[Discussion] Tashigi Vs Robin Vs Baby 5

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Monet is stronger than Tashigi though. She dominated her without much problems until Zoro intervened. Later she was just weak minded by fear of getting killed by Zoros overwhelming might to the point Tashigi could take her down, but the real person who defeated her was Zoro, not Tashigi(Oda even wrote it on the after panel fight for a reason). Still Tashigi by that move showed haki+swordsmanship great enough for me to put her above Robin until proven otherwise especially since it's the same opponent who took down Robin before in one shot
 

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Monet is stronger than Tashigi though. She dominated her without much problems until Zoro intervened. Later she was just weak minded by fear of getting killed by Zoros overwhelming might to the point Tashigi could take her down, but the real person who defeated her was Zoro, not Tashigi(Oda even wrote it on the after panel fight for a reason). Still Tashigi by that move showed haki+swordsmanship great enough for me to put her above Robin until proven otherwise especially since it's the same opponent who took down Robin before in one shot
This part makes no sense. How is defeating a greatly weakened opponent a testament to her swordsmanship or Haki? Robin was focusing on the children and wasn't trying to fight Monet.
 

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This part makes no sense. How is defeating a greatly weakened opponent a testament to her swordsmanship or Haki?
Because it took down a low high tier. Taking down a low high tier(even weakened) in one shot is impressive
Robin was focusing on the children and wasn't trying to fight Monet.
Does it really matter? The most important part is that

1- The shot in question put Robin down in one shot, showing she has enough strength/skills to put her down with a hit
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2- She is faster than Robin by far. She went from fighting with Zoro:
To casually blocking them(in their running away speed) with a shield: immobilizing one of them all that in the same process

And considering Robin lacks haki(to hurt her)+speed(monet being faster)+durability to withstand Monet's attacks, you do the math
 

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Monet is stronger than Tashigi though. She dominated her without much problems until Zoro intervened. Later she was just weak minded by fear of getting killed by Zoros overwhelming might to the point Tashigi could take her down, but the real person who defeated her was Zoro, not Tashigi(Oda even wrote it on the after panel fight for a reason). Still Tashigi by that move showed haki+swordsmanship great enough for me to put her above Robin until proven otherwise especially since it's the same opponent who took down Robin before in one shot
Actually Robin will low diffed Tashigi, because she isn't faster or stronger than Hakuba ... so Robin will easily catch her. But baby 5 is on top, she can fight on par with Sai, before he got Don power up, and Baby 5 have DF that cannot be crushed by Robin.
 

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Actually Robin will low diffed Tashigi, because she isn't faster or stronger than Hakuba ... so Robin will easily catch her. But baby 5 is on top, she can fight on par with Sai, before he got Don power up, and Baby 5 have DF that cannot be crushed by Robin.
I won't say low diff, but i never disagreed she would win, not because she is stronger though. Read my first post

This is the perfect example of match-up where the strongest isn't necessarly the one to win

In terms of strength

1- Tashigi
2- Robin
3- Baby5

In this battle however

I see Baby5 coming out of the top due to being a bad match-up for Robin who is a bad match-up for Tashigi
 

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Tashigi is

1- Faster
2- Greater physical strength
3- Rokushiki(Soru)
4- Armament Haki
5- Great swordsmanship

All what Robin has over Tashigi is a hax devil fruit
And thats hax devil fruit is enough to make Robin stronger than her. Robin shown have insane reaction when she sense Hakuba and catch him.
 

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And thats hax devil fruit is enough to make Robin stronger than her. Robin shown have insane reaction when she sense Hakuba and catch him.
Her catching Hakuba wasn't a reaction feat. Her ability doesn't require speed. It's speed that is meaningless against her ability. She said it herself
 

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Her catching Hakuba wasn't a reaction feat. Her ability doesn't require speed. It's speed that is meaningless against her ability. She said it herself
That was reaction feat ... because Robin not see Hakuba come, Robin off guard because she rushes to save Rebecca, but she still can counter Hakuba in split second.
 
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That is reaction feat ... because Robin not see Hakuba come, Robin off guard because she rushes to save Rebecca, but she still can counter Hakuba in split second.
No it's not. Robin's ability only requires a mental thought to be used. She doesn't need to visually follow someone. The moment she catch a glimpse is enough to imagine hands on the opponent and restrict you and it's how hax her ability is. You realise the only reason Robin can't beat the M3 is because she can't overpower them right? Give Robin enough physical strength and she can beat everyone except logias. It's how hax her ability is and the reason why it's not enough for me to consider on overall strength in comparison with someone
 

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No it's not. Robin's ability only requires a mental thought to be used. She doesn't need to visually follow someone. The moment she catch a glimpse is enough to imagine hands on the opponent and restrict you and it's how hax her ability is. You realise the only reason Robin can't beat the M3 is because she can't overpower them right? Give Robin enough physical strength and she can beat everyone except logias. It's how hax her ability is and the reason why it's not enough for me to consider on overall strength in comparison with someone
Just no ... if she not have insane reaction she will never sense Hakuba, because she is on rushes back then. Bold: That is reaction? And you give me one more point that Robin have better mental than Tashigi.
 

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Tashigi is

1- Faster
2- Greater physical strength
3- Rokushiki(Soru)
4- Armament Haki
5- Great swordsmanship

All what Robin has over Tashigi is a hax devil fruit
1. Doesn't matter against Robin. Hakuba was a whole lot faster than Tashigi but look what happened to him.
2. Proof?
3. Falls under speed.
4. Hers was said to be weak so it isn't going to help her much here.
5. Hakuba was even better, but that didn't help him against Robin.

C'mon T Bogard and Corazon, Robin is obviously stronger than Tashigi, this isn't rocket science.
 

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Just no ... if she not have insane reaction she will never sense Hakuba, because she is on rushes back then. Bold: That is reaction? And you give me one more point that Robin have better mental than Tashigi.
You mean insane reactions for having enough time(after Bart preventing her) to catch a glimpse of something covering a 100yards play ground vertically against the gravity? So during all that time and advantage, you think she shouldn't have at least caught a glimpse of him? Come on, don't underestimate Robin to that extent? Even some of 1cm away fodders from Hakuba were at least capable to have the mental thought to notice something was happening, so let alone in that position. And with Robin's ability, it's enough to restrict anyone. Hell even close, it's already difficult not to be caught without managing some kind of manoeuver
 

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You mean insane reactions for having enough time(after Bart preventing her) to catch a glimpse of something covering a 100yards play ground vertically against the gravity? So during all that time and advantage, you think she shouldn't have at least caught a glimpse of him? Come on, don't underestimate Robin to that extent? Even some of 1cm away fodders from Hakuba were at least capable to have the mental thought to notice something was happening, so let alone in that position. And with Robin's ability, it's enough to restrict anyone. Hell even close, it's already difficult not to be caught without managing some kind of manoeuver
I'm out, you're insane ... I think you forget how fast Hakuba that only split second cut all colosseum fighter blok D ... and with that speed, you even counting gravity? Have you convert in on number? That gravity will not shown make different, if speed is too great but range is short.
 
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