Taka Sasuke vs KN6 Naruto

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Hm? What's with this talk about Genjutsu? Jinchuruuki are immune to almost any Genjutsu below Infinite Tsukiyomi. The introduction of Kyuubi chakra into his system is the exact kind of foreign chakra intrusion that would dispel a Genjutsu. In his normal state, the Kyuubi chakra is dormant and mixes with his body only as stamina - not raw chakra.
But in one of his Kyuubi-cloak states (K0 -> K6)), the fox demon's chakra is actively coursing through his body with a mind of its own (somewhat controlled by Naruto up to K3). That alone automatically dispel a genjutsu.
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No they aren't

Perfect Jins are, Naruto isn't a Perfect Jin here.

No PJ are not immune but they can use bijuu to break genjutsu

DB 4 says Yagura was PJ but was still controlled by Obito's genjutsu

 

[Imperious]

Perfect Jins are, Naruto isn't a Perfect Jin here.

You've just completetly ignored the rest of my posts. As I said, it doesn't matter if he is a perfect jin or not, having foreign chakra surging through his body is going to dispel any Genjutsu Sasuke can set up, as was the case before (in the two examples I provided). The proof is in the pudding.​

 

[BLAZE]

You've just completetly ignored the rest of my posts. As I said, it doesn't matter if he is a perfect jin or not, having foreign chakra surging through his body is going to dispel any Genjutsu Sasuke can set up, as was the case before (in the two examples I provided). The proof is in the pudding.​

if only that was the case yagura would have easily broken genjutsu and Kabuto would not have needed to hide is eys from Uchiha bros

 

[Imperious]

if that was the case yagura would have easily broken genjutsu

If it weren't the case, Itachi would have wrecked Sasuke via Genjutsu.​

 

[BLAZE]

If it weren't the case, Itachi would have wrecked Sasuke via Genjutsu.​

lol bruh it wasn't the curse seal

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With masterfull use of Sharingan Sasuke defeats MS.Panel showing him breaking Tsukiyomi

 

[Imperious]

lol bruh it wasn't the curse seal

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With masterfull use of Sharingan Sasuke defeats MS.Panel showing him breaking Tsukiyomi

Watch the fight again you'll learn a thing or two...​

 

[shelke]

Perfect Jins are not immune to Genjutsu. Viz translation perfectly confirms it that Yagura was a perfect Jin. Sharingan suppresses any form of rampaging Naruto, unless he isn't at that level. Since he isn't, all this nonsense on feats is laughable. Genjutsu ends this right off the bat.

 

[Imperious]

if only that was the case yagura would have easily broken genjutsu and Kabuto would not have needed to hide is eys from Uchiha bros

Besides, I'm more than sure that Obito's genjutsu is far superior to Taka Sasuke, so it would only make sense that Yagura was captured by it. This is also where I make my correction, as Jinchuuruki aren't immune to almost all forms of Genjutsu, but Naruto is immune to Sasuke's low level Genjutsu. With Kurama always present to disrupt the genjutsu, and foreign chakra flowing through Naruto's body, by logic he should be immune to Sasuke's Genjutsu.​

 

[BLAZE]

Watch the fight again you'll learn a thing or two...​

:wut: It is the fight i have read and watched most times

and the Databook specifically states what happened :|

Besides, I'm more than sure that Obito's genjutsu is far superior to Taka Sasuke, so it would only make sense that Yagura was captured by it.​

And KN6 Naruto is far below Yagura PJ in controlling the bijuu

This is also where I make my correction, as Jinchuuruki aren't immune to almost all forms of Genjutsu, but Naruto is immune to Sasuke's low level Genjutsu. With Kurama always present to disrupt the genjutsu, and foreign chakra flowing through Naruto's body, by logic he should be immune to Sasuke's Genjutsu.​

Yes i will wait for the scan of Naruto breaking even one Genjutsu on his own
and Sasuke's low lvl genjutsu Kek that cought Diedara,Danzo and Killer bee[before Gyuuki broke it] all S rank shinobis

 

[Imperious]

Yes i will wait for the scan of Naruto breaking even one Genjutsu on his own
and Sasuke's low lvl genjutsu Kek that cought Diedara,Danzo and Killer bee[before Gyuuki broke it] all S rank shinobis

I don't need a scan, I have logic. Sasuke rarely uses Genjutsu, he is unexperienced in delpoying his own Genjutsu, and therefore it is weak. Naruto has Kurama present within him (as well as foreign chakra flowing through his body) to to disrupt the Genjutsu, which have been proven ways of disrupting a Genjutsu, notably during KN3 Naruto's fight with Orochimaru. I'm tired of having to repeat the same things over and over again, kid. You can say anything you want, but such a low level Genjutsu isn't taking down KN6 Naruto. I mean, his will alone is rageful enough to dispel Genjutsu so weak.​

 

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I don't need a scan, I have logic.​

What da F

Sasuke rarely uses Genjutsu, he is unexperienced in delpoying his own Genjutsu, and therefore it is weak.​

Oh boy and Obito praised his Skill in using genjutsu the same Obito who controlled PJ yagura

Naruto has Kurama present within him (as well as foreign chakra flowing through his body) to to disrupt the Genjutsu, which have been proven ways of disrupting a Genjutsu, notably during KN3 Naruto's fight with Orochimaru.​

You mean Itachi clone fight :lol and couldn't do $#!t and Sakura and chiyo broke him out

DMS kabuto had senjutsu and was far skilled than naruto in genjutsu but still needed to close his eyes to combat ocular genjutsu

I'm tired of having to repeat the same things over and over again, kid. You can say anything you want, but such a low level Genjutsu isn't taking down KN6 Naruto. I mean, his will alone is rageful enough to dispel Genjutsu so weak.​

Lel this guy randomly spews BS made up of his own fanfics and then cries :lol

Still laughing
I don't need a scan, I have logic.

 

[Imperious]

What da F
Oh boy and Obito praised his Skill in using genjutsu the same Obito who controlled PJ yagura

You mean Itachi clone fight :lol and couldn't do $#!t and Sakura and chiyo broke him out

DMS kabuto had senjutsu and was far skilled than naruto in genjutsu but still needed to close his eyes to combat ocular genjutsu


Lel this guy randomly spews BS made up of his own fanfics and then cries :lol

Still laughing
I don't need a scan, I have logic.

Okay, I guess i'm ending this debate. You're acting extremely immature any further arguing is useless.

Congratulations, by the way. You've made me rage quit...​

 

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Okay, I guess i'm ending this debate. You're acting extremely immature any further arguing is useless.

Congratulations, by the way. You've made me rage quit...​

Whatever helps u sleep at night man :sdo:

 

[Kagustuchi]

Kyuubi still stated it's unbelievable for someone to be able to suppress his power, it's not specifically referring to a small amount of chakra [

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]. Furthermore, Naruto in Pain Arc didn't attempt to go to the Kyuubi side until the 8th Tail

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, which overrides the occurrence against Orochimaru since he built a greater resistance to the Kyuubi's chakra since then. So he just needs to suppress the power like he did before. MS is stated to be capable of controlling the Kyuubi anyways so that would be the end of it.

Still doesn't prove Sasuke could do it. If it was possible then Madara or Obito would have done it if it came down to just controlling Kurama. doesn't disprove the gate point ekther.

Just because Kurama doesn't spoon feed info on how much chakra Sasuke can surpress that doesn't mean run with it an use NLF

 

[take it easy]

Naruto neggs.

 

[Apêx1]

You've just completetly ignored the rest of my posts. As I said, it doesn't matter if he is a perfect jin or not, having foreign chakra surging through his body is going to dispel any Genjutsu Sasuke can set up, as was the case before (in the two examples I provided). The proof is in the pudding.​

Because the rest of your post is completely baseless. The chakra is already in Naruto. He's not continuously receiving more, and even if he was it wouldn't disrupt his chakra flow since it would be a constant amount instead of random. Foreign chakra isn't going to dispel anything unless he activates said foreign chakra AFTER he's already in Genjutsu. If he's in that mode and is put into Genjutsu, there's no disruption of his chakra flow and thus no dispelling of the Genjutsu. Bee in v1 had a foreign chakra within him (Hachibi's) but broke out of Sasuke's Genjutsu AFTER Hachibi woke him up via partner method, not instantly due to the foreign chakra like what would've happen going by your logic.

Still doesn't prove Sasuke could do it. If it was possible then Madara or Obito would have done it if it came down to just controlling Kurama. doesn't disprove the gate point ekther.

Just because Kurama doesn't spoon feed info on how much chakra Sasuke can surpress that doesn't mean run with it an use NLF

Again, Kyuubi literally said Sasuke could. I'm not sure where you're going with the Obito/Madara point though given they were fighting a clone the entire time. And then when Obito fought Naruto, Naruto had secured the Kyuubi's chakra for himself so a portion of it was basically his. After that he was in BM, pretty much no way you can suppress chakra since it doesn't pass the Gate to reach Naruto. And BM is also completely different since Naruto and Kurama combine their chakra. As you said before, if Naruto is in the gate (8th tail) then Sasuke can't suppress the chakra. But as long as the chakra needs to reach Naruto from within the gate Sasuke should be able to suppress it as he did previously.

Kurama already implied other Uchiha's have been in a Jin's mind [

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]. He wasn't surprised at all and immediately claimed he was an Uchiha when he entered the subconscious area, he also immediately attributed it to the cursed Sharingan and its forsaken ancestry. Also, spoon feed info? You're the one making the assumption that said chakra was only enough to make Naruto KN0, when clearly this amount of chakra

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had not even entered Naruto for us to gauge how much chakra Sasuke suppressed in that instance. VIZ restates "Kyubi-I can't believe you are even able to suppress my power..." implying that the Kyuubi's power itself can be suppressed by Sasuke, which isn't far fetched since the MS can control the Kyuubi's power (suppressing it being the step right behind it, but this is MS Sasuke who's transcended from the Sasuke who suppressed the Kyuubi's power). And btw, NLF isn't a real fallacy so don't try to use it.

 

[Imperious]

Because the rest of your post is completely baseless. The chakra is already in Naruto. He's not continuously receiving more, and even if he was it wouldn't disrupt his chakra flow since it would be a constant amount instead of random. Foreign chakra isn't going to dispel anything unless he activates said foreign chakra AFTER he's already in Genjutsu. If he's in that mode and is put into Genjutsu, there's no disruption of his chakra flow and thus no dispelling of the Genjutsu. Bee in v1 had a foreign chakra within him (Hachibi's) but broke out of Sasuke's Genjutsu AFTER Hachibi woke him up via partner method, not instantly due to the foreign chakra like what would've happen going by your logic.



Again, Kyuubi literally said Sasuke could. I'm not sure where you're going with the Obito/Madara point though given they were fighting a clone the entire time. And then when Obito fought Naruto, Naruto had secured the Kyuubi's chakra for himself so a portion of it was basically his. After that he was in BM, pretty much no way you can suppress chakra since it doesn't pass the Gate to reach Naruto. And BM is also completely different since Naruto and Kurama combine their chakra. As you said before, if Naruto is in the gate (8th tail) then Sasuke can't suppress the chakra. But as long as the chakra needs to reach Naruto from within the gate Sasuke should be able to suppress it as he did previously.

Kurama already implied other Uchiha's have been in a Jin's mind [

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][

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]. He wasn't surprised at all and immediately claimed he was an Uchiha when he entered the subconscious area, he also immediately attributed it to the cursed Sharingan and its forsaken ancestry. Also, spoon feed info? You're the one making the assumption that said chakra was only enough to make Naruto KN0, when clearly this amount of chakra

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had not even entered Naruto for us to gauge how much chakra Sasuke suppressed in that instance. VIZ restates "Kyubi-I can't believe you are even able to suppress my power..." implying that the Kyuubi's power itself can be suppressed by Sasuke, which isn't far fetched since the MS can control the Kyuubi's power (suppressing it being the step right behind it, but this is MS Sasuke who's transcended from the Sasuke who suppressed the Kyuubi's power). And btw, NLF isn't a real fallacy so don't try to use it.

Ah, I see my mistake now. Thanks for the correction nice counter by the way, you proved me wrong.​

 

[Apêx1]

Ah, I see my mistake now. Thanks for the correction nice counter by the way, you proved me wrong.​

Thanks bruv

 

[shelke]

I don't need a scan, I have logic. Sasuke rarely uses Genjutsu, he is unexperienced in delpoying his own Genjutsu, and therefore it is weak. Naruto has Kurama present within him (as well as foreign chakra flowing through his body) to to disrupt the Genjutsu, which have been proven ways of disrupting a Genjutsu, notably during KN3 Naruto's fight with Orochimaru. I'm tired of having to repeat the same things over and over again, kid. You can say anything you want, but such a low level Genjutsu isn't taking down KN6 Naruto. I mean, his will alone is rageful enough to dispel Genjutsu so weak.​

Sasuke knocked out Bee, a perfect Jin, for several seconds (Yeah, it was a good 8 to 10 seconds if anyone pays attention), so a non-perfect Jin isn't proving too much.

Orochimaru and Chee (Genjutsu experts) fell flat before Sasuke's 3T Genjutsu and couldn't do anything as well.