Sympathy for the Uchiha Clan

[mohdzarif]

After watching the latest episode, my sympathy towards the Uchiha clan grew.

Uchiha Fugaku was very dedicated for his clan to involve in shaping the future of Konoha. Itachi told the clan about how he thought that there is a lack of unity among the elders of Konoha. The clan members showed that they really care about Konoha and its prosperity.

But still, the Uchiha members were more loyal towards their own clan. And for that, I despised Tobirama for what he had done to the Uchiha! Had he not segregated them like that, and encourage them to live and mingle with other clans by not putting them at the border of Konoha, things would had been different!

He knew that the Uchiha had the potential to be "crazy" and turn evil "when they lose love" (or whatever), but imprisoning them didn't help and won't ever really help at all. When you let crazy people live closely together almost exclusively, an even bigger threat can emerge from them, because they are more likely to unite with each other. One person can easily influence the entire clan.

If the Uchiha were to live closely among all the other villagers, they would be less self-centered. Their care for Konoha and its villagers would become stronger and better than their loyalty towards their own clan.

Because of the better relationship they established with the other villagers, the villagers will have more favorable view of the Uchiha too. After that, the Uchiha would be trusted even more as loyal citizens, and there won't be any suspicions that they involved in the Kyuubi attack.

And imprisoning them only promoted Madara sympathizers, like Orochimaru said.​

 

[oShux]

After watching the latest episode, my sympathy towards the Uchiha clan grew.

Uchiha Fugaku was very dedicated for his clan to involve in shaping the future of Konoha. Itachi told the clan about how he thought that there is a lack of unity among the elders of Konoha. The clan really cared about Konoha and its prosperity.

But still, the Uchiha members were more loyal towards their own clan. And for that, I despised Tobirama for what he had done to the Uchiha! Had he not segregated them like that, and encourage them to live and mingle with other clans by not putting them at the border of Konoha, things would had been different!

He knew that the Uchiha had the potential to be "crazy" and turn evil "when they lose love" (or whatever), but imprisoning them didn't help and won't ever really help at all. When you let crazy people live closely together almost exclusively, an even bigger threat can emerge from them, because they are more likely to unite with each other. One person can easily influence the entire clan.

If the Uchiha were to live closely among all the other villagers, they would be less self-centered. Their care for Konoha and its villagers would become stronger and better than their loyalty towards their own clan.

Because of the better relationship they established with the other villagers, the villagers will have more favorable view of the Uchiha too. After that, the Uchiha would be trusted even more as loyal citizens, and there won't be any suspicions that they involved in the Kyuubi attack.

And imprisoning them only promoted Madara sympathizers, like Orochimaru said.​

What Tobirama did to the Uchiha clan is the same thing that the government does to it's people. He exploited them and kept them under watch cause he felt it was for the good of Konoha you have to look at things from both point of views after all it was an Uchiha who attacked Konoha with the nine tails both times. They're the only ones capable. And with the curse of hatred? I'd keep them under watch too but besides sending them off to their own jurisdiction he didn't really do anything else wrong.

 

[Its sasukebase]

the uchiha is a perfect clan

 

[Its sasukebase]

What Tobirama did to the Uchiha clan is the same thing that the government does to it's people. He exploited them and kept them under watch cause he felt it was for the good of Konoha you have to look at things from both point of views after all it was an Uchiha who attacked Konoha with the nine tails both times. They're the only ones capable. And with the curse of hatred? I'd keep them under watch too but besides sending them off to their own jurisdiction he didn't really do anything else wrong.

it was already stated that obito caused the 9 tails attack. leaf was just scared of the uchiha they would even fight them by them self they used itachi.

 

[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

the uchiha is a perfect clan

You quoted yourself in your own sig? You realize you could just type it out in the signature tab.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

i always hate how fugaku and uchihas get so demonised. they are no different to washington and his independence comrades, leia and her rebels, and the warsaw rebels in WW2.
sure vader could wipe them all out to keep the empire inpower before a war starts in earnest but what does that make him? hero or just another goon in the service of tarkin?

when washington first started the rebellion him and the others knew they were traitors by signing independence. but they did it anyway because they felt itd be worth the bloodshed.

uchihas were rewarded for fighting shoulder to shoulder with their comrades for 3 bloody world wars, with suspicion fear and spying. they came to realise that danzo and the other old coots would never let this go and things would get worse and worse. it was rebel or be killed off.
konoha started the second world war. who knows how many uchihas got killed because of that?
some revolutions need to happen and if the truth is exposed, then maybe other nations will realise they dont need to listen to old fuks corrupting their lives and sending out kids to die.

 

[Eclipsingon]

to live in what we call reality we both need good and bad we need war on all types of levels don't get me wrong i love the uchiha but from my point of view the 2nd hokage watched his brother ask a defeated madara what would it take for him to join sides and madara goes kill your brother or yourself and the 1st hokage was going to kill himself

 

[Aquaglow]

Yes the leaf government should have given Uchiha a chance. I am with Sasuke for killing Danzo. He was really a prick! Good that he is dead. Most of the bad things revolve around him. But third hokage was also to blame. He was like so goody goody leting Danzo handle the shit while he smoke his pipe and appears so good!

 

[mohdzarif]

What Tobirama did to the Uchiha clan is the same thing that the government does to it's people. He exploited them and kept them under watch cause he felt it was for the good of Konoha you have to look at things from both point of views after all it was an Uchiha who attacked Konoha with the nine tails both times. They're the only ones capable. And with the curse of hatred? I'd keep them under watch too but besides sending them off to their own jurisdiction he didn't really do anything else wrong.

The Uchiha are humans, and should be treated equally as other humans. Yeah, that "curse of hatred" or whatever bullshit it is. It is better for me to kinda separate them from the bound of their clan by not letting them live on their own at the outskirts of the village. Like I said, you can't let "monsters" live together by their own or a worse threat can emerge.

 

[Lord Naruto San]

EH I would do the same it was there actions they were already going to revolt

Clan<Village

They had to do something that benefited the whole VILLAGE

A Tree can miss a branch but it cannot loose its ROOTS

 

[sasukesworld]

I always liked them

 

[Tobi98]

EH I would do the same it was there actions they were already going to revolt

Clan<Village

They had to do something that benefited the whole VILLAGE

A Tree can miss a branch but it cannot loose its ROOTS

Actually they didn't want war, Tobirama thought they would, so he opressed them, they ended up revolting but it was because of Tobirama's actions

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[TheRapGuy]

EH I would do the same it was there actions they were already going to revolt

Clan<Village

They had to do something that benefited the whole VILLAGE

A Tree can miss a branch but it cannot loose its ROOTS

Weren't they protecting them by staying at the borders?

 

[Sasuke]

Tobirama is the one to blame for everything, at least as far as Uchiha go. He was simply descriminating the Uchiha. Even when Sasuke met Hashirama, Tobirama threw some descrimitive comments towards him.

 

[mohdzarif]

EH I would do the same it was there actions they were already going to revolt

Clan<Village

They had to do something that benefited the whole VILLAGE

A Tree can miss a branch but it cannot loose its ROOTS

I'm not talking about the massacre.

I just think that if the Uchiha would had been treated differently from the start, they won't end like that.

 

[Its sasukebase]

Tobirama is the one to blame for everything, at least as far as Uchiha go. He was simply descriminating the Uchiha. Even when Sasuke met Hashirama, Tobirama threw some descrimitive comments towards him.

this and he based all uchiha off of madara

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Uchiha's should be killed and they deserved what did to them ....They were planning from the start to attack the village...New uchiha clan should be born by obito and madara...

Although, 2nd hokage method was harsh but he did what uchiha's deserved...Itachi was a sensible shinobi that's why he killed all of them even his cursed parents and saved the world from 4th war...

As a matter of fact LEAF village formed for and represented both uchiha's and senju's but i think that uchiha sh1t wanted remained in their village ..that's why Senju's clan didnt exist anymore after leaf formation but that uchiha's remained in their uchiha clan.

 

[SIX PATHZ]

uchiha is the best and tobi was stupid

 

[mohdzarif]

Tobirama is the one to blame for everything, at least as far as Uchiha go. He was simply descriminating the Uchiha. Even when Sasuke met Hashirama, Tobirama threw some descrimitive comments towards him.

But I don't really blamed him for everything. We had Obito too. Because of him, the Uchiha is blamed for something that they didn't do.

And there was Danzo, urrghh, I really hate this scumbag, messing up with many things. Danzo is the character I hate the most.

to live in what we call reality we both need good and bad we need war on all types of levels don't get me wrong i love the uchiha but from my point of view the 2nd hokage watched his brother ask a defeated madara what would it take for him to join sides and madara goes kill your brother or yourself and the 1st hokage was going to kill himself

Looking at Tobirama's point of view, I kinda understand what he did, but still... I wished it had been different for the Uchiha clan.

 

[mohdzarif]

Uchiha's should be killed and they deserved what did to them ....They were planning from the start to attack the village...New uchiha clan should be born by obito and madara...

Although, 2nd hokage method was harsh but he did what uchiha's deserved...Itachi was a sensible shinobi that's why he killed all of them even his cursed parents and saved the world from 4th war...

As a matter of fact LEAF village formed for and represented both uchiha's and senju's but i think that uchiha sh1t wanted remained in their village ..that's why Senju's clan didnt exist anymore after leaf formation but that uchiha's remained in their uchiha clan.

BOLD: When did they plan to attack from the start? They were loyal to Konoha from the start and even despised their leader Madara for what he planned to do.

Tobirama did what the Uchiha deserved? Like I said above, they have nothing against that Uchiha at the moment. It was what Tobirama did that promoted Madara sympathizers, instead.

uchiha is the best and tobi was stupid

Yeah right, Obito was to be blamed too. He even told Sasuke that the Kyuubi attack was a "natural disaster".