Team elemental vs Sannin

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Hiruzen
Kakuzu
Kakashi

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Jiraiya
Orochimaru
Tsunade

Location: Sannin showndown
Distance: 50 meters
Intel: Manga
Conditions: "Prime" Hiruzen (Jiraiya stamina and chakra reserves, Edo Feats). 3 tomoe Kakashi. Oro is alive and Healthy. Jiraiya starts in base.
Restrictions: Zetsu body. Edo Tensei. Death seal.

Edit:A lot of people are basing their arguments around mostly on SM, so how do you think team 1 would fare off with it being restricted?
 
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I mean Sannin most likely win but team elemental has a chance.... so its a high diff fight
 

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You're just saying that because of Kakuzu lol

No Lol I'm saying that because the sannin aren't really known for their agility besides SM jiriaya and with massive elemental jutsu coming at you from all directions its going to be hard to defend/avoid from all of them and then Kakashi can take advantage of the distracting blasts of elements to go in for the kill in CQC.

Meanwhile again the Sannin have no real large scale jutsu, Oro's snakes get blasted, J-Mans oil + katon combo gets countered and summons would be defeated with both Kakuzu and Hiruzens jutsu here. Only reason sannin win as they could probably buy time for SM
 

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No Lol I'm saying that because the sannin aren't really known for their agility besides SM jiriaya and with massive elemental jutsu coming at you from all directions its going to be hard to defend/avoid from all of them and then Kakashi can take advantage of the distracting blasts of elements to go in for the kill in CQC.

Meanwhile again the Sannin have no real large scale jutsu, Oro's snakes get blasted, J-Mans oil + katon combo gets countered and summons would be defeated with both Kakuzu and Hiruzens jutsu here. Only reason sannin win as they could probably buy time for SM

I won't speak of the other Sannin because I've never really debated with them before. I'd only throw out something sloppy.
But at the least for Orochimaru, Kakashi is no threat like in Part 1. Kamui was his only edge and that's restricted.
As for the elemental Jutsus, Orochimaru could probably tank most of them, or if not Oral Rebirth can negate any damage taken.
Not only that, but Orochimaru can avoid the Jutsus altogether through Leech All Creation, which is basically Mayfly.
Last thing, I wonder how effective these Jutsus would be against Manda.

I'm not trying to debate, just giving ways Orochimaru himself can overcome team 1's firepower. Not factoring in either side's teamwork or anything else.
 

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I won't speak of the other Sannin because I've never really debated with them before. I'd only throw out something sloppy.
But at the least for Orochimaru, Kakashi is no threat like in Part 1. Kamui was his only edge and that's restricted.
As for the elemental Jutsus, Orochimaru could probably tank most of them, or if not Oral Rebirth can negate any damage taken.
Not only that, but Orochimaru can avoid the Jutsus altogether through Leech All Creation, which is basically Mayfly.
Last thing, I wonder how effective these Jutsus would be against Manda.

I'm not trying to debate, just giving ways Orochimaru himself can overcome team 1's firepower. Not factoring in either side's teamwork or anything else.

Yeah manda's the only real ***** here.At least from Oro

Oro can't fully go underground though like Mayfly, he can merely partially merge I believe either way multiple of Kakuzu's jutsu at list affect the ground, fuuton gouges it, raiton can rip through it and Katon rides it so he'd be roasted.

No he can't tank these jutsu they all are mastery level elemental jutsu. People assume elemental jutsu's are so weak no matter what Lol damn Kishi downplaying them in the end. Anyways he can oral rebirth sure but we all know without a Zetsu body he can only do it so many times
 

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Yeah manda's the only real ***** here.At least from Oro

Oro can't fully go underground though like Mayfly, he can merely partially merge I believe either way multiple of Kakuzu's jutsu at list affect the ground, fuuton gouges it, raiton can rip through it and Katon rides it so he'd be roasted.

No he can't tank these jutsu they all are mastery level elemental jutsu. People assume elemental jutsu's are so weak no matter what Lol damn Kishi downplaying them in the end. Anyways he can oral rebirth sure but we all know without a Zetsu body he can only do it so many times
He can go fully underground tho


Orochimaru while dying tanked a weakened TBB. The fact that Kyuubi's chakra all by itself is extremely corrosive makes me think Orochimaru could *probably* tank whatever they have. I'm not 100% sure as we have no way to gauge exactly how strong that TBB was when it hit Orochimaru.

Well, he could probably use Oral Rebirth a good bit. When at his 3rd worst he's been on panel, when sick and dying and having his host body reject him, he still managed it I think 3 times. Not to mention it took quite a chunk out of Sasuke who only used it a single time.
It really sucks how for half his fights he was sick and dying :|
 

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He can go fully underground tho


Orochimaru while dying tanked a weakened TBB. The fact that Kyuubi's chakra all by itself is extremely corrosive makes me think Orochimaru could *probably* tank whatever they have. I'm not 100% sure as we have no way to gauge exactly how strong that TBB was when it hit Orochimaru.

Well, he could probably use Oral Rebirth a good bit. When at his 3rd worst he's been on panel, when sick and dying and having his host body reject him, he still managed it I think 3 times. Not to mention it took quite a chunk out of Sasuke who only used it a single time.
It really sucks how for half his fights he was sick and dying :|

First off that took a good like 10 minutes for him to get underground I don't see it avoiding much my man but even still Kakuzu's jutsu rip right through the earth.

Second he didn't tank a TBB? He avoided it by sticking his head underground I believe and feigned like he was hit. Also TBB's aren't corrosive they CAN make their cloaks acid like

Indeed it does oro was trolled by Kishi hardcore as were most of the cool villains
 

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First off that took a good like 10 minutes for him to get underground I don't see it avoiding much my man but even still Kakuzu's jutsu rip right through the earth.

Second he didn't tank a TBB? He avoided it by sticking his head underground I believe and feigned like he was hit. Also TBB's aren't corrosive they CAN make their cloaks acid like

Indeed it does oro was trolled by Kishi hardcore as were most of the cool villains

Probably because he was taking and had stuff to say :L
Still, maybe it does take a bit.

He... He did tank it... His body was completely fine in Orochimaru standards. Eh, even if theyre not corrosive, it being corrosive was just the icing on the cake of my point.

I still can't believe the shit he pulled with Edo Sasori. And Edo Hanzō. And Edo Kakuzu. And Edo Kimimaro.
 

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Sage Mode Jiraiya can solo two of them so adding either makes it a win. Orochimaru can take down any of them since Kamui is restricted. Or Tsunade buffs Jiraiya's chakra letting him intake large amounts of nature energy and buffin all his techniques inmensely.
 

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Probably because he was taking and had stuff to say :L
Still, maybe it does take a bit.

He... He did tank it... His body was completely fine in Orochimaru standards. Eh, even if theyre not corrosive, it being corrosive was just the icing on the cake of my point.

I still can't believe the shit he pulled with Edo Sasori. And Edo Hanzō. And Edo Kakuzu. And Edo Kimimaro.

Or normal Kakuzu...and normal Sasori XD

Yeah that's true but I mean they'd still know where he went U_U

But yeah Sannin eventually wins im just saying they're lack of defense is concerning

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SM Jiraiya carries the sannin to a victory with Gama Rinsho.

Assuming we buy in to the hype, he's not going to try and fight a prolonged battle against someone he saw accomplish enough to be referred to as a God, being backed by an Akatsuki member and someone he acknowledges easily qualifies as capable of being hokage, and that was before his war arc stamina upgrade, even with Oro and Tsunade at his side.
 

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Oh god without SM Team Elemental wins with medium difficulty
 

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Tsunade alone tanks all of the attacks, sannin low mid
 
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