Susanoo works Like a Bijuu

[TheUnbiasedOne]

I noticed a few things about Susanoo, but first I will note some things
1. Susanoo is based purely on the users own Chakra.
2. Susanoo is formed in the Brain, and only in the Brain.
3. To control Susanoo and Stabilize it, you have to have immense chakra control, and the ability to overcome the pain of it. (It hurts "every cell in your body" as Sasuke put it.)

So for One, Susanoo has a form before Rib cage. It is in the form of a Chakra Shroud that resembles a V1 Lightning Cloak

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Now I'm not saying it grants extra powers, but it should be noted this flame-like form exists, and could very possibly be a viable counter to jutsu like Amaterasu or C4.

Secondly, the Idea of Breaking Susanoo. A major difference between Susanoo and The Bijuu Avatar is how they are. Susanoo is like a hard glass shield, while the Avatar is like being covered with pillows. The difference is, Susanoo is hollow (Susanoo user's typically don't have the chakra to flesh out a Susanoo, the exception being Iso Susanoo) and Susanoo is easier to replace, where the Avatar is full, and harder to create, and harder to diminish, but allows to user to end up still taking some of the force of the attacks. (Sakura punching the Avatar wouldn't affect the Avatar, but it would Make Naruto feel a very watered down punch. Punching a Susanoo would slightly crack it, but Sasuke would not feel anything)

Susanoo isn't an entity, like Kurama, but to awaken it takes a sense of Emotional Enlightenment, akin to awakening MS. It is an embodiment of the user's mind and will. It does have an emotional standpoint.

Tl;Dr
Susanoo starts from a flame shroud, not the Ribcage.
Susanoo has different properties from a Bijuu Avatar.
Susanoo does have much to do with enlightenment.

 

[Gerkak]

The avatar and susanoo function the same way.

Susanoo isn't hollow if it was the users of susanoo would be flying about inside susanoo if it were to loose balance

 

[TenseiganFTW]

I noticed a few things about Susanoo, but first I will note some things
1. Susanoo is based purely on the users own Chakra.
2. Susanoo is formed in the Brain, and only in the Brain.
3. To control Susanoo and Stabilize it, you have to have immense chakra control, and the ability to overcome the pain of it. (It hurts "every cell in your body" as Sasuke put it.)

So for One, Susanoo has a form before Rib cage. It is in the form of a Chakra Shroud that resembles a V1 Lightning Cloak

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Now I'm not saying it grants extra powers, but it should be noted this flame-like form exists, and could very possibly be a viable counter to jutsu like Amaterasu or C4.

Secondly, the Idea of Breaking Susanoo. A major difference between Susanoo and The Bijuu Avatar is how they are. Susanoo is like a hard glass shield, while the Avatar is like being covered with pillows. The difference is, Susanoo is hollow (Susanoo user's typically don't have the chakra to flesh out a Susanoo, the exception being Iso Susanoo) and Susanoo is easier to replace, where the Avatar is full, and harder to create, and harder to diminish, but allows to user to end up still taking some of the force of the attacks. (Sakura punching the Avatar wouldn't affect the Avatar, but it would Make Naruto feel a very watered down punch. Punching a Susanoo would slightly crack it, but Sasuke would not feel anything)

Susanoo isn't an entity, like Kurama, but to awaken it takes a sense of Emotional Enlightenment, akin to awakening MS. It is an embodiment of the user's mind and will. It does have an emotional standpoint.

Tl;Dr
Susanoo starts from a flame shroud, not the Ribcage.
Susanoo has different properties from a Bijuu Avatar.
Susanoo does have much to do with enlightenment.

Sasuke felt pain even by using Amaterasu since he had MS not EMS,same for Itachi using Tsukuyomi!
You can only overcome it by throwing MS away and getting EMS.
Or if you have Rikudou Chakra or Hashirama's haxed Cells.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Sasuke felt pain even by using Amaterasu since he had MS not EMS.
You can only overcome it by throwing MS away and getting EMS.
Or if you have Rikudou Chakra or Hashirama's haxed Cells.

You must also remember that is the day he awakened Susanoo.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

You must also remember that is the day he awakened Susanoo.

That's not important.
As long as Kakashu had R.C he used P.S without a problem bro...
But when he lost Obito's power he was weakened.
His body wasn't hurting he just couldn't move..

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

The avatar and susanoo function the same way.

Susanoo isn't hollow if it was the users of susanoo would be flying about inside susanoo if it were to loose balance

It is very hollow. Otherwise things like Kurama wouldn't be able to go inside. The user can just choose where things are inside of the susanoo.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

It is very hollow. Otherwise things like Kurama wouldn't be able to go inside. The user can just choose where things are inside of the susanoo.

Not sure.
Sasuke maybe only covered it...
He can make it full and hollow i believe.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

That's not important.
As long as Kakashu had R.C he used P.S without a problem bro...
But when he lost Obito's power he was weakened.
His body wasn't hurting he just couldn't move..

I know. What I'm saying is he was experiencing over exertion. I'm basically just reinforcing the point that all of susanoo is literally the user's chakra pool coming out of them.

 

[Dantee]

They're pratically the same except Narutos Bijjuu mode is special making it more comparable.

 

[Gerkak]

It is very hollow. Otherwise things like Kurama wouldn't be able to go inside. The user can just choose where things are inside of the susanoo.

Kakashi and guy were able to go inside naruto's avatar too by your logic it should be hollow as well. Kurama was never inside it, susanoo was worn around like a coat there is a difference.

If it was hollow a user would be thrown about inside susanoo each time it jumped flew or lost balance, it isn't hollow

 

[TenseiganFTW]

I know. What I'm saying is he was experiencing over exertion. I'm basically just reinforcing the point that all of susanoo is literally the user's chakra pool coming out of them.

Right
Sasuke's chakra became purple cause he got a purple Susanoo i think.
Itachi is red (hot color).
Madara is cold and blue

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Not sure.
Sasuke maybe only covered it...
He can make it full and hollow i believe.

You can also reach in Susanoo and, if it has a hole, what ever made it immediately goes through. He can possiblyake the smaller forms thicker, but he doesn't have the chakra to flesh out a whole PS, nor would it be very useful.

 

[Zee U]

Not sure where you got that Susanoo is hollow thing from, because it certainly isn't in the manga. Only Iso Susanoo is hollow because it needs to coat something.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Kakashi and guy were able to go inside naruto's avatar too by your logic it should be hollow as well. Kurama was never inside it, susanoo was worn around like a coat there is a difference.

If it was hollow a user would be thrown about inside susanoo each time it jumped flew or lost balance, it isn't hollow

Something that is not hollow can not crack, only fracture. Cracking implies there is a hollow center.

 

[Nick01]

Good read.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Not sure where you got that Susanoo is hollow thing from, because it certainly isn't in the manga. Only Iso Susanoo is hollow because it needs to coat something.

I think Susanoo useres can stay inside Susanoo...
They can choose just like Kakashi and Gai stayed inside Naruto's Kurama and they moved out...
I think he is right and i changed my mind now since Gaara put sand under Madara's feers and moved him and then Madara jumped away...
Many people can go inside a Susanooo.
Fc Logic.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Not sure where you got that Susanoo is hollow thing from, because it certainly isn't in the manga. Only Iso Susanoo is hollow because it needs to coat something.

It is hollow, but in the sense of a Green Lantern shield type of hollow. Anything that can be cracked has a hollow space.

 

[The Dancing Camel]

They're pratically the same except Narutos Bijjuu mode is special making it more comparable.

I agree. ^__^

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

"To control Susanoo and Stabilize it, you have to have immense chakra control" that's a bit if-ey as I don't remember anything to support that claim but the rest seemed okay & is common sense, for the most part. Bijuu avatar is more jelly/liquid like and reforms better.

The thing you claim is the susano mode before ribcage might just be chakra that's flame like in shape? Itachi did that too after he got hit with kirin I think. Anyway, all you need to get rid of amaterasu is disposable, exterior chakra. Many, if not every character can do that.

 

[Gerkak]

Something that is not hollow can not crack, only fracture. Cracking implies there is a hollow center.

Glaciers aren't hollow but they still crack

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Even solid rocks crack there is no room for assumptions here.

There is no correlation between cracking and hollowness