Team 7 vs Hokages

[BenjerminGaye]

He's almost at his level bro

Naww he still got some walls to climb b4 he hit gets to that lvl

 

[BenjerminGaye]

hole point edos dont get tired thier dead bodies

Idiot. Alive minato did it as well. And didn't get tired. That fact is irrefutable

 

[Unorthodox]

Idiot. Alive minato did it as well. And didn't get tired. That fact is irrefutable

juubi damas dwafs bijuu damas

 

[BenjerminGaye]

juubi damas dwafs bijuu damas

But nobody on your team has jububi dama's do they?

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto is far faster on in his bm avatar than he is on feet as kurama is much larger and faster to move Naruto smack them back if i remeber he hit 5 bijuu damas point block range you think 1 of kurama's bijuu damas would be equal to all five of those in pressure power dont think so also sasuke susanoo dont need feats of throwing back bijuu damas as its a larger & a much more sturdy structure than mokujin witch through it back ps has hands at that size so why cant it throw it back pskt your pathetic

lmao, you are an idiot. I'm just going to say that now.

-What the f*ck? Every time Naruto has used Shunshin and moved at flash speed is when he was outside his avatar, nothing you said even made any sense. Kurama being larger means he'd be slower, not faster.....

-Naruto's Flash Bijuu Dama was equal to this Bijuu Dama, that made the Bijuu look small, and you are telling me that 5 standard ones from them is larger than

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? Troll harder.

-Mokujin threw back a standard Bijuu Dama from Full Kurama, not one of the size shown above, again, cut the bullshit and go wank Sasuke elsewhere.

Concerning Enton magatamas he can make them in normal susanoo mode why cant he do them in ps Minato can sense chakra wah it will useless here as they basically know each other arsenal you say the ps blades need bijuu damas to move that fast witch they dont and anyways they will hence with naruto & sasuke ps kurama conjuctiong Kakashi warping shinsuusenju still stands minato trying to use ftg on SS will cause his chakra do deplete extremely fast not to mention unless he powering a bijuu dama to its max it wont be much as juubi laser grilled through his naruto's bijuu dama with ease and naruto tanked juubi laser add ps protection to the bm cloak its pretty much unstopable Naruto has always been making bigger rasengan did minato you think otherwise as espected from you.

-Never said Minato would try and warp Shinsuusenju away.

-Enton Magatama are utterly useless here unless they show some better feats, cause all I've seen them do is fail to incinerate Zetsu completely, yet you think the Buddha will be harmed? lmao.

-1 Juubi laser destroyed 6 of Naruto's tails, Shinsuusenju breaking PS and continuing to pound on the Kurama avatar would eventually destroy it completely, as there is nothing stopping the fists. Don't say that Bijuu Dama blade barrage, cause it'd be even weaker than the one Full Kurama used, since Naruto's Continuous Bijuu Dama are only standards, which are much smaller than Full Kurama's standard due to the sheer size difference, leading to Shinsuusenju powering through them and pounding PS and the cloak away after some time. Not to mention we have Minato's Bijuu Dama to help.

-I said show me a scan of him making an FRS that big, not a Rasengan. Funny, you say Naruto has always been making bigger Rasengan, but Minato's BM Rasengan is the biggest one in this series. If you don't have a scan than don't talk.

Kakashi warping speed is to fast especially with a bm cloak you say amaterasu wouldnt be that big because its not kamui laughable naruto chakra made fodders create rock walls larger than a juubi dama

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one amaterasu could take care of shinsuusenjutsu at that level

1. They didn't have Naruto's chakra.
2. They all combined their chakra together to make those.
3. I don't give a f*ck.

I have no reason to believe Amaterasu is going to be as big as Shinsuusenju when you have given me no reason to believe so.

Stop crying about Kakashi's warping speed when it increases as the size of the objects increase.

 

[Optimistic]

Hiruzen solos there's no point on this thread being 4 pages long.

 

[H8OnItachi]

Im rusty, but lets see if i can handle this.

So, Im pretty sure we all know that this isnt going to be a regular taijutsu toe on toe battle, but rather an enormous scaled battle given the presence of 2 BM users, a PS, and Shinsuusenju. Wtih that in mind, i think Team 7 has ONE vital uncounterable advantage over the kages, and that is Sasuke's Enton manipulation, you can convince me most other techs Team 7 has going for them are perfectly countered by the Hokage in a way or the other, but Ama is something none of them can go up against w/o being left severly crippled, let alone a PS control of it.

Sasuke, as the OT gave him Madara's feets on PS, can effectively control the field with Enton covered blades, and this is extremely important at keeping the combination of FTG and Shinsuusenju at bay. As a lot of people have mentioned, the main way of countering the sheer threat that is Kamui coming off a KCM Kakashi is FTG, which will be used on the statue at any given moment, then Sasuke, who can simply burn entire valleys, limits greatly the locations and use for shinsuusenju, which is a direct contact attack.

So now, how is this so important? The fact that Hashi is the only effective answer to an Enton covered PS, which isnt even a secure one, given contact will burn the statue to crisp no matter situation, albeit neutering Sasuke, then this makes the Kages dedicate 2 team players to handle the Uchiha, for the better situation, it would be Tobirama, since Minato is a more grand scale fighter due to BM.

TL;DR: Hashirama must fight Sasuke 1 on 1 for the Enton PS to not annhilate the entire battlefield and the Kages with it, with the help of Tobirama to take care of Kakashi's KCM boosted Kamui.

With Hashi having his hands full with Sasuke, Naruto's chakra can be much more freely used. Welp, here is where things would get complicated, since the Kage team also has a BM user at their side, also giving them chakra, in Minato. Since Sasuke can control the Ama at will though, Team 7 is free to move as long as they dont get wrecked in the crossfire between Shinsuusenju and PS.

Imo, it would be up to whoever wins in a 1v1 between Kakashi and Tobirama, both with Chakra cloaks, since, both BMs beuter each other, but Kamui is the only way Sasuke is getting in one piece through the battle with Hashirama, if it isnt there, Sasuke auto loses, and with it, Team 7's control of the battlefield; if the 2nd loses, Minato is forced to take care of protecting the staute from Kamui while KCM team 7 and a BM Naruto ccan trainwreck them w/o Hashi being able to neuter them completely. Tsunade and Hiruzen both are fodder compared to the other 3, which just fits them to fight Sai, Sakura and Yamato, all 5 of them in KCM cloaks.

Imo, Team 7 wins this 4/10, Hokage win this 6/10. Both with Extrem Diff.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Im rusty, but lets see if i can handle this.

So, Im pretty sure we all know that this isnt going to be a regular taijutsu toe on toe battle, but rather an enormous scaled battle given the presence of 2 BM users, a PS, and Shinsuusenju. Wtih that in mind, i think Team 7 has ONE vital uncounterable advantage over the kages, and that is Sasuke's Enton manipulation, you can convince me most other techs Team 7 has going for them are perfectly countered by the Hokage in a way or the other, but Ama is something none of them can go up against w/o being left severly crippled, let alone a PS control of it.

Sasuke, as the OT gave him Madara's feets on PS, can effectively control the field with Enton covered blades, and this is extremely important at keeping the combination of FTG and Shinsuusenju at bay. As a lot of people have mentioned, the main way of countering the sheer threat that is Kamui coming off a KCM Kakashi is FTG, which will be used on the statue at any given moment, then Sasuke, who can simply burn entire valleys, limits greatly the locations and use for shinsuusenju, which is a direct contact attack.

So now, how is this so important? The fact that Hashi is the only effective answer to an Enton covered PS, which isnt even a secure one, given contact will burn the statue to crisp no matter situation, albeit neutering Sasuke, then this makes the Kages dedicate 2 team players to handle the Uchiha, for the better situation, it would be Tobirama, since Minato is a more grand scale fighter due to BM.

TL;DR: Hashirama must fight Sasuke 1 on 1 for the Enton PS to not annhilate the entire battlefield and the Kages with it, with the help of Tobirama to take care of Kakashi's KCM boosted Kamui.

With Hashi having his hands full with Sasuke, Naruto's chakra can be much more freely used. Welp, here is where things would get complicated, since the Kage team also has a BM user at their side, also giving them chakra, in Minato. Since Sasuke can control the Ama at will though, Team 7 is free to move as long as they dont get wrecked in the crossfire between Shinsuusenju and PS.

Imo, it would be up to whoever wins in a 1v1 between Kakashi and Tobirama, both with Chakra cloaks, since, both BMs beuter each other, but Kamui is the only way Sasuke is getting in one piece through the battle with Hashirama, if it isnt there, Sasuke auto loses, and with it, Team 7's control of the battlefield; if the 2nd loses, Minato is forced to take care of protecting the staute from Kamui while KCM team 7 and a BM Naruto ccan trainwreck them w/o Hashi being able to neuter them completely. Tsunade and Hiruzen both are fodder compared to the other 3, which just fits them to fight Sai, Sakura and Yamato, all 5 of them in KCM cloaks.

Imo, Team 7 wins this 4/10, Hokage win this 6/10. Both with Extrem Diff.

Extreme diff my ass. Based on the feats ama and enton has shown its not burning through hashi's summon. Team 7 has nothing to combat it. There best hope would have been ps blade tbb but even that gets thrown back at them via minato's st barrier. Its mid diff at worst. Since hashi and minato can take it without the rest of the team. Throw in another ftg user, tsunade powering up hashi or minato, minato handing out chakra cloaks, hiruzen's hype(lol)....
See what I mean?