Team 7 vs Hokages

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Could go either way, but i favor team7 more times than not. Sakura, Hiruzen and Tobirama will barely be relevant in this fight. Leaving BSM Naruto, EMS Sasuke, DSM Kakashi, BM Minato and Hashirama as the main factors of this battle. BSM Naruto can use his chakra sharing ability to his partners, so they fight for a while(if they even need it). The combo BSM Naruto+PS Sasuke defeats Hashirama, but it would depend if DSM Kakashi can stall BM Minato long enough for the duo to come to his help and defeat Minato and i think he can especially with a flying Susanoo and the phasing effect of Kamui
 

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lol at the bold because Kakashi with double MS and PS is the strongest one in this battle

But unfortunately for him he has no EMS or large amount of Chakra, which also means that Sussano will strain the heck out of him in this battle and it wont last that long.
 

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But unfortunately for him he has no EMS or large amount of Chakra, which also means that Sussano will strain the heck out of him in this battle and it wont last that long.
He has Obito's chakra who was spamming Kamui like no tomorrow. Theoritically he can do that(which could explain how he can summon that monstruosity of perfect Susanoo chakra in the first place), but even if he couldn't, Naruto is there to share chakra to him anytime
 

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Could go either way, but i favor team7 more times than not. Sakura, Hiruzen and Tobirama will barely be relevant in this fight. Leaving BSM Naruto, EMS Sasuke, DSM Kakashi, BM Minato and Hashirama as the main factors of this battle. BSM Naruto can use his chakra sharing ability to his partners, so they fight for a while(if they even need it). The combo BSM Naruto+PS Sasuke defeats Hashirama, but it would depend if DSM Kakashi can stall BM Minato long enough for the duo to come to his help and defeat Minato and i think he can especially with a flying Susanoo and the phasing effect of Kamui

Dont forget about that Giant size Yang Barrier Hashirama ,Tobirama , Hurizen, and lastly Minato can erect on team 7, i definitely agree with you on the Sakura part.
 

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He has Obito's chakra who was spamming Kamui like no tomorrow. Theoritically he can do that(which could explain how he can summon that monstruosity of perfect Susanoo chakra in the first place), but even if he couldn't, Naruto is there to share chakra to him anytime

Hmm, i dont think the other hokages would let naruto do that the second time when they find out what had occur but maybe you're right, i gotta check on that. But one question, can Minato do the same for the hokages since he have BM Mode and give them Chakra cloaks to protect and enhanced them as well, well to Tobirama and tsunade since they need it the most in this battle?
 
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hokages win

Hashirama takes out sasuke
BM minato takes out BSM naruto
tobirama is a good counter to DMS kakashi cause of his speed so he will delay kakashi until the two above finish
hiruzen will help out tobirama
tsunade and sakura are nonfactors so they cancel each other out
 

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I'll tell you why Team 7 takes this.

Forget about Kakashi's Perfect Susanoo for a second, it's not even needed. Obito with 1 MS has always been able to beat Hashirama; I don't care how flashy Hashirama is or how gigantic and destructive his techs are. In the face of intangibility, they're all useless, more so since Hashi has never canonically shown speed feats that would be on par with FTG (the only tech that can best 1 kamui). Now with both Kamui, Kakashi warps hashi away rather easily and quickly, making the battle:

Kakashi, Naruto, Sasuke vs Tobirama and Minato.

Now, we've already deduced that Kakshi gets rid of Hashi with relatively low difficulty, and that's before Naruto even gives Kakashi a bijuu cloak. But now Naruto has given his bijuu cloak to both Kakshi and Sasuke, ready to amplify their attacks.

Naruto and Sasuke aren't going to want to fuse their avatars (kurama and Sasuke's Susanoo, which, by the way, isn't Perfect Susanoo. Until he cannonically shows his EMS manifesting the PS we've seen from him, he doesn't have it) because they're not fighting one person that requires combined power, but rather two hokage level--possibly the two fastest shinobi ever, too.

Because we can assume Kakashi's double kamui is MS, we can assume using his techs will be straining and can soon result in blindness. Now's the time he'll use his PS (if he wanted to) because with Naruto's cloak he should be able to last for the whole fight.

If Minato's FTG barely bested one kamui, I'm led to believe Kakshi's double kamui will have superior warping speed, and his sniper will be more deadly with the cloak enhancement. (It's implied Minato cannot share a cloak to his teammates like Naruto can). I believe with constant pressure from Naruto and Sasuke's attacks, Minato and Tobirama will eventually **** up in their movements enough so that Kakashi can casually snipe them off from behind the lines.

If the hokages do end up winning, though, it's because of the experience they have over them. FTG could play a huge role, but Hashi is a nonfactor when in the eyes of Kamui.

So yeah, Team 7 takes this med-high diff
 

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I've been readin this thread and what I notice is everybody's trying to match up BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke against Hashirama...

that will never work

I fully believe SM Hashirama would merk the **** out of Naruto and Sasuke after what he did to Madz with Kurama. SO that will get team 7 nowhere and lead them to their doom.

SO people should be looking at this fight from a different perspective and see that Kakashi solos Hashirama here, leaving his teammates feeling comfortable to proceed with their attack.
 

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I've been readin this thread and what I notice is everybody's trying to match up BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke against Hashirama...

that will never work

I fully believe SM Hashirama would merk the **** out of Naruto and Sasuke after what he did to Madz with Kurama. SO that will get team 7 nowhere and lead them to their doom.

SO people should be looking at this fight from a different perspective and see that Kakashi solos Hashirama here, leaving his teammates feeling comfortable to proceed with their attack.
This actually makes since/sense which ever one it is.
 

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Shinsuusenju not even mentioned? Lol Hokages take this.

Invisibleman made a good point concerning the barrier as well.
 

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Team Hokage wins comfortably.

Kakashi and Sakura are pretty much nonfactors in a fight like this.

This is current kakashi so he is the strongest one in team 7 since this is bsm naruto and ems assume
 

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Team 7 win this
Naruto can give them chakra cloaks
Kakashi with normal chakra cloak can use jiubi sized kamuis ,naruto can give him doubled cloak and then kakashi rapes hashirama,tobirama,hiruzen and tusonade
 

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Hokages win high diff. Hashirama beats Naruto and Kakashi, while Minato beats Sasuke.

Are you serious that hashirama can beat bsm naruto and current kakashi?
Actually naruto and kakashi are more than enough to beat hokages considering that naruto can give kakashi kiubyi chakra and then the rape begins
 

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The hokages win this,

--Hashirama fights off BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke, whilst BM Minato and Tobirama can take out Kakashi and Sakura,

--BM Minato and Tobirama can tag Hashirama to help him evade some of narutos attacks, as S/T barrier alongside Hashiramas mokutons being able to catch and redirect the TBB can also be used,

--BM Minato can also power up hashirama thus enabling him to use SS at a much higher scale, and once the hokages finish off Kakashi and Sakura, then Naruto and Sasuke are getting wrecked,,
 

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The hokages win this,

--Hashirama fights off BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke, whilst BM Minato and Tobirama can take out Kakashi and Sakura,

--BM Minato and Tobirama can tag Hashirama to help him evade some of narutos attacks, as S/T barrier alongside Hashiramas mokutons being able to catch and redirect the TBB can also be used,

--BM Minato can also power up hashirama thus enabling him to use SS at a much higher scale, and once the hokages finish off Kakashi and Sakura, then Naruto and Sasuke are getting wrecked,,

This is a team battle Naruto fuses with Kakashi's Susanoo instead of Sasukes because it gives him flight Kakashi with a 3 tailed shroud could warp juubi him with a SS is sniped Minato waste his chakra trying to warp something as big as Shinsuusenjutsu multiply times. Where as Kakashi will be able to warp as long as Naruto has chakra also staying that high Naruto can fully charge a bijuu dama while sasuke uses enton to destroy any kunai then they all get nuked with a giant bijuu dama if Minato trys to use the same output power it is warped via kamui.

Team 7 stomps
 
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Shinsuusenju not even mentioned? Lol Hokages take this.

Invisibleman made a good point concerning the barrier as well.

That and the fact that the distance is 10 meters. Kakashi flying is pointless if he gets blitzed and tagged from the start.
 

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How can Team 7 possibly stomp? I have my doubts about them even winning. forces Team 7 to take flight in Kakashi's PS. Hashirama has already dealt with Madara's level of PS before, he does it again and knocks them back down to the ground. They pass out and Minato nukes them from afar.

I didn't read the full OP. Didn't realize Minato was BM.

Team 7 takes it High Diff now.​
 

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Shinsuusenju not even mentioned? Lol Hokages take this.

Invisibleman made a good point concerning the barrier as well.
How? Kakashi warps his team out of there or fly right through the top via Susanoo seeing ass it's roofless.
 

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How? Kakashi warps his team out of there or fly right through the top via Susanoo seeing ass it's roofless.

A barrier would not be a barrier if one could just run up the wall and jump out of the top.
 
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