he can teleport behind Kakashi, or he can teleport Kakashi to him and strike.

Kamui Shuriken are intercepted with Enton Projectiles, lit on fire with Amaterasu, or evaded, and Juubito has no relevant firepower besides his Juubidama, which won't ever go off as Sasuke can cut the tree.

 

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Kakashi's attacks don't have a larger range than Sasuke's S/T. His biggest AoE attack is probably going to be Perfect's Susanoo's shockwaves, but those can be tanked, or he can teleport behind Kakashi, or he can teleport Kakashi to him and strike.

Kamui Shuriken are intercepted with Enton Projectiles, lit on fire with Amaterasu, or evaded, and Juubito has no relevant firepower besides his Juubidama, which won't ever go off as Sasuke can cut the tree.

Stop with this non-sense. Obito could simply cover Kakashi Susanoo in TSB's. Then it would be an absolute win for Kakashi low difficulty. Juubidama's aren't needed here.

 

[KidGamer65]

Stop with this non-sense. Obito could simply cover Kakashi Susanoo in TSB's. Then it would be an absolute win for Kakashi low difficulty. Juubidama's aren't needed here.

When you can get me feats of the Gudo Dama not only being able to block attacks as strong as Sasuke's PS swings, (Which is impossible since they were being cracked by Naruto's Senpo Bijuu Dama) and when you can get me feats of the Gudo Dama being able to stretch to become that large, then we can talk.

 

[TRE MERCER]

When you can get me feats of the Gudo Dama not only being able to block attacks as strong as Sasuke's PS swings, (Which is impossible since they were being cracked by Naruto's Senpo Bijuu Dama) and when you can get me feats of the Gudo Dama being able to stretch to become that large, then we can talk.

Did you forget that Kakashi susanoo is buffed as well adding TSB will be adding more Yin yang chakra/Hagoromo's TSB has no definite size.(

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). This TSB Is far larger than Sasuke susanoo. Mind you this Susanoo on it's knees was the size as BM Kurama.(

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[KidGamer65]

Did you forget that Kakashi susanoo is buffed as well adding TSB will be adding more Yin yang chakra/Hagoromo's TSB has no definite size.(

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). This TSB Is far larger than Sasuke susanoo. Mind you this Susanoo on it's knees was the size as BM Kurama.(

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). Not to mention this TSB shield was huge even compared to Kurama Susanoo fusion.(

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Kakashi's Susanoo is buffed with a portion of the chakra Obito stole from Madara. Nothing compared to half of Rikudo's power, so Kakashi's Susanoo gets raped.

Gudo Dama not having a set size doesn't meant that it has no size limit.

Kakashi's Susanoo is far far larger than Naruto's Avatar or Sasuke's Senjutsu Susanoo, the largest Gudo Dama I've seen from Obito is the shield, and that's barely bigger than Naruto's Avatar, let alone Perfect Susanoo. Not to mention it was only taller, it still has to be big enough to actually wrap around the whole Susanoo. No feats say it can do this.

@bold: Lol, no clue what you are talking about here, but its probably fanfic.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kakashi's Susanoo is buffed with a portion of the chakra Obito stole from Madara. Nothing compared to half of Rikudo's power, so Kakashi's Susanoo gets raped.

Gudo Dama not having a set size doesn't meant that it has no size limit.

Kakashi's Susanoo is far far larger than Naruto's Avatar or Sasuke's Senjutsu Susanoo, the largest Gudo Dama I've seen from Obito is the shield, and that's barely bigger than Naruto's Avatar, let alone Perfect Susanoo. Not to mention it was only taller, it still has to be big enough to actually wrap around the whole Susanoo. No feats say it can do this.

@bold: Lol, no clue what you are talking about here, but its probably fanfic.

It's not much larger than Naruto bm shroud it's clear that his Susanoo is even smaller than Sasuke.(

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). Yes the shield was the size of Kurama avatar and did you forget he have the nonuboku sword which is pretty huge it's self.

Truth-Seeking Balls are spheres of black, malleable chakra that are composed of at least four different nature transformations,[1] as well as natural energy,[2][3] and with complete mastery are capable of negating ninjutsu.

Juubi Jin nature energy is similar Kaguya's confirmed here.(

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[KidGamer65]

It's not much larger than Naruto bm shroud it's clear that his Susanoo is even smaller than Sasuke.(

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). Yes the shield was the size of Kurama avatar and did you forget he have the nonuboku sword which is pretty huge it's self.

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Kakashi's PS is much bigger than the Bijuu.

I never said it wasn't, I said it was barely larger. So the Gudo Dama aren't completely covering something much bigger, nor would it help anyway.

1. Gudo Dama were getting cracked by Senjutsu enhanced Bijuu Dama. Sasuke cuts through them as if they weren't there.

2. If Susanoo is covered in Gudo Dama, then how will Kakashi even see? The Gudo Dama aren't transparent.

Truth-Seeking Balls are spheres of black, malleable chakra that are composed of at least four different nature transformations,[1] as well as natural energy,[2][3] and with complete mastery are capable of negating ninjutsu.

Once again, fails to prove they can stretch as far as they want.

Juubi Jin nature energy is similar Kaguya's confirmed here.(

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). So adding tsb to Susanoo would be like adding Kaguya chakra to Hagoromo's. Kakashi already has Hagoromo chakra sage confirmed his chakra plus Juubi chakra is Kaguya's chakra now you get it.

Lol. Coating the Gudo Dama with Susanoo doesn't merge them together, its pretty much the same as someone putting on armor,
so that renders this whole thing moot right here. Can we not start getting into fanfic?

-Gudo Dama and Susanoo merging together to make a stronger defense=Fanfic.

 

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Kakashi's PS is much bigger than the Bijuu.

I never said it wasn't, I said it was barely larger. So the Gudo Dama aren't completely covering something much bigger, nor would it help anyway.

1. Gudo Dama were getting cracked by Senjutsu enhanced Bijuu Dama. Sasuke cuts through them as if they weren't there.

2. If Susanoo is covered in Gudo Dama, then how will Kakashi even see? The Gudo Dama aren't transparent.




Once again, fails to prove they can stretch as far as they want.



Lol. Coating the Gudo Dama with Susanoo doesn't merge them together, its pretty much the same as someone putting on armor,
so that renders this whole thing moot right here. Can we not start getting into fanfic?

-Gudo Dama and Susanoo merging together to make a stronger defense=Fanfic.

You have a point though in other scans it does look much smaller. Actually it's not fanfic because combining chakra has been done multiple times. Naruto and Sasuke did it not to mention the Gokage did it as well.

 

[KidGamer65]

You have a point though in other scans it does look much smaller. Actually it's not fanfic because combining chakra has been done multiple times. Naruto and Sasuke did it not to mention the Gokage did it as well.

Combining chakra=/=Combining Gudo Dama and Susanoo.

Susanoo is pure chakra, Gudo Dama has some sort of a physical form. Kurama's Avatar and Susanoo were able to perfectly fuse together because they are both constructs made of pure chakra.

Kurama is made of chakra, yet has a physical form, and he wasn't merged with Madara's Susanoo, he was simply armored with it.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Yes because minato would be non factor
And sasukes not beating the duo together

Bold: I was just making sure. I couldn't take anyone serious that thought Minato made any type of difference here (Naruto could even rip Kurama out of him).

Provide some arguments and i'll counter.​

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[ARGUS]

Kakashi's attacks don't have a larger range than Sasuke's S/T.

@Bold - Lol what, Sasukes S/T range is much smaller than the range of kaakshis kamui

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Kamui on the other hand, operates on kakashis LoS and based on what we have seen it has a much higher range than sasukes S/T thats for sure,

His biggest AoE attack is probably going to be Perfect's Susanoo's shockwaves, but those can be tanked, or he can teleport behind Kakashi, or he can teleport Kakashi to him and strike.

Sasuke is not teleporting long distances that easily,
PS shockwaves can be tanked, but through kakashis intangibility alongside his rikudo buffed PS, he can still stall sasuke long enough for juubito to set up his Juubi TBB
and thanks to kakashis intangibility he doesnt have to worry abouut a friendly fire,

Kamui Shuriken are intercepted with Enton Projectiles, lit on fire with Amaterasu, or evaded, and Juubito has no relevant firepower besides his Juubidama, which won't ever go off as Sasuke can cut the tree.

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if not even more,
--Enton Projectiles are simplly getting sent to the kamui dimensio once they collide, they are not doing anything,
--Amatearsu lighting them up is rather useless as well, since the shuriken would still continue to proceed and attack sasukes PS,

Sasuke is also not cutting the tree as easily, seeing how kakashi can stall him quite well, whilst juubito sets his tree inside the barrier, thereby protecting the tree, from sasukes attacks for a brief moment, (as the TBB wont take that long to charge up, and fire off),
annd then releases the barrier and shoots them right at sasuke,

Bold: I was just making sure. I couldn't take anyone serious that thought Minato made any type of difference here (Naruto could even rip Kurama out of him).​

Im not sure about Naruto ripping the kyuubi out of him, but Yea Minato isnt making any difference at all,

Provide some arguments and i'll counter.

Itachi Solos GG,
with that being said, i think i just solod the thread,

 

[Unorthodox]

Team Minato loses high difficulty. Kakashi kills himself and then Kamui is hagoromo chakra and obito eyes inside of Minato which would mean a kamui sniped Hagoromo buffed BM PS Cloak and ftg.

Team Minato gets Murderd Naruto could solo 5 BDFRS kills the latter before Kakashi even kills himself witch is a pitiful argument also Obito would only be able to use long range kamui as he cannot phase through things in juubi jin form he gets blitz Naruto can provide much stronger chakra cloaks to his team so that argument is shitted on.

 

[madvictory]

Bad news: I am leaving the Versus Section for quite a while when it comes to making threads. I got threatened so I will need to temporarily back off.
On topic: Team Minato. It just had more raw power.

 

[KidGamer65]

@Bold - Lol what, Sasukes S/T range is much smaller than the range of kaakshis kamui

Yes. Because Kamui only warps what Kakashi is looking at, if Sasuke instantly teleports out of that barrier, then Kamui isn't going to hit.

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Kamui on the other hand, operates on kakashis LoS and based on what we have seen it has a much higher range than sasukes S/T thats for sure,

The rest isn't relevant to my main point.

Sasuke is not teleporting long distances that easily

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Doesn't need to.

PS shockwaves can be tanked, but through kakashis intangibility alongside his rikudo buffed PS, he can still stall sasuke long enough for juubito to set up his Juubi TBB

Its either intangibility or PS, he can't do both. His PS gets torn through as if it didn't even exist. Half of Rikudo's power>>>Portion of it, so PS is absolute fodder to Sasuke. He'd tear right through him and get to Obito and cut down the tree, or he'd use his Rinnegan to teleport directly to the tree and cut Obito up.

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if not even more,
--Enton Projectiles are simplly getting sent to the kamui dimensio once they collide, they are not doing anything,

The point obviously flew right over your head. If Enton Projectiles intercept the Shuriken, they are countered as the Shuriken warp them, and disappear.

--Amatearsu lighting them up is rather useless as well, since the shuriken would still continue to proceed and attack sasukes PS,

Same thing as above. It'd warp it, it wouldn't continue..it warps anything it comes in contact with. Unless you are going to argue it doesn't come in contact with the flame.

Sasuke is also not cutting the tree as easily, seeing how kakashi can stall him quite well, whilst juubito sets his tree inside the barrier, thereby protecting the tree, from sasukes attacks for a brief moment, (as the TBB wont take that long to charge up, and fire off),
annd then releases the barrier and shoots them right at sasuke,

Kakashi can't stall him. To stall him he'd have to hold him back. Intangibility lets him go right for Obito and PS is fodder in comparison, and Bijuu Dama does take that long to charge.

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First one is the start, second is the finish.

You do know that Sasuke can teleport into the barrier right? Lol, that isn't even going to help. Not to mention if its out of his range, he can:

A) Fly close enough with his high speed Susanoo and then teleport.

B) Swap places with Obito (Which lets him exceed his range limits) and then cut the tree up.

Obito gets cut up with PS and Kakashi gets blitzed with Rinnegan. Sasuke beats them both.

 

[Haizaki]

Team 7 takes it med diff at best

 

[ARGUS]

Yes. Because Kamui only warps what Kakashi is looking at, if Sasuke instantly teleports out of that barrier, then Kamui isn't going to hit.

Obito doesnt need to make the barrier as large as he did in canon,
he would only put himself and the tree inside the barrier to prevent himself from sasukes attacks,
and can release the barrier and fire off TBB right towards SAsuke,
and with the vast AOE of Juubi TBB as well as kakashi being intangible to prevent himself,,
means that Sasuke is not evading them, as the TBB would result in his PS geetting destroyed,

Sasuke is not instantly teleporting to evade the barrages of TBB (which Obito can still fire off)
You still havent proven ur claim on how Sasuke is teleporting..
his range of S/T is quite minimal which is bypassed by the AOE of juubi TBB, on top of the fact that i nevver stated that sasuke would be inside the barrier,
Kakashis kamui range which is based on his LoS is still larger than Sasukes S/T and thats what I am claiming,

The rest isn't relevant to my main point

Sasukes S/T range is still much smaller than Kamuis

Doesn't need to.

He would, as once his PS is destroyed, he is getting killed

Its either intangibility or PS, he can't do both. His PS gets torn through as if it didn't even exist. Half of Rikudo's power>>>Portion of it, so PS is absolute fodder to Sasuke. He'd tear right through him and get to Obito and cut down the tree, or he'd use his Rinnegan to teleport directly to the tree and cut Obito up.

His PS doesnt need to be as good as sasuke,
and i am well aware that kakashis PS would get torn apart by Juubitos DC but kakaashi himself would still be safe even if his PS is destroyed,
moreover juubitos TSB defense is still high enough to let him tank atleast one slash of SAsukes PS, and he can also use his chakra arms to attack Sasukes PS, as well as TSB based attacks to damage it,

furthermore, it wont take obito too long to fire off the TBB, and with kakashi being able to attack sasuke through his own PS, this will allow obito more than enough time to bust his PS open

Sasukes PS slashes have more or less the same execution speed as the TBB and going by ur premise you have sasuke teleporting in the barrier once he sees it the TBB charging, and with that being said, The TBB would be released and with sasuke being inside the barrier it is just GG

The point obviously flew right over your head. If Enton Projectiles intercept the Shuriken, they are countered as the Shuriken warp them, and disappear.

how did it fly through my head????
that entity is most likely quite durable,
as for ur point, Enton projectiles sure,

Kakashi can't stall him. To stall him he'd have to hold him back. Intangibility lets him go right for Obito and PS is fodder in comparison, and Bijuu Dama does take that long to charge.

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Why exactly cant kakashi stall him??
his intangibility helps him counter sasukes attacks quite well, and he now definitely has the reflexes to help him execute his jutsus on time as well, seeing how he managed to hit kaguya through his kamui raikiri
and his Kamui warps enable him to warp off Sasukes portion of PS as well,
unless you think that Sasukes PS is far far more durable than kaguyas chakra entity, that it will be unfazed by the warps, which is not the case here,

moreover, the onslaught between kakashi and sasuke would allow obito more than enough time to fire off his TBB
unless you think that sasuke can beat kakashi within seconds and before obito even charges his TBB, then Lol

furthermore Obito doesnt need to charge up his TBB to that extent, he can simply fire off barrages of TBB (which doesnt take that long since the TBB are not as concentrated)
unlesss u think that a juubi jin cant do that.

You do know that Sasuke can teleport into the barrier right? Lol, that isn't even going to help. Not to mention if its out of his range, he can:
A) Fly close enough with his high speed Susanoo and then teleport.

Then he most likely loses his susanoo, since he hasnt shown to teleport with his PS
and without his susanoo he wont be able to prevent himself from juubitos TSB based attacks as well as his TBB
and with kakashi being able to send his kamui shuriken to his dimension and he can release them right at sasuke, and with their AOE sasuke is still getting damaged
or Kakashi can simply kamui himself in the barrier and eradicate sasuke (if he doest have his PS) through his PS slashes.

B) Swap places with Obito (Which lets him exceed his range limits) and then cut the tree up.

How is he swapping places with Obito, if his range for S/T is bypassed,???? as stated by you above,
even if he swaps places with obito whilst he is within the barrier, obito can still use his TSB based attacks and chakra arms to stall sasuke

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and Juubito also has the speed to dodge the slash, similar to how kaguya did in the above scan,
all of this can be done to enable the TBB to fire, and breach his susanoo

Obito gets cut up with PS and Kakashi gets blitzed with Rinnegan. Sasuke beats them both.

No he doesnt,
Obito alone gives him a mid/high diff at least,
Kakashi is not getting blitzed if hes not within his range of S/T, and even then his reflexes have enhanced quite alot,
Obito can also stall sasuke through his TSB bassed attacks and chakra arms to allow him to fiire off Juubi TBB, (which dont have to be as large as how they were in canon, meaning that they wont take too long) therefore destroying sasukes PS, and allowinng the duo to finish him off, ,

 

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all im saying is that Sasuke is insanely fast when his susanoo is top speed veiw the following scans

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Madara was much higher than the juubi's tbb you can see the earth curve in the distance

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Sasuke was higher than then all the chibaku tensei's got to the ground in 2 manga pages

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i see no reason why he cant get out of the damas Aoe especially when he can add he s/t to give him speed boost out of there

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito doesnt need to make the barrier as large as he did in canon,
he would only put himself and the tree inside the barrier to prevent himself from sasukes attacks,
and can release the barrier and fire off TBB right towards SAsuke,
and with the vast AOE of Juubi TBB as well as kakashi being intangible to prevent himself,,
means that Sasuke is not evading them, as the TBB would result in his PS geetting destroyed,

If Obito can fit in there, Sasuke will have room to fit in there as well, so once again, no. The tree gets cut up. Not to mention Sasuke won't be twiddling his thumbs while Obito preps a barrier and the tree, especially since he can blitz Obito at any time. Whether its by teleporting there himself or teleporting Obito to him.

The rest of your post goes with the counter I have. Bijuu Dama isn't happening when Sasuke can cut the tree.

Sasuke is not instantly teleporting to evade the barrages of TBB (which Obito can still fire off)

Obito can't fire barrages of Bijuu Dama without his tree, which gets destroyed before it ever gets near charging completion.

You still havent proven ur claim on how Sasuke is teleporting..
his range of S/T is quite minimal which is bypassed by the AOE of juubi TBB, on top of the fact that i nevver stated that sasuke would be inside the barrier,
Kakashis kamui range which is based on his LoS is still larger than Sasukes S/T and thats what I am claiming,

I've already explained that. If Kakashi tries to warp him with Kamui, he warps and blitzes Kakashi, and kills him. There is nothing to explain. Sasuke is faster than Kakashi, and his jutsu is faster. So he evades it.

Sasukes S/T range is still much smaller than Kamuis

Ok?

He would, as once his PS is destroyed, he is getting killed

His PS won't get destroyed though.

His PS doesnt need to be as good as sasuke,

It needs to be not fodder in comparison to actually distract him. It is, so it gets wrecked.

and i am well aware that kakashis PS would get torn apart by Juubitos DC but kakaashi himself would still be safe even if his PS is destroyed,

Why are we even talking about Juubito's DC here? I'm only talking about Sasuke. He tears through Kakashi and goes right for the Tree.

moreover juubitos TSB defense is still high enough to let him tank atleast one slash of SAsukes PS, and he can also use his chakra arms to attack Sasukes PS, as well as TSB based attacks to damage it,

His Gudo Dama was getting cracked by Senpo Bijuu Dama. Sasuke's PS cut through Meteors that dwarfed multiple Mountain Ranges when broken apart, and they were CT orbs, so they are more durable than Mountains of the same size. One slash of his PS rapes Obito's Gudo Dama shields.

His Gudo Dama based attacks aren't doing anything.

-Power wise, a Ribcage Susanoo's hand can

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a beam of it. Rikudo PS would tank any explosion.

-Hax wise, Sasuke's Jutsu use Rikudo's Chakra, so they can't be negated by Onmyoton.

And the Kurama Avatar slapped away his chakra arms, Sasuke cuts right through them.

furthermore, it wont take obito too long to fire off the TBB, and with kakashi being able to attack sasuke through his own PS, this will allow obito more than enough time to bust his PS open

have already shown the opposite, and have already countered Kakashi being some kind of distraction.

Sasukes PS slashes have more or less the same execution speed as the TBB and going by ur premise you have sasuke teleporting in the barrier once he sees it the TBB charging, and with that being said, The TBB would be released and with sasuke being inside the barrier it is just GG

Dafuq? Are we reading the same manga here? You and I both know that the bold is nothing but nonsense. Come on now. I've shown two pages, from start to finish of the Bijuu Dama, yet you are telling me Sasuke did

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in the same amount of time? As if swinging a sword would take that long anyway.

With that being said. Sasuke teleports to the tree, or flies to the tree, and cuts it up.

how did it fly through my head????
that entity is most likely quite durable,
as for ur point, Enton projectiles sure,

My Enton point flew right above your head. If it didn't, I wouldn't have had to explain what I meant.

Why exactly cant kakashi stall him??
his intangibility helps him counter sasukes attacks quite well, and he now definitely has the reflexes to help him execute his jutsus on time as well, seeing how he managed to hit kaguya through his kamui raikiri
and his Kamui warps enable him to warp off Sasukes portion of PS as well,
unless you think that Sasukes PS is far far more durable than kaguyas chakra entity, that it will be unfazed by the warps, which is not the case here,

Intangiblity only lets him evade Sasuke. Evading someone who isn't trying to fight you isn't going to make them stay and beat you. Sasuke just goes on to beat Obito, and hitting Kaguya is only because she already attacked and he phased right through it and dashed past her, in free fall. Unless you want to claim that Kakashi, in free fall, is some kind of speedster, which is factually incorrect as freefalling objects move at the same speed I believe.

Lol. He can evade Kamui, so that isn't an issue. If Kakashi tries that, he warps right to the tree and destroys it, thus evading Kamui and accomplishing his goal.

moreover, the onslaught between kakashi and sasuke would allow obito more than enough time to fire off his TBB

Based on what? That's what I've been trying to figure out this whole time.

unless you think that sasuke can beat kakashi within seconds and before obito even charges his TBB, then Lol

Obviously not, as I've been saying that he doesn't need to bother with Kakashi. I don't know how hard this is to understand.

furthermore Obito doesnt need to charge up his TBB to that extent, he can simply fire off barrages of TBB (which doesnt take that long since the TBB are not as concentrated)
unlesss u think that a juubi jin cant do that.

Lol feats? I've seen how Obito uses his Bijuu Dama, and they need to be charged up. All Bijuu Dama require a charge, and Sasuke can instantaneously teleport, so it doesn't really matter.

Then he most likely loses his susanoo, since he hasnt shown to teleport with his PS

So, Obito can use barrages of Bijuu Dama, and he hasn't shown it, yet Sasuke can't teleport with his Susanoo, even though there is literally no reason he can't teleport with it? Lmao. Double Standard? Kakashi hasn't shown Kamui in PS either, no reason he can't do it.

Doesn't really matter though since Susanoo can be used once he arrives.

and without his susanoo he wont be able to prevent himself from juubitos TSB based attacks as well as his TBB

Lol. You act like he can't just put it up after he warps. And his Bijuu Dama are a non factor as they get cut down.

and with kakashi being able to send his kamui shuriken to his dimension and he can release them right at sasuke, and with their AOE
sasuke is still getting damaged

Not only do they have zero speed feats, their AoE isn't even that big, don't know where you are getting this impressive view on their AoE from, but it isn't the manga. They are evaded with ease.

or Kakashi can simply kamui himself in the barrier and eradicate sasuke (if he doest have his PS) through his PS slashes.

Sasuke would get there before Kakashi ever began teleporting, so he'd have Susanoo up and he'd murk Kakashi after cutting the tree.

How is he swapping places with Obito, if his range for S/T is bypassed,???? as stated by you above,
even if he swaps places with obito whilst he is within the barrier, obito can still use his TSB based attacks and chakra arms to stall sasuke

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and Juubito also has the speed to dodge the slash, similar to how kaguya did in the above scan,
all of this can be done to enable the TBB to fire, and breach his susano

Sakura was out of Sasuke's Range, but he swapped with her jacket in order to reach her, meaning he can swap with things outside of his range. [

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] Though its irrelevant as he can get into range with Susanoo if he's out of it.

@bold: Now you aren't even making sense. How is he going to attack Sasuke, when he'll be in Sasuke's old position, which will be (going by your argument) out of his reach? Lol. Not to mention Obito's chakra arms are fodder to Kaguya's, they aren't doing anything let alone stalling him, same with his Gudo Dama.

Lmfao. Not only was Susanoo vanishing, Kaguya>>>>Obito in speed, strength, reflexes. Everything. Don't compare the two. EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto were able to react to Obito's speed and tag him. [

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] Obito couldn't even evade a strike from EMS Sasuke's Senjutsu Susanoo after he had gotten used to the former's speed. Rinnegan Sasuke effortlessly tags him with his faster and stronger Susanoo.

No he doesnt,
Obito alone gives him a mid/high diff at least,

Hell no. The only thing Obito has against him are Juubidama, and even then they get countered. Aside from that, his arsenal is fodder to Sasuke's Susanoo. Juubito gets wrecked. Its barely mid diff let alone high diff.

Kakashi is not getting blitzed if hes not within his range of S/T, and even then his reflexes have enhanced quite alot,

Based on what? Free falling and hitting Kaguya with Raikiri? Lmao. No. His reflexes haven't shown such a dramatic increase that would lead me to believe he can react to Sasuke.

Obito can also stall sasuke through his TSB bassed attacks and chakra arms to allow him to fiire off Juubi TBB

For the last time, Obito's attacks are fodder to Sasuke's Susanoo. Throwing weak ass attacks at a strong person doesn't distract them from their goal.

(which dont have to be as large as how they were in canon, meaning that they wont take too long)

They still have to charge, and Sasuke teleports instantaneously. So it doesn't really matter unless he makes them extremely small, but then they wouldn't even do shit to Susanoo.


1. Obito tries to use Bijuu Dama. Kakashi tries to stall.

2. Sasuke teleports away from Kakashi to Obito and cuts the tree and he cuts Obito, or he plows through Kakashi and cuts the tree, and he cuts Obito.

Neither Obito or Madara are reacting to Sasuke's Rinnegan Shift either. Not when Madara was blitzed by it twice.

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