[Discussion] Swordsmen in OP

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Some questions are being brought up and I wanted to see what people here thought.



Do you agree with the wikia's Swordsmen listings and if so or not why and how do you think this reflects on things like Mihawks' title if BM and Akainu etc. are in fact considered swordsmen? Do you consider people swordsmen who use a sword even if it's not their primary fighting style? Do you agree DF constructed swords should count? What would make Pica more of a swordsman than Burgess or Tamago both of whom have used guns, knives and physical attacks?
If you take into account ONLY their skills in swordsmanship and nothing else then Mihawk beats everyone in the world of one piece. No matter who it is. Even Shanks.
 

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Bm would wreck mihawk in pieces, yonko > mihawk i cant belive ppl thinking hes even yonko material level.
He is Yonko material. The only reason why he isnt is because he doesn't care for it and he doesnt have a crew. Only a defective pig like yourself and a few others would think that Mihawk is anywhere below Yonko/Admiral level. This isn't opinion. Its a fact. All of the foreshadowing and hints make it obvious and if you wanna argue with me about it when I wake up tomorrow I won't hold back from gaping your asshole. Understood? Ya fuckin' jackass.
 

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I'd say mihawk couldn't even scratch her skin, just like the leader of Elbaf couldnt, or anyone else in the one piece world, besides herself
The leader of elbaf was a nobody who only has a name and place in the story BECAUSE of big mom. Mihawk is a badass MOTHER fucker with cheese who is the Zoro's end goal. And I just realized youre the same person who said Mihawk is barely yonko first mate level. Nigga sitcho was down and stop spewing shit out of your mouth about Mihawk
 

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He is Yonko material. The only reason why he isnt is because he doesn't care for it and he doesnt have a crew. Only a defective pig like yourself and a few others would think that Mihawk is anywhere below Yonko/Admiral level. This isn't opinion. Its a fact. All of the foreshadowing and hints make it obvious and if you wanna argue with me about it when I wake up tomorrow I won't hold back from gaping your asshole. Understood? Ya fuckin' jackass.
Internet thug, ppl got big balls here hah, so far mihawk showed nothing in the manga to be on yonko level. His sparings with shanks are irrelevant. Every yonko got a bigger potrayal and hype then mihawk . Hes below admiral level at best. If we see his " power " one day then i could change my mind bout that son. It dont mater how big of a mihawk fanboy you are, facts are facts XD.
 

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The leader of elbaf was a nobody who only has a name and place in the story BECAUSE of big mom. Mihawk is a badass MOTHER fucker with cheese who is the Zoro's end goal. And I just realized youre the same person who said Mihawk is barely yonko first mate level. Nigga sitcho was down and stop spewing shit out of your mouth about Mihawk
Boi quit running your mouth like a 12 year old whose balls still need to drop, I never said mihawk was barely first mate level, if I did. Show me tough guy. Now ill repeat what I did say, he's not yonko, or admiral level, so he's first mate level, got a problem?
 

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He is Yonko material. The only reason why he isnt is because he doesn't care for it and he doesnt have a crew. Only a defective pig like yourself and a few others would think that Mihawk is anywhere below Yonko/Admiral level. This isn't opinion. Its a fact. All of the foreshadowing and hints make it obvious and if you wanna argue with me about it when I wake up tomorrow I won't hold back from gaping your asshole. Understood? Ya fuckin' jackass.
Nah what's obvious is mihawk said "I wanna measure the difference in our strength". And sent out the world's strongest slash... which got blocked by a 3rd commander tier character.... That showed he isn't even worthy of getting to a yonko. That is foreshadowing you 12 year old balless thug
 

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Nah what's obvious is mihawk said "I wanna measure the difference in our strength". And sent out the world's strongest slash... which got blocked by a 3rd commander tier character.... That showed he isn't even worthy of getting to a yonko. That is foreshadowing you 12 year old balless thug
The biggest tip off to how poor an argument this is is that it thinks "3rd commander tier" is a thing.

Internet thug, ppl got big balls here hah, so far mihawk showed nothing in the manga to be on yonko level. His sparings with shanks are irrelevant. Every yonko got a bigger potrayal and hype then mihawk . Hes below admiral level at best. If we see his " power " one day then i could change my mind bout that son. It dont mater how big of a mihawk fanboy you are, facts are facts XD.
He was able to slash through Aokiji's ice, an Admiral level ability. That slash matched the size of the tsunami created by WB, an Emperor. The slash was bigger than Big Mom's, an attack from another Emperor, and bigger than her wave Homie, another ability from that Emperor. His title puts him above Shanks, another Emperor.
 
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The biggest tip off to how poor an argument this is is that it thinks "3rd commander tier" is a thing.



He was able to slash through Aokiji's ice, an Admiral level ability. That slash matched the size of the tsunami created by WB, an Emperor. The slash was bigger than Big Mom's, an attack from another Emperor, and bigger than her wave Homie, another ability from that Emperor. His title puts him above Shanks, another Emperor.
You're about the dumbest person I've met on this base and I'm not trying to be rude, but 3rd commander tier doesn't exist? I just said it does didn't I? When did anyone ever say any tier existed? Only titles exist in one piece us fans separate them into tiers.

SO YES. JOZU, CRACKER, JACK, ETC are 3rd commander tier. Do you not think these guys are close on power? Please tell me how THEYRE NOT, I think they are so I placed them in the same tier. Problem? How are you gonna solve it?
 

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You're about the dumbest person I've met on this base and I'm not trying to be rude, but 3rd commander tier doesn't exist? I just said it does didn't I? When did anyone ever say any tier existed? Only titles exist in one piece us fans separate them into tiers.

SO YES. JOZU, CRACKER, JACK, ETC are 3rd commander tier. Do you not think these guys are close on power? Please tell me how THEYRE NOT, I think they are so I placed them in the same tier. Problem? How are you gonna solve it?
No, third commander tier doesn't exist because those people aren't a tier below other commanders just because they're third commanders. Jozu isn't that far from Marco that he's in a tier below him, especially not with this justification when 1st division doesn't mean stronger than second or third division. Even the concept of "commander" tier is flawed in general. The most retarded thing this fandom does is the overseparation of tiers. In OP, there's really just top tier, mid tier, and low tier. People separating everything into 3rd commander's barber's janitor's tier is stupid as shit because 90% of the time, you're just confusing "weaker" with "lower tier" when they're not the same thing.
 

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No, third commander tier doesn't exist because those people aren't a tier below other commanders just because they're third commanders. Jozu isn't that far from Marco that he's in a tier below him, especially not with this justification when 1st division doesn't mean stronger than second or third division. Even the concept of "commander" tier is flawed in general. The most retarded thing this fandom does is the overseparation of tiers. In OP, there's really just top tier, mid tier, and low tier. People separating everything into 3rd commander's barber's janitor's tier is stupid as shit because 90% of the time, you're just confusing "weaker" with "lower tier" when they're not the same thing.
Yes he is. There went your argument xD

Marco. Kata. Luffy. Are the same tier. Jozu is not with them
 

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No, third commander tier doesn't exist because those people aren't a tier below other commanders just because they're third commanders. Jozu isn't that far from Marco that he's in a tier below him, especially not with this justification when 1st division doesn't mean stronger than second or third division. Even the concept of "commander" tier is flawed in general. The most retarded thing this fandom does is the overseparation of tiers. In OP, there's really just top tier, mid tier, and low tier. People separating everything into 3rd commander's barber's janitor's tier is stupid as shit because 90% of the time, you're just confusing "weaker" with "lower tier" when they're not the same thing.
Katakuri would massacre Cracker without even breaking a sweat and nothing so far suggests that he cant stomp Smoothie as well.
 

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Katakuri would massacre Cracker without even breaking a sweat and nothing so far suggests that he cant stomp Smoothie as well.
Luffy needed help with cracker and didnt need help with Kata. So where exactly is your proof of all of this bullshit youre spewing from that diseased gaping hole in your face? Kata is stronger but not by much. Again, they are practically the same tier. You and the other guy big mom just talk and talk and talk with no evidence of anything. He would stomp smoothie too? Did you see her fight from the secret spoilers you got from your friend who knows a friend who knows Oda? How do you know what she is capable of?

In closing, you and big mom are both ignorant.
 

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Luffy needed help with cracker and didnt need help with Kata. So where exactly is your proof of all of this bullshit youre spewing from that diseased gaping hole in your face? Kata is stronger but not by much. Again, they are practically the same tier. You and the other guy big mom just talk and talk and talk with no evidence of anything. He would stomp smoothie too? Did you see her fight from the secret spoilers you got from your friend who knows a friend who knows Oda? How do you know what she is capable of?

In closing, you and big mom are both ignorant.
Oh **** that tier bs. Just accept that a character is stronger than another character.

Please make an argument how Cracker will even be able land a hit on Katakuri? Katakuri will foresee everything that is about to hit him and proceed to move his body parts to avoid injury.

Katakuri was tanking hits from G4, the same G4 that was fly swatting the biscuits.

In fact I am confident Katakuri won't even need to resort to using Strong Mochi, his base attacks would stomp Cracker.
 

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Oh **** that tier bs. Just accept that a character is stronger than another character.

Please make an argument how Cracker will even be able land a hit on Katakuri? Katakuri will foresee everything that is about to hit him and proceed to move his body parts to avoid injury.

Katakuri was tanking hits from G4, the same G4 that was fly swatting the biscuits.

In fact I am confident Katakuri won't even need to resort to using Strong Mochi, his base attacks would stomp Cracker.
Katakuri wouldnt even need his awakening xD lmao.
 

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Oh **** that tier bs. Just accept that a character is stronger than another character.

Please make an argument how Cracker will even be able land a hit on Katakuri? Katakuri will foresee everything that is about to hit him and proceed to move his body parts to avoid injury.
Swarm him on all ends with an army of biscuits on all sides.

Katakuri was tanking hits from G4, the same G4 that was fly swatting the biscuits.
You mean the same G4 that sent Katakuri flying a few times, and the same G4 able to be blocked by the biscuits?

In fact I am confident Katakuri won't even need to resort to using Strong Mochi, his base attacks would stomp Cracker.
Considering that Cracker's biscuits are comparable to Strong Mochi, as they fended off a Kong Organ and Nami needed to soak them for Luffy to get through them, Katakuri is definitely needing Strong Mochi.
 
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