lswhyte123
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First off don't assume this is a hate thread or that I am posting this unaware of the other similar ones. I wanted to lightly and positively discuss this topic.
Secondly, read on with a positive mind, this is meant for fun.
Let's start the argument where it starts, with Naruto.
1: If we remove Kyuubi from Naruto since day 1, yet continue the story as it has happened, then Naruto would have lost many fights & the show is over a long time ago. Too many factors were affected by Kyuubi to honestly say how good/bad Narut would have been without him.
2: Naruto, even without Kyuubi does have a host of remarkable techniques and also Sage Mode. So i would say he is still the Bee's Knees.
I am trying to be fair about Naruto's scenario's with Kyuubi, if you think I have missed anything or am being unfair, please state why(nicely).
The other part of the debate that others have mentioned is that if you take Kyuubi from Naruto, then you must take Sharingan off Sasuke-this of course is wrong.
1: Kyuubi,although it is Naruto's destiny to be it's host, doesn't belong to or isn't a natural part of Naruto's DNA.
2: Sharingan,which Sasuke is born with as a dormant ability, is a natural part of the Uchiha DNA, thus cannot be counted as a gift. So it stays.
Do not assume that I am siding with Sasuke here, I am not. If we are to remove gifts then I will explain which Sasuke must lose.
1: The curse mark,which was a gift from Orochimaru, needs to be removed. Without the Curse Mark Sasuke would have been defeated by various foes and again, the show would be over quickly.
2: It is hinted at that Sasuke had received injections & been experimented on by Orochimaru in order to increase his base skill levels. These of course, must be removed. Not hard to believe as Sasuke is willing to do anything to gain more power.
3: Manda, which saved Sasuke against Deidara, would need to be removed, as it is not part of him naturally.
4: MS and Amaterasu. While it is possible that Sasuke did awaken MS on his own, it is more likely that Itachi's suicide or timing of death, led Sasuke to feel he killed his closest sibling or felt the loss required, to awaken MS.
5: Amaterasu, although Sasuke has learnt to control it to a higher degree than Itachi now, it was originally sealed into him by Itachi. This may have played a huge role in his learning it, thus Amaterasu, must be removed.
6: The last one, EMS or Itachi's eyes & ocular powers. Not Sasuke's as it comes from an external source. Must be removed.
I am not trying to say that Sasuke or Naruto would be weak without these gifts, but I am saying that they have both been helped & saved by them.
I am also saying that both Shinobi would have made Jonin+ rank without them too.
Sasuke would have developed his Sharingan and maybe awoken MS on his own. He also had Chodori which he adapted,changed & ultimately improved, along with the amazing taijutsu he got from Lee.
Sasuke also had an affinity for Katon and was able to use it expertly. He is still,without any gifts, a great Shinobi.
Naruto, we all know, has Rasengan, Shadow clones, Sage mode and various summonings which may have taken longer to learn but he did have them even without Kyuubi.
I have no intentions of saying one is better than the other or anything as bold and want to just say that I made this to try and stop some of the hate that one-sided threads have caused.
Thank you for reading and I welcome feedback.
Secondly, read on with a positive mind, this is meant for fun.
Let's start the argument where it starts, with Naruto.
1: If we remove Kyuubi from Naruto since day 1, yet continue the story as it has happened, then Naruto would have lost many fights & the show is over a long time ago. Too many factors were affected by Kyuubi to honestly say how good/bad Narut would have been without him.
2: Naruto, even without Kyuubi does have a host of remarkable techniques and also Sage Mode. So i would say he is still the Bee's Knees.
I am trying to be fair about Naruto's scenario's with Kyuubi, if you think I have missed anything or am being unfair, please state why(nicely).
The other part of the debate that others have mentioned is that if you take Kyuubi from Naruto, then you must take Sharingan off Sasuke-this of course is wrong.
1: Kyuubi,although it is Naruto's destiny to be it's host, doesn't belong to or isn't a natural part of Naruto's DNA.
2: Sharingan,which Sasuke is born with as a dormant ability, is a natural part of the Uchiha DNA, thus cannot be counted as a gift. So it stays.
Do not assume that I am siding with Sasuke here, I am not. If we are to remove gifts then I will explain which Sasuke must lose.
1: The curse mark,which was a gift from Orochimaru, needs to be removed. Without the Curse Mark Sasuke would have been defeated by various foes and again, the show would be over quickly.
2: It is hinted at that Sasuke had received injections & been experimented on by Orochimaru in order to increase his base skill levels. These of course, must be removed. Not hard to believe as Sasuke is willing to do anything to gain more power.
3: Manda, which saved Sasuke against Deidara, would need to be removed, as it is not part of him naturally.
4: MS and Amaterasu. While it is possible that Sasuke did awaken MS on his own, it is more likely that Itachi's suicide or timing of death, led Sasuke to feel he killed his closest sibling or felt the loss required, to awaken MS.
5: Amaterasu, although Sasuke has learnt to control it to a higher degree than Itachi now, it was originally sealed into him by Itachi. This may have played a huge role in his learning it, thus Amaterasu, must be removed.
6: The last one, EMS or Itachi's eyes & ocular powers. Not Sasuke's as it comes from an external source. Must be removed.
I am not trying to say that Sasuke or Naruto would be weak without these gifts, but I am saying that they have both been helped & saved by them.
I am also saying that both Shinobi would have made Jonin+ rank without them too.
Sasuke would have developed his Sharingan and maybe awoken MS on his own. He also had Chodori which he adapted,changed & ultimately improved, along with the amazing taijutsu he got from Lee.
Sasuke also had an affinity for Katon and was able to use it expertly. He is still,without any gifts, a great Shinobi.
Naruto, we all know, has Rasengan, Shadow clones, Sage mode and various summonings which may have taken longer to learn but he did have them even without Kyuubi.
I have no intentions of saying one is better than the other or anything as bold and want to just say that I made this to try and stop some of the hate that one-sided threads have caused.
Thank you for reading and I welcome feedback.
