TBH bleach atm is more epic than naruto

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il be honest i like naruto, bleach , onepiece and fairtytail and atm i have to say that bleach and fairytail are the most exciting however bleach should be after the crap that was the fullbring arc, fairytail so far hasnt let me down :)
 

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Bleach has cool story and all, but Kubo has dragged it out waay too long, and it progresses too slowly. The events of one chapter are only enough to fill 1/3rd of a episode, thats why there were so many fillers. It's only a lot of cool special effects. Bleach can be compared to a Michael Bay movie, where as Naruto is more like a Marvel movie, where as One Piece is like Lord of the Rings.
Bleach has a lot of cool effects, cool fights and such, but theres not really much depth to the story or anything.
Naruto has a lot of cool effects as well and good fights, and there is an end goal for the series, the story is alright too.
One Piece is an epic adventure, really good story, alright special effects(improved a lot over the years).

For example, Transformers or The Avengers might be your favorite movies right after you watch them, but on the long term, Lord of the Rings is my favorite trilogy of all time. (Atleast untill The Hobbit comes out).




Not opinion, but a fact.
"Bleach >> OP and FT. Naruto is da shit" <- Thats an opinion, a very biased one at that and very wrong one, cause you've never seen OP or FT, so you wouldn't know.
how do you know? I've seen OP, so don't come with unreal facts. OP is lame in my opinion
 

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how do you know? I've seen OP, so don't come with unreal facts. OP is lame in my opinion
Unreal facts? What I gave you was real facts, but seems like your too blind to see it. Yes, in your biased opinion. You say you've seen OP, meaning you've seen 548 episodes of it, or just under 3 episodes? Which one is it? If you've seen 548 episodes of it, you have the right to say it's lame, but if you've only seen 1-5 episodes of it, then you don't know anything about the series and your argument is invalid.

When I give you those sales numbers and you call them unreal facts is like me saying 3+3 is 6, and you saying that is an unreal fact.

Also, I KNOW cause I've seen ALL of those series, not just 1-2 episode of each series, I'm actually up to date with those series.
 

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10 episodes is like reading the cover of a book. Don't judge a book by its cover.
Atleast you admit you haven't given the series an honest approach.
I just don't like the way the characters are designed as well as the animations. OP looks childish by the way it's animated but judging from what iv'e heard OP is not as favorable towards the antagonist as naruto so not as much plot hax which i think is awesome. FT i only watched the intro and gave up, the intro alone looked like a trilogy for pokemon -_- and childish not hating.
 
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how do you know? I've seen OP, so don't come with unreal facts. OP is lame in my opinion
so you're up to date with OP ?

I just don't like the way the characters are designed as well as the animations. OP looks childish by the way it's animated but judging from what iv'e heard OP is no as favorable towards the antagonist as naruto so not as much plot hax. FT i only watched the intro and gave up, the intro alone looked like a trilogy for pokemon -_- and childish.
the anime is made in 1999 what you expect ?
all anime animation is like that at that time, nowadays OP got better and even better if you continue
 
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i just think bleach lost his epicness after the big boss aizen i think it can never go back to how it was before the story is pretty much dead,sure the final arc looks ok and may be not bad but the manga is just really slow with this huge panels where only one characters looks shocked or one whole site for a gt spamm from ichigo i hope kuubo is not dissapointing us with the current arc it looks alright nothing really epic but good but i have the feeling we will get trolled

And tbh i think the fights will never be as good again because all looked like fooder against FGT ichigo and nobody will be as strong again this power up was just to much and makes every other fight look like a step back than a step foward in fighting
 

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10 episodes is like reading the cover of a book. Don't judge a book by its cover.
Atleast you admit you haven't given the series an honest approach.

1: One Piece (54,856,000)
2: Naruto (11,035,000)
4: Fairy Tail (7,743,000)
5: Bleach (6,954,000)

Not even close.
does this include all the lazy people who watch it for free online. Mainly naruto -_- anyway i think naruto would be alot closer or even pass OP if it included the people who watch it for free online.
 

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I just don't like the way the characters are designed as well as the animations. OP looks childish by the way it's animated but judging from what iv'e heard OP is no as favorable towards the antagonist as naruto so not as much plot hax. FT i only watched the intro and gave up, the intro alone looked like a trilogy for pokemon -_- and childish.
OP's design is unique and doesn't follow any rules. Thats why it might seem childish, cause the author isn't afraid to use his imagination when drawing the series. But the story proves one otherwise once one gets into it, it proves that the series isn't childish.
You should really stop being so judgmental and watch both series, they are truly great series.


does this include all the lazy people who watch it for free online. Mainly naruto -_- anyway i think naruto would be alot closer or even pass OP if it included the people who watch it for free online.
And you don't think people watch One Piece online for free?
No that is only the Manga sales.
 
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OP's design is unique and doesn't follow any rules. Thats why it might seem childish, cause the author isn't afraid to use his imagination when drawing the series. But the story proves one otherwise once one gets into it, it proves that the series isn't childish.
You should really stop being so judgmental and watch both series, they are truly great series.




And you don't think people watch One Piece online for free?
No that is only the Manga sales.
No i'm just saying that majority of naruto fans watch it for free online , hence " Naruto fans are lazy " even though the legal sales of OP are higher I bet majority of naruto fans view their manga online. Aswell an naruto's popularity seeing as it has the largest fan base imo
 

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One Piece is my favourite manga and I am caught up with the three (will try to watch FT one day). And Mugiwara, sales numbers isn't what make one piece great, sure it's not a bad statistic to have but it is the quality of the work, the unrushed plot, great build up arc to arc and immense character development which is why One piece is my favourite show. Call of Duty games get the most sales yet they are certainly not the best games.

From a more recent episode of One piece if you haven't caught up and were not planning to watch.
 

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No i'm just saying that majority of naruto fans watch it for free online , hence " Naruto fans are lazy " even though the legal sales of OP are higher I bet majority of naruto fans view their manga online. Aswell an naruto's popularity seeing as it has the largest fan base imo
And where do you get this information from? "You bet majority of naruto fans view their manga online" proving that you are only speculating, no facts to support your claim.
It just means that Naruto isn't good enough that the fans would want to buy the chapters to support it, thats one way of seeing it.

I watch and read One Piece online as well, but when it comes out in the stores, I buy it, because I think the series is so great and because I like to support the publishers and the author. I also like having the series on paper.

Popularity(fanbase) isn't everything either you know, rating is what determines if a series is good more than popularity does. One Piece and Fairy Tail has higher rating than Naruto and Bleach.

Didn't wanna bring rating into this, but meh.
I'll be using Myanimelist.net for this one.
The site isn't the most accurate to use for determining which series is better, but it's as close as you'll get.

For the manga:
As you said, on this site, Naruto has the largest fanbase:

Naruto:
Score: 8.181
Ranked: #5072
Popularity: #1

Bleach:
Score: 8.051
Ranked: #7742
Popularity: #2

One Piece:
Score: 9.021
Ranked: #62
Popularity: #4

Fairy Tail:
Score: 8.441
Ranked: #1852
Popularity: #6

Pretty much the same for anime:
Bleach:
Score: 8.011
Ranked: #4302
Popularity: #2

Naruto:
Score: 7.701
Ranked: #8672
Popularity: #5

Naruto Shippuuden:
Score: 7.921
Ranked: #5552
Popularity: #9

One Piece:
Score: 8.631
Ranked: #502
Popularity: #27

Fairy Tail:
Score: 8.331
Ranked: #1732
Popularity: #45

You can see that even those more people watch one series, doesn't mean they think it deserves rating of 10. For that reason, does manga sales ranking serve better to see what series is better.
You can see that even though Naruto and Bleach are higher up on the popularity, Fairy Tail and One Piece are much higher up on the ranking.
Proving my fact, even though more people watch Naruto, or Bleach, or read it, doesn't mean they think is THAT good.
(I put the statistics up in terms of popularity, cause I'd have to go through 50 + pages on the ratings list to find Naruto and Bleach).

inb4 fanboys twist and turn my words and statistics to try to prove the statistics wrong.
 
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I don't really understand these types of threads for a few reasons.

A) Everyone has their own opinion about different series. Personally I really like Bleach, Naruto, and Fairy Tail. I do read OP but I don't get upset if it is an hiatus or whatever.

B) Mugiwara quoting statistics doesn't really help anyone form an opinion even with that its still an opinion. The reason I say that is think of it like this by your logic Jersey Shore is a better TV series than oh let's say Breaking Bad just because the ratings are higher. But that is wrong because their target audiences are different.

C) Most of these threads are just started by people trolling and people who haven't actually read the manga or watched the anime like this guy obviously doesn't with FT or OP.

D) Finally does it really matter which one is better to everyone else. I know right now is a good time to be a fan of manga with Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, and even One Piece.
 

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I don't really understand these types of threads for a few reasons.

A) Everyone has their own opinion about different series. Personally I really like Bleach, Naruto, and Fairy Tail. I do read OP but I don't get upset if it is an hiatus or whatever.

B) Mugiwara quoting statistics doesn't really help anyone form an opinion even with that its still an opinion. The reason I say that is think of it like this by your logic Jersey Shore is a better TV series than oh let's say Breaking Bad just because the ratings are higher. But that is wrong because their target audiences are different.

C) Most of these threads are just started by people trolling and people who haven't actually read the manga or watched the anime like this guy obviously doesn't with FT or OP.

D) Finally does it really matter which one is better to everyone else. I know right now is a good time to be a fan of manga with Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, and even One Piece.
its because some idiot says OP is sucks while he's not up to date with the series

bold: mind that bleach naruto OP and FT are shounen manga so the series targeted the same audiences
 

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And where do you get this information from? "You bet majority of naruto fans view their manga online" proving that you are only speculating, no facts to support your claim.
It just means that Naruto isn't good enough that the fans would want to buy the chapters to support it, thats one way of seeing it.

I watch and read One Piece online as well, but when it comes out in the stores, I buy it, because I think the series is so great and because I like to support the publishers and the author. I also like having the series on paper.

Popularity(fanbase) isn't everything either you know, rating is what determines if a series is good more than popularity does. One Piece and Fairy Tail has higher rating than Naruto and Bleach.

Didn't wanna bring rating into this, but meh.
I'll be using Myanimelist.net for this one.
The site isn't the most accurate to use for determining which series is better, but it's as close as you'll get.

For the manga:
As you said, on this site, Naruto has the largest fanbase:

Naruto:
Score: 8.181
Ranked: #5072
Popularity: #1

Bleach:
Score: 8.051
Ranked: #7742
Popularity: #2

One Piece:
Score: 9.021
Ranked: #62
Popularity: #4

Fairy Tail:
Score: 8.441
Ranked: #1852
Popularity: #6

Pretty much the same for anime:
Bleach:
Score: 8.011
Ranked: #4302
Popularity: #2

Naruto:
Score: 7.701
Ranked: #8672
Popularity: #5

Naruto Shippuuden:
Score: 7.921
Ranked: #5552
Popularity: #9

One Piece:
Score: 8.631
Ranked: #502
Popularity: #27

Fairy Tail:
Score: 8.331
Ranked: #1732
Popularity: #45
You can see that even those more people watch one series, doesn't mean they think it deserves rating of 10. For that reason, does manga sales ranking serve better to see what series is better.
You can see that even though Naruto and Bleach are higher up on the popularity, Fairy Tail and One Piece are much higher up on the ranking.
Proving my fact, even though more people watch Naruto, or Bleach, or read it, doesn't mean they think is THAT good.
(I put the statistics up in terms of popularity, cause I'd have to go through 50 + pages on the ratings list to find Naruto and Bleach).

inb4 fanboys twist and turn my words and statistics to try to prove the statistics wrong.

One Problem lol, fairy tail doesn't deserve that ranking at all.
 

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i have to say i agree with Mugi here, i personally started watching anime in this order:

1) Naruto
2) Bleach
3) Fairy Tail
4) One Piece

i must say that i heard of OP when i started watching Naruto, funny thing, i didn't really like the way people talked about OP, like story about pirates, how good it can be? well, guess what, it is AWESOME, but i must say that my most favorite from these 4 is FT, which is weird, cause i don't like immature anime like this, yes, FT is VERY childist, the way Natsu always beats opponent far more superior to him, oh well, than 2nd for me is OP easily (from these 4 animes/mangas at least), than i don't care, i actually read Bleach atm to finally see rest of Bankais
 
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