Well it all depends on which version of superman. For example if its the regular Superman that is used in all the cartoons and movies, than Goku stomps, but if its Superman prime then its completely unfair because he is is too ridiculously OP, based off what I googled about him.
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GOKU WINS
superman lost to batman aquaman and muhammad ali goku would beat him
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To Summarize my argument Goku is a born fighter, and has the power, speed and strength to take down Superman.
Gokus techniques such as Ki blasts and Maniuplation, Instant Transmission, Combat sense, the Dragon Fist, and Telekensis trump Superman's abilites.
Goku's destructive power is insane, and rivaled by cosmic beings and God's. Goku can blow up planets with ease, and could blow up a large portion of the Galaxy at full power SSJ3.
Superman has never come close to that power.
When Goku can use Ki to bolster there already insane hitting power, Goku literally shakes the planet by the shockwaves his punches produces.
Goku's combat speed and Instant Transmission are way beyond Superman's level, showing how in base he can go FTL the Super Sayain forms would be even faster. In a fight, combat speed Goku is unmatched.
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gotanks flyig around the earth in seconds
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and goku fought on par with buu
Goku martial arts and fighting techniques completely surpass Superman.
Frieza can survive Namek exploding with his body chopped in half, SSJ Goku can do it easily.
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Combined these factors and it concludes to Goku beating Superman. Anything at SSj2 level or above is enough to put down Superman.
Goku is a galaxy buster - but while it's never shown him destroying Galaxies, it's been stated by many characters that he and his (later) enemies could destroy whole Galaxies. What we do know for a fact however, is that Goku could destroy planets easily in ANY form;
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Combat skill. While some writers have attempted to give Superman some training in martial arts, his fighting style is still primarily that of a brawler. It would be a huge stretch to call Superman an "expert" at martial arts (although some would argue that). In any event, Goku has a tremendous advantage in terms of technique over Superman
* Combat speed. Pretty much all combat in DBZ (and the whole second half of the original as well) is portrayed at occuring at hyper speeds. The exact upper limit on just how fast is not really explored, but considering that most characters display the ability to dematerialize to move faster than would otherwise be physically possible, it's not unreasonable to believe it could reach light speeds. as in will show The entire fight occurs at those speeds.
Superman, on the other hand, has shown mostly straight ahead attacks when speed blitzing. While it's understandable that some will think Superman has the speed advantage, in my estimation at short range Goku has a sizable advantage-- even against the mighty Silver Age Superman.
Superman cannot react and fight at the speed he travels, this is constantly shown throughout the comics. Failing to catch minigun fire.
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* Energy projection. Goku has matched energy against beings who have shown the power to destroy worlds (some of them effortlessly) and gone millions of times beyond that inner power level. Whether that translates into millions of times that output or not is unclear, but assuming a small scale increase in output, Goku would still be capable of destroying pretty much any size world. This level of destructive force should be too great for Post-Crisis or even Modern Age Superman.
Combat skill. While some writers have attempted to give Superman some training in martial arts, his fighting style is still primarily that of a brawler. It would be a huge stretch to call Superman an "expert" at martial arts (although some would argue that). In any event, Goku has a tremendous advantage in terms of technique over Superman Superman's heat ray vision does not compare favorably.
* Energy sense. Goku is able to repress his power signature and evade detection. Superman has shown no such power. Goku would be warned of any sneak attack. * Dematerializing and Instant Transmission. Goku has repeatedly used this in combat to gain advantage or take away an opponent's advantage. It even works to negate Goku's greater than light speed long distance travel advantage.
Ki Sense is the ability to detect a person's Ki from great distances. Goku can detect people across the planet with ease. Now it is unsure whether Goku would detect Superman's KI, but Ki is living aura, everyone has it. The average human has a Power Level of 5, and Goku could sense other alies from across the Galaxy. So sensing Superman's Ki wouldn't be any different.
Also Superman can detect Goku with enhanced sense, so there would be no hiding on ether side. (Not that they would want to)
Was able to pinpoint Bulma's KI out of billions of people on Earth
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Additional Details, Saiyans CAN survive in space, reference Vegeta and Nappa destroying the planet Arlia from outer space.
Goku could use the Spirit Bombalso the sprit bomb cam kill any thing
instant Tranmission
Goku's most versatile techniques. It's teleportation that can be used for multiple effects. It's so fast Goku can travel across the Galaxy and hit Namek in an instant.
Now lets see The ship tog et to Namek
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It took the Spaceship a couple of seconds to reach Jupiter and it takes light 32-54 minutes to reach Juptier from Earth.
Therefore the Spaceship >>>>>>>>>> faster then Light Speed Travel
And Since it took the ship over 10 days to get to Namek, and Goku traveled to Namek in an instant, from King kai's planet.
Using the Instant Tranmission to travel across the galaxy, and between dimensons to Namek. His Instant Transmission speed is thousands of times faster then light, and can be used to cross dimensions between living and dead.
This would be a huge factor and requires little to no Ki. Goku has trained to use it without putting a finger to his head.
goku can draw power from the sun the same as superman
also superman had help to move the planet and could only move it a bit with the JL with no help superman could not move it superman is weaker as his powers are from the sun a near infinite power source that goku could destroy even with the sun
superman is no mach for goku superman is unable to destrory the earth with out the power of the sun while goku could with his own power superman has no combat ability and was beat by an non power karate kid even with the power of the sun And considering that the Earth"s atmosphere reflects and absorbs 2/3rds of all solar radiation Superman should only be capable of on the of have of what he would be able to do in space superman great feat of moveing 1/3 of the earth with the jla even in space still the only way superman could even stand a close to goku
The IMP is an ability granted by the Speed Force and utilizing its power. As the flash called it, he's accessing speed heaven. The speed force is what allows the flash to run at light speed and protects him from the affects of moving that fast.
Superman's strength comes from the sun, which is big an pretty much infinite, but there is only so much of that energy he can store in himself, even after a sundip. He has an upper limit.
The Flash's relativistic punches come from E = MC". C is constant. And considering that the Flash can go faster than light, E is essentially infinite, making his mass and thus the power of his punch also infinite.
In other words.
Superman can punch really hard, and he can fly really fast, but his power is instant. He can't move fast enough to stop time, but the flash can. The flashs punch strength with the IMP is infinite.
Superman could certainly do a speed strike, which is using the speed of travel to increase the mass of the punch, but he can't do the infinite mass punch because his power Is limited. The flash has access to the infinite speed force.
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busting a dark moon almost killed him
the question is who is faster goku or superman how fast is goku lets look when an object that moves faster than the speed of light. However if you know Einsteins theory of relativity ( E= mc2, where c=speed of light). As you move at or near the speed of light light, you mass becomes infinitely large. which means you would need an infinite source of increasing energy in order to keep moving., in order for something to be truly invisible to the human eye it would have to be moving at the speed of light However Einsteins theory means nothing in comic context.
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something to be truly invisible to the human eye it would have to be moving at the speed of light.
Superman can move planets and moons"
Superman has never moved a planet or a moon without aid. He has failed to move moons with the same mass or even lower by himself.
- Failed to stop a moon even with several Kryptonians helping him.
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-Stuggling to pull the moon even with the aid of Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and a whole Team of magic users.
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After being powered by Strange Visitor and a sundip he struggled moving Warworld which is only the size of Pluto (smaller than Earths moon). Brainiac even states Kal normally wouldn't have the strength to move that.
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The most popular scan which looks like it is depicted as Superman moving 1/3 of the Earth. This however is completely out of context.
Superman, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter failed to move the Earth it was actually Kyle who moved it with help.
Taken from: JLA 75
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A very prevelant Superman myth.
Well there is some truth in this, but it is completely overexaggerated. Superman can only go light speed when travelling at an accelerated rate.
Travel speed when flying = FTL
Fighting speed = Not light speed
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Superman even remarks he can't go light speed. Superman can only reach light speed through flying in space at a set velocity. This is near useless in a fight as travel speed is redundant, and combat speed is the speed to determine punches, kicks, ect.
Superman even tells us that he only goes light speed when accelerating. Another instance of travel speed
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This is a popular scan taken from Superman/Batman going FTL. However it is under no indication Superman is going light speed, and is able to have a full conversation with Darkseid the whole way.
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To prove Superman cannot fight at light speed like many people suggest here is a scan.
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In actuality the electromagnetic shock wave from the bomb was light speed and it hit Superman. This is sufficient enough to show he was not moving at superluminal speeds, and can't react to it either.
Furthermore many people said Superman flew to the Saturn moons at many times the speed of light. However this is completely false, as Superman was in deep space at the time when he heard the news of Lex Luthor being president.
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Superman cannot react and fight at the speed he travels, this is constantly shown throughout the comics.
Failing to catch minigun fire.
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Pounded by Green Lantern
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WonderWoman is even faster then him in combat speed
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Superman can only travel at super-speed reaching a velocity of which he accelerates to light speed. His combat speed, reactions, fighting are not even close.
Ok people debating for Superman. Stop trying to juggle around feats from completely different Superman and combined him into one. There is only one version of Goku, so we use the most canon Superman which is not this one.
Nevertheless people seem to want to bring up this scan 24/7
Taken from: Superman #13
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If you are going to pull out this scan then be prepared to relinquish every feats and scan from Post-Crisis Superman. This would put Supermans speed, durability, and feats at bare minimum, making him an easy opponent for Goku. Post-Crisis Superman has never shown this amount of strength (as seen above)
Furthermore if people are going to use this scan then I counter with this.
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Superman isn't even strong enough to break out of the grip of a random Godzilla likemonster, and even acknowledges it. The Earth lifting scan was an extremely high end and inconsistent feat which he has never shown capable of doing before and after.
Again this is a completely different Superman and is an alternate universe.
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NON-CANON SUPERMAN PEOPLE. Please read comics.
In Conclusion
Superman strength is not on par with what people say. People seem to love using out of context scans then trying to high-end Superman like it's not tomorrow.
Superman cannot lift moons or planets, he can only go FTL when accelerating, and cannot fight at light speeds.
well how about the peole who can beat superman list
beat by batman
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wouped by aqua man
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wouped by muhammad ali
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killed by doomsday
jimmy olson (can turn in to doomsday)
killed by wonderwoman
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supermans own legs
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the harlem globetrotters
porno directors
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richard pryor
nocked out in one punch captain marvel
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beating by the demon
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kryptonite (weakens)
red kryptonite (makes superman an ant)
krypto tne superdog
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karate kid
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black kryptonite (turns evil)
gold kryptonite (lose powers forever)
pink kryptonite (turns gay)
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anyone with mind control or magic
The Green Lanterns any lantern
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harry potter (magic)
scooby doo and the gang
this guy
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darkside
wounderwomen
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white women
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white guy
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the flash
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beat by the manhunter
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gandolf
sauron
ali agian
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sword guy
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the teen titans
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the avengers
rush limbaughs flapy body ( the same effect as kryptonite)
spiderman (he beat batman screw attack)
Skeletor (new 52)
he-man (new 52)
godzilla (he beat the avengers spiderman is in avengers spiderman beat batman batman beat justice league superman is in justice league)
godzilla is a boss
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Beaten By Atlas
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Beaten by Dominus
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Beaten by Hawkman drawing energy from the Earths magnetic core (Not Magic)
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superman vs brid
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this guy
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Pretty sure this was General Zod (may be wrong)
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Pounded by Lobo
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Defeated by Orion
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General Eiling
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Amazo
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Despero
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Doomsday
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Fernus
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Gog
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Robot Superman
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Robot guy and a monkey
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iron man
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venom
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