He's gonna bail out of one of them.You gonna juggle two debates at once proof?
Sure fam. I've never debated with Tayuya tbh.Ill judge this too. Never seen this matchup before.
Two Post in each debate. Took me literally 2 hrs to write an opener for my first one. This won't be difficult.You gonna juggle two debates at once proof?
Bruh you keep talking, but you know I will body you in a debate. Is that really what it's going to take Kratos?He's gonna bail out of one of them.
I will man. This will be some real niqquh shit if I do. I'm confident in the Jirobo debate. 100%Broh you have to win both these debates
I'm not the one that bailed thoughSure fam. I've never debated with Tayuya tbh.
Two Post in each debate. Took me literally 2 hrs to write an opener for my first one. This won't be difficult.
Bruh you keep talking, but you know I will body you in a debate. Is that really what it's going to take Kratos?
I'll go first. Half my opener is done. Typing the rest after the gym just got back from school fam.Would you like to go first or should I start?
I'll go first. Half my opener is done. Typing the rest after the gym just got back from school fam.
I'm fine with this. If FTG is.Ill judge this too. Never seen this matchup before.
Any doubts now fam?You gonna juggle two debates at once proof?
You're next f*ck boy.He's gonna bail out of one of them.
Broh you have to win both these debates
Done.Would you like to go first or should I start?
@ Kratos. Soon.When's the third debate coming?
-Gang. Gang. Gang. Gang. Gang- ♚ Intro Tayuya severely outmatches Sasuke, it's quite laughable honestly. The only impressive technique Sasuke possessed at the time was Chidori, and even that isn't much in the face of Tayuya. Literally, the only useful capabilities Sasuke can capitalize on within this match-up are: Ⓐ. Sharingan - Precognition - Insight - Genjutsu (
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)Ⓑ. Chidori Ⓒ. Shishi Rendan (Lion Combo). Ⓓ. Sōfūshasan no Tachi (Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades). Ⓔ. Katon: Hōsenka no Jutsu (Phoenix Sage Flower Technique). Ⓕ. Katon: Ryūka no Jutsu (Dragon Fire Technique). I believe those are all of the jutsu Sasuke performed in Pt.1. Sasuke is capable of performing only two of the seemingly six abilities listed, and even then those won't be of much help against Tayuya. ![]() Doki The Doki are three powerful demonic spirits enslaved by Tayuya. Three of their five senses are also sealed off - Sight - Hearing - Tasting. Sight being the most important here, due to the possibility of futile Genjutsu arguments which shouldn't be brought to surface. Not only are the demons gigantic in size (easily towering over Tayuya by several feet), but they are strong, well as nimble for their individual proportions, the Doki alone would give Sasuke undeniable trouble from the get-go as any, and every attempt at CQC would be thwarted by: Ⓐ. Size. Ⓑ. Durability. Ⓒ. Numbers. Ⓓ. Death. Death - Dead - Deceased - Demons. Doki literally means: Enraged Demons, and who else have we seen manipulate deceased corpses? Nagato. The Doki are similar to Pein, in that very aspect;
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. This signifies that any, and all techniques Sasuke tries to utilize against them be it: Katon, Raiton, or Taijutsu will end in vain, because corpses do not feel: Pain.Thus, Sasuke's capabilities are nullified against the Doki - Except for the Sharingan's sub-skills eg; Perception & Insight. Leaving Sasuke with three choices: Ⓐ. Evade; Futile. Ⓑ. Run; Futile. Ⓒ. Die; Effective. ![]() Option Ⓒ Recap Ⓐ: Sasuke's arsenal evaluated. Ⓑ: The Doki - Evaluated & In-play. Ⓒ: Advantage gained eg;
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.♫ 9th The 9th Verse (
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" Once Tayuya plays this symphony, Sasuke is truly out of options. Special chakra from within the Doki rises to the surface orally, but this is no ordinary chakra eg; Kaiten (Heavenly Rotation), which is physical energy. The chakra released from within the Doki is spiritual energy eg;
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- Mental chakra used to create something from nothing. This is important because:Ⓐ. Spiritual Energy/Chakra cannot experience interaction from Physical Energy/Chakra eg; Elements. Ⓑ. Spiritual Energy/Chakra essential is what formulates Genjutsu eg; Tsukuyomi - Itachi forms an alternate reality from nothing, and upon cancellation it still remains as nothing. In the end - Yes the 9th Verse is a very broken jutsu - A technique that of which
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, but can spiritually
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essentially
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. Once again, this is just as important as the above because:Ⓐ. The 9th Verse devours chakra. Ⓑ. Jutsu harnessed by physical chakra are nullified upon contact - The 9th Verse devours the assimilated energy eg;
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.Ⓒ. The 9th Verse can be used, while the Doki attack as well - Making it a 7:1 ratio.
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Stated previously Sasuke has no other options in regards to his livability, Tayuya is leagues above Sasuke, and this isn't even with the addition of her Sound-Genjutsu in play. Recap II Ⓐ: Sasuke's arsenal evaluated. Ⓑ: The Doki - Evaluated & In-play. Ⓒ: Advantage gained eg;
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.Ⓓ: The 9th Verse evaluated - Physically cannot be interacted with - Devours chakra - Nullifies Jutsu. Ⓔ: Advantage gained x2 eg;
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.☤ Onsa
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(Demonic Flute: Phantasmal Crotchets) finishes Sasuke from the beginning; I'm being seriously literal here. Mugen Onsa is a Sound-Genjutsu applied through Tayuya's demonic flute, this technique is just as, if not more broken than the 9th Verse. Here's why:Ⓐ. Mugen Onsa is a Sound-based Genjutsu - Sound travels 332 meters per second - Long-Ranged. Ⓑ. Mugen Onsa's illusion can be altered completely eg;
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.Ⓒ. Mugen Onsa can be played nearly-silent & in different tunes:
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.Once Mugen Onsa has been applied, Sasuke has officially been negged (yeah I said it, negged), no I'm kidding. But seriously once Sasuke has been exposed to Mugen Onsa he'd only have one option out of three: Ⓐ. Genjutsu override - Requires partnership eg;
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.Ⓑ. Pain infliction - Requires Jutsu independent of personal mobility eg;
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.Ⓒ. Chakra Disruption - Outside chakra different from the victims eg; Cursed Seal. Sasuke can apply option Ⓒ. However, seemingly that is good, but that isn't the case here. Once Sasuke enters CM1/CM2 the outside chakra will become conjoined with the victims original chakra subjecting Sasuke once again to Mugen Onsa's reapplication. Mugen Onsa will more-so be used to halt/completely stop Sasuke's initial attempts of attack (though he won't get any), and to restrain him for several seconds (due to the Sharingan's ability to depict Genjutsu). However, the upside to Tayuya's
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("tens of" means XX number range eg; 10-99), she'd be able to assimilate, and induce any mentally conjured scenario eg:Ⓐ. The Doki restraining Sasuke crushing him to death - This would best be used once the Doki are closing in on Sasuke's position, fooling him into believing their demonic speed is leagues above his own - Causing confusion. Ⓑ. The 9th Verse restraining, and devouring his soul - Best applied once surrounded by the demonic ghost, not only causing panic, but inscrutable
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. This gives Tayuya's Doki, well as the 9th Verse even more time to decimate/devour Sasuke. Sasuke was severely outmatched here, and I hope you understand this now. Everyone needs to stop underrating the sound four - They some damn monsters. Final Recap Ⓐ: Sasuke's arsenal - Evaluated - Useless. Ⓑ: The Doki - Evaluated & In-play. Ⓒ: Advantage gained eg;
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.Ⓓ: The 9th Verse - Evaluated - Physically cannot be interacted with - Devours chakra - Nullifies Jutsu. Ⓔ: Advantage gained x2 eg;
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.Ⓕ: Mugen Onsa - Evaluated - Properties of the illusionary scenario/tune can be alerted completely. Ⓖ: Advantage gained x3 eg;
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.Ⓗ: Tayuya's chance of success ... -Loading- ... Confirmed 110% ✔. -Click on the underlined context -Tayuya solos @ Sasuke
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I'm fine with this. If FTG is.
Ok fam. Going to start it up rn.Nice. Now back to our debate
Forsure. Get ready to change your user title to Disciple of Proof.I'm cool with it.
OT: I will start reading and post my counter.
Kimimaro is way faster than Sasuke.Base Kimimaro blitzed her, so I believe Sasuke could do that as well.
But actually it's an interesting match-up, so I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
I don't really want to interfere in your debate so I'm gonna stop posting about the characters, but I really feel like Sasuke's speed is something that really puts him in favour here, especially when Shikamaru managed to move around the Doki and Tayuya's attacks pretty neatly.Kimimaro is way faster than Sasuke.
Kishimoto doesn't assess the characters potential 100% he isn't a debater, merely an author. Sasuke isn't blitzing shit, not to mention it wasn't anywhere close to 20 meters. More like 4-5.