Team 7 stats in Databook 4 [UNBIASED, pleas check ;)]

[Derek1st]

Did you really give sasuke as high of taijutsu as naruto? I guess we're not talking about sage mode naruto because THAT naruto would own sasuke

 

[KCMNaruto]

Official data book gave him more than a 0 butt hurt fanboy much?

Exactly, or maybe he has never read databook, possible I can say.

Sakura stamina and ninjutsu should be higher, Medical Ninjutsu wise she is a genius. And because she instantly learned to use Katsuyu nin with ease and profiency, I smell a 5 in ninjutsu

Well that is BASE SAKURA stats, in spoiler with word: "Extra" you have BYAKOGUU SEAL SAKURA, who has better stamina nad ninjutsu. Please check it before responding to me.

Also, I doubt Base Sakura improved so much...

I have never read a data book since I have been a fan the whole thought of a 5 point scale doesn't make sense to me

Well fine

How can I take this serious? You think Naruto is more intelligent than Sasuke. LOL.

As in BSM Naruto, yes because it is Kurama+ Naruto

Without Kurama Naruto has grown up a lot and improved his intelligence to be on par with Sasuke

He means it by kurama idiot. Kurama is easily smarter than sasuke. Dude kurama was leading the fing alliance against the juubi. Kurama and naruto saved the alliances fing ass. By your avatar and sig I can smell the bias. Want me to show you the scan where sasuke was asking naruto the next move?

Thanks, but no need for insults or cursing

Anyway you are only partially wrong. BSM Naruto's intelligence= Naruto's int + Kurama's int

You just made his point.
Kurama's intelligence =/= Narutos'.

Yeah that is true... but read my post above

you put EMS sasuke over BSM naruto in skills only because genjutsu?.. i really dont see how EMS saskue might be better than naruto in skills area for except genjutsu plus naruto get more experience than sasuke

Well, maybe you are rigtht, but Databook refers to BASE STATE OF CHARACTERS. I think Base Naruto has too little techniques, but has potential to be on par with BASE Sasuke.

Did you really give sasuke as high of taijutsu as naruto? I guess we're not talking about sage mode naruto because THAT naruto would own sasuke

EXACTLY !

Databook refers to BASE STATE OF CHARACTERS(NO ENHANCED, NO MODES)

 

[itach15]

Nice ,Sasuke > Naruto ,perfectly XD !!!!!

 

[Raekwon26]

you put EMS sasuke over BSM naruto in skills only because genjutsu?.. i really dont see how EMS saskue might be better than naruto in skills area for except genjutsu

So, you don't think Sasuke has more variety and skills in Ninjutsu than Naruto?
Or Smarter than him?
Or hand seals?

 

[Chīkara]

Sasuke > Naruto FACT.

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

He means it by kurama idiot. Kurama is easily smarter than sasuke. Dude kurama was leading the fing alliance against the juubi. Kurama and naruto saved the alliances fing ass. By your avatar and sig I can smell the bias. Want me to show you the scan where sasuke was asking naruto the next move?

I actually think that at this point you can argue intelligence between the two over time sasuke got very cocky and at some times arrogant now naruto is very dumb but the strategies he came up with like clones storing up sm chakra and the three stage attack against pein were very clever on the other hand sasuke started spamming ms techs and nearly got killed 4 times by underestimating his opponents

 

[iNotorious]

Sasuke > Naruto FACT.

What facts.

OT: EMS Sasuke -> BSM naruto? I don't know if serious or trolling.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Nice ,Sasuke > Naruto ,perfectly XD !!!!!

In skills that is

Overall: Naruto (Due to overhelming raw powers combined with lower skills)

Sasuke > Naruto FACT.

In skills: Yes, I agree

In Power: No

Overall: No(Naruto wins due to having much bigger advantage in sheer power then gap between Sasuke and Naruto's skills)

What facts.

OT: EMS Sasuke -> BSM naruto? I don't know if serious or trolling.

In skills: YES

Overall: BSM Naruto (Due to overhelming raw powers combined with lower skills)

 

[take it easy]

Well, maybe you are rigtht, but Databook refers to BASE STATE OF CHARACTERS. I think Base Naruto has too little techniques, but has potential to be on par with BASE Sasuke.

the important question. what the mean base sasuke after EMS t.e itachi eyes.
blind sasuke?
3 tomoe sharigan sasuke?
sasuke with normal eyes?

In skills that is

Overall: Naruto (Due to overhelming raw powers combined with lower skills)



In skills: Yes, I agree

In Power: No

Overall: No(Naruto wins due to having much bigger advantage in sheer power then gap between Sasuke and Naruto's skills)



In skills: YES

Overall: BSM Naruto (Due to overhelming raw powers combined with lower skills)

overall naruto skills>>>better sasuke skills but base sasuke skills>>>>>base naruto skills

I actually think that at this point you can argue intelligence between the two over time sasuke got very cocky and at some times arrogant now naruto is very dumb but the strategies he came up with like clones storing up sm chakra and the three stage attack against pein were very clever on the other hand sasuke started spamming ms techs and nearly got killed 4 times by underestimating his opponents

naruto improved his overall intelligence

 

[The Sach]

Ok thank you , anything more to change or is it fine ?



ATTENTION, Databook stats DO NOT PROVE WHO IS STRONGER OVERALL THEN OTHER... BUT RATHER SHOWS WHICH SHINOBI IS WELL-ROUNDED and which is NO. KEEP IT IN MIND !!!

^^ Please read it above !

Also, yes it is true that Sasuke is a bit better well-rounded shinobi overall... but BSM Naruto is stronger overall as He is POWERHOUSE. However gap is not that big.

In short:

Skills: EMS Sasuke > BSM Naruto
Raw Power: BSM naruto >> EMS Sasuke
Overall: BSM Naruto >=EMS Sasuke

Since you are going for stats let's talk in terms of stats.
Taijutsu
EMS Sasuke taijutsu=BSM taijutsu are you kidding me?
BSM gives Naruto ability to sense things and hence dodge them effectively. If BM Naruto can dodge A, I don't know why you are thinking that BSM Naruto can't.
Handseals
Sasuke is overrated on that scale. I don't know handseals feats he had shown which makes you give him 4.:|

 

[KCMNaruto]

the important question. what the mean base sasuke after EMS t.e itachi eyes.
blind sasuke?
3 tomoe sharigan sasuke?
sasuke with normal eyes?

Sasuke with normal eyes

Although I am not certain myself can be also 3 tomoe sharingan Sasuke..., but for sure one of them.

 

[iNotorious]

In skills: YES

Overall: BSM Naruto (Due to overhelming raw powers combined with lower skills)

⌐⌐ Now we're talking the same language.

the important question. what the mean base sasuke after EMS t.e itachi eyes.
blind sasuke?
3 tomoe sharigan sasuke?
sasuke with normal eyes?

Blind sasuke.

 

[iNotorious]

Since you are going for stats let's talk in terms of stats.
Taijutsu
EMS Sasuke taijutsu=BSM taijutsu are you kidding me?
BSM gives Naruto ability to sense things and hence dodge them effectively. If BM Naruto can dodge A, I don't know why you are thinking that BSM Naruto can't.
Handseals
Sasuke is overrated on that scale. I don't know handseals feats he had shown which makes you give him 4.:|

BSM = Frog kata. 'nuff said.

 

[MickNerks]

I have to disagree with your rating of naruto. It seems like you underrated him a bit.

To me it would be more like this:

Naruto (this factors in all his abilities)

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 4
Intelligence: 4.5
Strength: 5
Speed: 5
Stamina: 5
Handseals: 3

Giving him a 36.5

His skills with ninjutsu and chakra control have improved dramatically over the course of this war. He has been able to create countless new A-S rank jutsu off a whim, with no extreme diff. He also has been able to displace far superior skill in chakra control them ever before seen. So with that I believe a 4-5 is most definitely appropriate. And also don't forget that he is the only human being that is capable of manipulating yin and yang chakra to create a tailed beast bomb in his hands.

His Taijutsu should most definitely be a 5, as he (since this war) have been seen multiple time battling raikages, itachi, tobi, and others on par with his taijutsu. And I also took into account his taijutsu ability in SM, and his ability to use long range taijutsu in KM and BM.

In the 3rd databook naruto had a 2 in genjutsu. But since then he has gained mastery of his chakra control and has kurama to also help him escape genjutsu. it is almost impossible for you to take naruto down with genjutsu at this point. And even thought naruto himself hasn't shown any skill in using genjutsu, he does have summons that have very powerful genjutsu themselves. This is why I gave him a 4.

Since the war and battle with madara and obito has begun naruto has display far greater levels of battle intelligence, being able to come up with deceptive strategies, rewarding tactics for alliance, and displayed to ability to listen to others and follow their plans (without messing up like previously). He also show better analysis skills as shown when he and tobirama were to only ones to realize sage techniques effected obito. Also, he ha kurama which is like his own built in orochimaru.lol Kurama has 1000's of years of experience and wisdom. In just 5 minutes kurama was able to teach naruto how to transfer chakra better than his father. All of this is why I gave him a 4.5

Strength should be 5, no if's and's or but's. This man has displayed god-like strength since he unlocked SM. KM and BM only enhance it even more.

Speed shouldn't even have to be explained. At max speed he repelled 5 TBB with the force of his speed alone.

Uzumaki allows him to have massively huge stamina.

Hand seals have improved a bit, as he created the OODAMMA RASENSHURIKEN with a seal.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Since you are going for stats let's talk in terms of stats.
Taijutsu
EMS Sasuke taijutsu=BSM taijutsu are you kidding me?
BSM gives Naruto ability to sense things and hence dodge them effectively. If BM Naruto can dodge A, I don't know why you are thinking that BSM Naruto can't.
Handseals
Sasuke is overrated on that scale. I don't know handseals feats he had shown which makes you give him 4.:|

Well about Taijutsu it is tricky as it is basically close combat techniques using in close combat lol.

I have never seen Naruto having great fighting technique in close combat... he was rather depending on clones, his speed and strength... but technique itself... well hard to say.

Maybe you are right with Handseals, but Sasuke is simply that good with them while taking it easy.

⌐⌐ Now we're talking the same language.

Yes, I am glad

BSM = Frog kata. 'nuff said.

True... lol i forgot about it, wait I am going to change it now

I have to disagree with your rating of naruto. It seems like you underrated him a bit.

To me it would be more like this:

Naruto (this factors in all his abilities)

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 4
Intelligence: 4
Strength: 5
Speed: 5
Stamina: 5
Handseals: 3


His skills with ninjutsu and chakra control have improved dramatically over the course of this war. He has been able to create countless new A-S rank jutsu off a whim, with no extreme diff. He also has been able to displace far superior skill in chakra control them ever before seen. So with that I believe a 4-5 is most definitely appropriate. And also don't forget that he is the only human being that is capable of manipulating yin and yang chakra to create a tailed beast bomb in his hands.

His Taijutsu should most definitely be a 5, as he (since this war) have been seen multiple time battling raikages, itachi, tobi, and others on par with his taijutsu. And I also took into account his taijutsu ability in SM, and his ability to use long range taijutsu in KM and BM.

In the 3rd databook naruto had a 2 in genjutsu. But since then he has gained mastery of his chakra control and has kurama to also help him escape genjutsu. it is almost impossible for you to take naruto down with genjutsu at this point. And even thought naruto himself hasn't shown any skill in using genjutsu, he does have summons that have very powerful genjutsu themselves. This is why I gave him a 4.

Since the war and battle with madara and obito has begun naruto has display far greater levels of battle intelligence, being able to come up with deceptive strategies, rewarding tactics for alliance, and displayed to ability to listen to others and follow their plans (without messing up like previously). He also show better analysis skills as shown when he and tobirama were to only ones to realize sage techniques effected obito. All of this is why I gave him a 4.

Strength should be 5, no if's and's or but's. This man has displayed god-like strength since he unlocked SM. KM and BM only enhance it even more.

Speed shouldn't even have to be explained. At max speed he repelled 5 TBB with the force of his speed alone.

Uzumaki allows him to have massively huge stamina.

Hand seals have improved a bit, as he created the OODAMMA RASENSHURIKEN with a seal.

Oh boy here we go again....

BASE Naruto Uzumaki :

Ninjutsu: 4(+1)
Taijutsu: 3.5(+1)
Genjutsu: 2(+1)
Intelligence: 3(+1,5)
Strength: 3,5(+0,5)
Speed: 3,5(+1)
Stamina: 5
Handseals: 1,5(+0,5)

Overall: 32,5

Extra:

Spoiler

BSM Naruto

Ninjutsu: 4(+1) // beyond scale: 6
Taijutsu: 3.5(+1,5)
Genjutsu: 2(+2.5)
Intelligence: 3(+2)
Strength: 3,5(+1,5) // beyond scale: 6
Speed: 3,5(+1,5) // beyond scale: 7
Stamina: 5 // beyond scale: 7/8
Handseals: 1,5(+1.5)

Overall: 38/40

EDIT: ATTENTION, Databook stats DO NOT PROVE WHO IS STRONGER OVERALL THEN OTHER... BUT RATHER SHOWS WHICH SHINOBI IS WELL-ROUNDED and which is NO. KEEP IT IN MIND !!!

^^ Please read it carefully before responding

ALSO BASE NARUTO MEAN NO SAGE MODE OR NINE TAILS CHAKRA IN ANY FORM(KCM, KCSM, BM, BSM). IN spoiler BELOW you has his stats in BSM

 

[take it easy]

Sasuke with normal eyes

no normal chidori
no genjutsu
no genjutsu defense
no shuriken jutsu

 

[iNotorious]

I have to disagree with your rating of naruto. It seems like you underrated him a bit.

To me it would be more like this:

Naruto (this factors in all his abilities)

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 4
Intelligence: 4
Strength: 5
Speed: 5
Stamina: 5
Handseals: 3


His skills with ninjutsu and chakra control have improved dramatically over the course of this war. He has been able to create countless new A-S rank jutsu off a whim, with no extreme diff. He also has been able to displace far superior skill in chakra control them ever before seen. So with that I believe a 4-5 is most definitely appropriate. And also don't forget that he is the only human being that is capable of manipulating yin and yang chakra to create a tailed beast bomb in his hands.

His Taijutsu should most definitely be a 5, as he (since this war) have been seen multiple time battling raikages, itachi, tobi, and others on par with his taijutsu. And I also took into account his taijutsu ability in SM, and his ability to use long range taijutsu in KM and BM.

In the 3rd databook naruto had a 2 in genjutsu. But since then he has gained mastery of his chakra control and has kurama to also help him escape genjutsu. it is almost impossible for you to take naruto down with genjutsu at this point. And even thought naruto himself hasn't shown any skill in using genjutsu, he does have summons that have very powerful genjutsu themselves. This is why I gave him a 4.

Since the war and battle with madara and obito has begun naruto has display far greater levels of battle intelligence, being able to come up with deceptive strategies, rewarding tactics for alliance, and displayed to ability to listen to others and follow their plans (without messing up like previously). He also show better analysis skills as shown when he and tobirama were to only ones to realize sage techniques effected obito. All of this is why I gave him a 4.

Strength should be 5, no if's and's or but's. This man has displayed god-like strength since he unlocked SM. KM and BM only enhance it even more.

Speed shouldn't even have to be explained. At max speed he repelled 5 TBB with the force of his speed alone.

Uzumaki allows him to have massively huge stamina.

Hand seals have improved a bit, as he created the OODAMMA RASENSHURIKEN with a seal.

This response is......BEAUTIFUL :ilu:

Can naruto use Frog kata while in BSM mode? if so then naruto rapes cqc.

 

[Huzaifa]

Well I knew this was gonna happan. When ever anything related to naruto or sasuke is mentioned turns into naruto vs sasuke thread. Just look at my chidori vs rasengan opinion thread. People made it into naruto vs sasuke. It should have been like this chidori looks cooler to most people but rasenan better overall or something. But people make everything into naruto vs sasuke.

 

[Huzaifa]

This response is......BEAUTIFUL :ilu:

Can naruto use Frog kata while in BSM mode? if so then naruto rapes cqc.

Yea he has sm mode on so he can. he just channels the natural energy in frog kata to hit the guy.

 

[iNotorious]

Well I knew this was gonna happan. When ever anything related to naruto or sasuke is mentioned turns into naruto vs sasuke thread. Just look at my chidori vs rasengan opinion thread. People made it into naruto vs sasuke. It should have been like this chidori looks cooler to most people but rasenan better overall or something. But people make everything into naruto vs sasuke.

That's how NB operates. If you make a sakura thread and they mention hinata then you know $hit is going down, Sakura vs Hinata right in that spot.