Team Dosu vs Team Taka (no Sasuke)

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Location: Forest of Death
Conditions: Suigetsu has executioner's blade, Sasuke is not included in Team Taka
Intel: None

I'm undecided as to who wins, but whichever way it goes I'm fairly sure it would be high difficulty.
 

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Anyone in team Taka solos (yes, even Karin).
 

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Undecided? Team Taka stomps in every way possible. Shinobi from Part 1 cannot even begin to fight people from Part 2, especially a relatively elite team of Part 2.
 

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Jugo can solo and Suigestu can probably solo.

Karin survives merely because Jugo eradicates the sound trio so quickly. They haven't the proper means to bypass Jugo's durability or withstand his ridiculous chakra blasts, and ground slams.
 

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Lol, what is this madness? Why are people saying Taka no diff? Dosu can easily beat Suigetsu, look at this scan:

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Jugo can be taken out via Kin's bell genjutsu. He fell for Cee's genjutsu, so I don't see why he would survive this one.

Add to this the fact that Zaku is there, blasting wind in all directions. He can take out Karin rather easily (Chakra chains don't work well on smaller targets.) Also, Dosu's soundwaves will make them go deaf so they can't communicate and teamwork on Taka's part won't be efficient.

I'm only still undecided because Taka is obviously portrayed as being stronger.
 

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Suigestu won't need hydro mode against Dosu, making his sound advantage irrelevant. Dosu is shot in the head as soon as the match begins.
 

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Suigestu won't need hydro mode against Dosu, making his sound advantage irrelevant. Dosu is shot in the head as soon as the match begins.

Sound is faster than water bullets, and Zaku can blow them away with his wind anyway. Suigetsu will most definitely use hydrification since he has no intel on Dosu's techniques. Plus, Kin's bell genjutsu could theoretically solo them all.

Edit: Uh, I looked at the manga pages and it turns out that bell genjutsu thing was filler. Whoops.
 
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Sound is faster than water bullets, and Zaku can blow them away with his wind anyway. Suigetsu will most definitely use hydrification since he has no intel on Dosu's techniques. Plus, Kin's bell genjutsu could theoretically solo them all.

Edit: Uh, I looked at the manga pages and it turns out that bell genjutsu thing was filler. Whoops.

Dosu most come fairly close in order to execute his sound ninjutsu, while Suigestu can start his assault from mid and long range. Suigestu against Dosu heavily depends on the starting distance (which the OP did not list).

Nothing really matters since nothing stops Jugo from smashing them all into a fine paste from the very beginning.
 

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Suigetsu blitzes he could keep up kinda well with Darui and Killer Bee
 

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Dosu most come fairly close in order to execute his sound ninjutsu, while Suigestu can start his assault from mid and long range. Suigestu against Dosu heavily depends on the starting distance (which the OP did not list).

Nothing really matters since nothing stops Jugo from smashing them all into a fine paste from the very beginning.

Actually, close range favors Suigetsu more than it does Dosu. Dosu's jutsu travels at the speed of sound and deafens Suigetsu from a long distance away. Suigetsu's only long-range jutsu is his water gun, and that can be blown away via Zaku's wind (long distance is also is favorable for Zaku). However, it would be even easier for Dosu to engage in close combat so he could GG Suigetsu the same way he did Choji.

Jugo is countered by Zaku blasting him away with wind or Dosu sending vibrations throughout his body.
I will admit though, Jugo will probably win it for team Taka because I was counting on Kin's bell genjutsu and it turns out that was filler.
 

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Actually, close range favors Suigetsu more than it does Dosu. Dosu's jutsu travels at the speed of sound and deafens Suigetsu from a long distance away.
Dosu's sound ninjutsu has never been displayed to work from a further distance then close range.

Suigetsu's only long-range jutsu is his water gun, and that can be blown away via Zaku's wind (long distance is also is favorable for Zaku). However, it would be even easier for Dosu to engage in close combat so he could GG Suigetsu the same way he did Choji.

Zaku can not afford to counter Suigestu when he has to deal with Jugo, and if Suigestu's entire body is a puddle of water (including his vital organs), then the sound waves will do nothing anyways...the Chouji method would not work the same way. This honestly doesn't matter since Suigestu blitzes him anyways.

Jugo is countered by Zaku blasting him away with wind or Dosu sending vibrations throughout his body.
I will admit though, Jugo will probably win it for team Taka because I was counting on Kin's bell genjutsu and it turns out that was filler.

If Zaku is countering Jugo, then he can't counter Suigestu's long ranged water attacks as you suggested above. Jugo was able to survive a full powered elbow from Ei, nothing in Zaku's shoddy arsenal could even scratch Jugo. He charges through the wind decimates Zaku casually.


A logical debate is unnecessary since the sound trio is completely outclassed. Their abilities account for nothing in the face of ninja tiers faster and stronger then them. Dosu (probably the faster one of the three) was blitzed by weighted Lee lol.
 
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