Taijutsu Gauntlet - Kimimaro Steps Up

[BenjerminGaye]

You're trying to compare bones that are harder than reinforced steel to chakra... Yeah okay.

Gentle fist bypasses that. U know this.

 

[neosmith500]

He stops at neji or possibly hiashi..

Both of whom can handle him in cqc with gentle fist bein able to nip slip his defense an are more than skilled enough in taijutsu to trade blows , evade and defend against his attacks usin pure chakra..

They can also predict where his bones will expel from with the byakugan unlike the other combatants.

I see them takin this high diff for neji and mid diff for hiashi.

 

[NarutoX28]

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Yeah, Gentle Fist bypasses the exterior and attacks your internal organs instead.

Edit: Though possibly, a direct hit, or a multitude of hits is needed to ensure damage is done considering 30% Kisame tanked a Gentle Fist at mid-distance.

 

[Apêx1]

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Yeah, Gentle Fist bypasses the exterior and attacks your internal organs instead.

Edit: Though possibly, a direct hit, or a multitude of hits is needed to ensure damage is done considering 30% Kisame tanked a Gentle Fist at mid-distance.

That was merely a shockwave, there's no gentle fist behind the shockwave. The databook says it takes on properties of Gentle Fist but clearly those properties are not inserting chakra into the opponent's body.

 

[Curse Mark]

It's definitely not, he CLEARLY said this is a taijutsu battle, and when he said 'hand-to-hand' combat he gave examples of what that would be.

Not to mention he already told someone else it wasnt allowed.

 

[NarutoX28]

That was merely a shockwave, there's no gentle fist behind the shockwave. The databook says it takes on properties of Gentle Fist but clearly those properties are not inserting chakra into the opponent's body.

That actually makes sense.

 

[Curse Mark]

If Neji was standing in front of a steel wall and someone was standing literally up against the other side, would he be able to use gentle fist through the wall?

 

[NarutoX28]

The steel wall isn't a part of the system whereas Kimimaro's bones are.

 

[Curse Mark]

The steel wall isn't a part of the system whereas Kimimaro's bones are.

What difference does that make? If it cant make it through that dense of an object, it cant.

 

[Apêx1]

What difference does that make? If it cant make it through that dense of an object, it cant.

Ok, then look at it this way. Bones have already been manipulated inside of the body so what's stopping Hiashi from displacing Kimimaro's bones into his organs?

 

[Zexion~]

It's definitely not, he CLEARLY said this is a taijutsu battle, and when he said 'hand-to-hand' combat he gave examples of what that would be.

How is it not different than the examples? Chakra is gathered in the hand, and is used in CQC scenarios. He gave the examples and than stated "ETC"

 

[Red Slayer]

What do u think is Kimimaro's Bones harder than Pain's Black Rods?

 

[Apêx1]

How is it not different than the examples? Chakra is gathered in the hand, and is used in CQC scenarios. He gave the examples and than stated "ETC"

Please learn to read

This is only a Taijutsu battle.

Chidori=NINJUTSU, Gentle Fist==TAIJUTSU

Only techniques of Hand to Hand combat are allowed eg; Frog Kata, Kimimaro's KKG, Gentle Fist etc.

All are TAIJUTSU based forms of CQC. Where does Chidori factor in here? If I was to say "meat from chicken, meat from kangaroo, meat from cows, etc" are you going to name vegetables? I hope not.

 

[Zexion~]

Please learn to read


Chidori=NINJUTSU, Gentle Fist==TAIJUTSU



All are TAIJUTSU based forms of CQC. Where does Chidori factor in here? If I was to say "meat from chicken, meat from kangaroo, meat from cows, etc" are you going to name vegetables? I hope not.

Only techniques of Hand to Hand combat are allowed

Is Raikiri not a Hand to Hand combat technique? Smh, clearly its not me who has trouble reading. Taijutsu is the action of Hand to hand combat, a ninjutsu can enhance that, obviously shown when a KKG is enhancing Kimi's taijutsu abilities.

 

[Apêx1]

Is Raikiri not a Hand to Hand combat technique? Smh, clearly its not me who has trouble reading. Taijutsu is the action of Hand to hand combat, a ninjutsu can enhance that, obviously shown when a KKG is enhancing Kimi's taijutsu abilities.

So what you have just told me is that you don't know what context is. Hand to hand combat CAN include Raikiri, but when OP also SPECIFICALLY stipulates this as Taijutsu ONLY then CLEARLY Raikiri is not part of 'hand to hand combat'. My god. Kimimaro's KKG is considered Taijutsu, all of his bone abilities are listed as Taijutsu, Orochimaru refers to his KKG as Taijutsu. So once again, learn to read.

 

[KidGamer65]

Wow, really arguing that Ninjutsu is allowed in a Taijutsu only battle huh?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

What difference does that make? If it cant make it through that dense of an object, it cant.

It makes all the difference. It's apart of his body, manipulated by his body and as a result can be effected by gentle fist.

 

[Zexion~]

So what you have just told me is that you don't know what context is. Hand to hand combat CAN include Raikiri, but when OP also SPECIFICALLY stipulates this as Taijutsu ONLY then CLEARLY Raikiri is not part of 'hand to hand combat'. My god. Kimimaro's KKG is considered Taijutsu, all of his bone abilities are listed as Taijutsu, Orochimaru refers to his KKG as Taijutsu. So once again, learn to read.

Wow, really arguing that Ninjutsu is allowed in a Taijutsu only battle huh?

I was just arguing it was apart of hand to hand combat, and was wondering if he allowed ninjutsu enhanced taijutsu. So yeah guess I didn't get the context.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

No he doesn't. What does Sasuke honestly have other than great speed to put Kimimaro down in a Taijutsu farce? Nothing @ all. Sharingan precognition is countered by an unorthodox fighting style @ Sasuke vs Killer B, when B completely destroyed him with his 8 sword fighting style.

That was someone with comparable speed. Hebi Sasuke is literally Kimimaru V2, sword instead of bone. With His Sword and Raiton he Stomps. With Sword, he Med Diffs. With the Sword, he loses High Diff.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke would outlast him? How does he manage to do so when as I mentioned Unorthodox fighting styles > Sharingan precognition. Not only that, but Kimimaro is easily on par with Hebi Sasuke's speed in a healthy body, seeing as in a sick, dead one he possessed a speed of 4.5.

SM Naruto has no way of breaking through Kimimaro's Regen, in a pure Taijutsu fight meaning no running etc.

SM, and gated Lee and Gai are the only threats, but they don't stomp Kimimaro he can clear.

Being Unorthodox is irrelevant when Sasuke is 100 times faster. It's like a baby doing random shit trying to hit an adult; only because it's doing random shit doesn't mean it's actually going to land a hit on an adult. Being that much faster allows you to just react, and the Sharingan would still help since it would allow Sasuke to know where said bone will be ahead of time (his hands don't move zigzag on the way to Sasuke, and even if they did Sasuke would be able to know from beforehand due to his Sharingan perceiving muscular movements). Unorthodox styles only apply when someone is as fast as you, or around that level.