[Taka's] Senju undoubtedly overpowers Uchiha

[sG Taka]

O thats funny you count Nagato as a part of the Uzamaki clan but clearly has power outside his clan. When he is not even part of or born of his clan to begin with. Madara was the leader of his clan who used outside power to make himself stronger. Even so if you rank up all known Uchihas versus all known Senjus :rofl:

It's different. First of all, Nagato is an Uzumaki. Do you know what "descendant" means? It refers to a direct lineage through to a blood relative. It means grandfathers, fathers and children. Konohamaru is a descendant of Sasuke Sarutobi, they're both part of the Sarutobi clan.Following this great grandfather-great grand child example, Nagato would fit Konohamaru because we do not know who Nagato's father or grandfather were. Secondly, Nagato used the qualities the Uzumaki gave him (great chakra reserves, sealing techniques, physical strength and will and such) to become the Shinobi he did. Madara died and stole DNA from Hashirama to become stronger, where is the clan feat in that accomplishment? None. That is why I do not count Edo Madara.

senju are best and out class uchiha in every aspect...
nice thread

I thought this was obvious
except the uchiha dic.riders will start crying a river U_U

Thanks guys! Appreciated!

 

[KingHashirama]

^_^. You should have also mentioned those 3 Kages are also, basically made the current shinobi system =D

1. Kage and how to be a good kage , and created a village and etc

2. the organizational system of a village

3. the Medical Laws =D

 

[obscoral]

senjus - hashi, tobirama, tusnade

uchihas - mada ... wait a minute, its already a solo

/.

 

[sG Taka]

^_^. You should have also mentioned those 3 Kages are also, basically made the current shinobi system =D

1. Kage and how to be a good kage , and created a village and etc

2. the organizational system of a village

3. the Medical Laws =D

Yeah, I did add that; thanks, anyways!

senjus - hashi, tobirama, tusnade

uchihas - mada ... wait a minute, its already a solo

/.

Alright, sure, you keep clinging onto that deluded perception.

 

[phantomlord22]

man you did a great job
tanx man

I hope this will make to the hottest

 

[thegame]

I can't agree with you cause even if you provide somewhat evidence from data book, you forget to provide us with the most important evidence, which is evidence of powerful Uchiha shinobi, the problem is we didn't hear about any since they are all dead except a few people who are too young (except madara ofc) to have any reputation from wars etc., however, we know they have always been around and participating in wars on Konohas behalf, for instance Chiyo, who has been alive since before the 1st war, said this:

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"If it's one on one, surely flee." I know you can bring out Hashirama who deafeated Madara alone, but still that is just a sole example, and Hashirama is also a God...

Anyway my point is that the Uchiha has some exceptional and unique abilities, whereas the senju are "just" warriors. Don't get me wrong, they have other abilities too, but it's not anything like a dojutsu as the sharingan. For instance Shisui had KA, and who would be better at extracting information fast from a captive enemy than sharingan users.

It has also been proved that people without senju or uchiha blood desired the uchiha more than the senju, for instance Oro wanted sharingan very badly, and you can say the same for Danzo, though he had both.

In raw strength, I agree with you, but overall I think they are equals. Which is also why their battles never ended, and they had to make peace.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Agreed if it was ALL Senju, vs. ALL uchiha then senju would win just imo.

UNLESS.... The entire Uchiha Clan doesn't mind going blind. Then they could Izanagi/mi every Senju shinobi on the battlefield LOL

 

[The God of Wind]

Whoever does not agree with this is obviously a fanboy. I am pretty sure you can include all the Kage's and anyone who isn't an Uchiha into this category since the Uchiha clan were said to be the only other clan in Konoha alongside the Senju! They are all blood relatives, just like the Uzumaki!

Also thanks for the great read! +rep

 

[Direcorpse]

ima retrict hype so no mokuton thats madara feats as far as we know

There is NO hope for you...
Hashirama had a Kekkei Genkai affinity of Water and Earth elements , his DNA was not only coveted presumably for Senju being descendant of the sage but also his Kekkei Genkai called ' wood release '. It makes me sad that we are this far in both anime & manga, yet people still make a mistake like that.

OT: Well while all your points are true, I don't see how Itachi could be taken down so easily with his Susano'o and especially now that Sasuke now has EMS ( or maybe you can count out Sasuke since he got the eyes from his brother ). I'll assume that all three Senjus have great chakra control, so by using that as an argument then yes Senju clan could be the victor here. Btw I'm just pointing that out, since i'm not too sure how people could handle Genjutsu when we've no proof that either of the three could disturb their chakra flow properly against Itachi's Tsukyomi. Especially since the Uchiha clan ( or let's say the few that are known right now Madara/Itachi/Sasuke/Shisui? ) are said to be masters of the ocular eyes Sharingan, care to answer my curiosity? If it answers it, I'll be sure to Rep you!

 

[Tobirama Uzumaki]

Great Thread! I agree the Senju are the better clan over the Uchiha.

 

[sG Taka]

Great Thread! I agree the Senju are the better clan over the Uchiha.

Thank you!

 

[VangBro95]

I would've like it if you gave some opinions about Uchiha's also. But it's everyone's own opinion.

 

[Waltz]

If you would've been reading the manga...you know that Madara solo's your entire list.

 

[3MESSIAH]

hashirama barely won that fight...you saw the blood out of his mouth right....senju over uchiha?? unsightly....