Susanoo is useless against FTG

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Lol here is a question for you smart ass fanboys lol.

Will the ftg seal on susanno disappear when sasuke or itachi remake it?Oh didn't think so smart ass kids.Your logic is flawed new creation bares no markings.Lmfao counter that statement because the same trick won't work twice especially on Itachi or Madara.Bye bye fanboys lmfao.

When they lower their Susano'o Minato will just use his extremely fast Body Flicker technique and mark them.

WTF is wrong with you? Didn't you know that Minato has the 2nd fastest running speed? After Naruto in BM.


Trolololol.

I just don't get people like you.

Minato is probably the fastest character in base, but Itachi is most likely the second fastest character in base. He isn't going to get bum rushed by anyone. Especially with the sharingan allowing him to see crazy speeds.

Secondly Minato has absolutely no counters (that we have seen) for Itachi's genjutsu. I'm not saying he doesn't have them, but we can't just make up techniques to give him.

And don't start saying BS about how a kage level ninja can't get caught in a genjutsu. Here is a list of kage level ninja who have been caught by genjutsu:

Danzo
Orochimaru
Deidara
Kakashi
Naruto (admittedly not as smart as the others but he is far more powerful than any of them)
Yagura - (I want to make a special note here, not only is he a Kage, he is also a perfect jinchurikki, which are said to be "immune" to genjutsu)

So there you go.

And by the way Itachi and Minato are my two favorite characters and I always argue for both of them if I think they will win, but unfortunately I am realistic and know that Minato has no counters to genjutsu.

If you go back to past vs threads though I have always put down that I think Minato would probably win were it not for Itachi's genjutsu. I've even given valid arguments why, so don't try and bullsh*t me and say Minato can beat Itachi's genjutsu deal?

Itachi is not the 2nd fastes. And as for Genjutsu. Who knows if he can counter or not. People always say he'll use Tsukuyomi right in the first 2 seconds of the fight.
 
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When they lower their Susano'o Minato will just use his extremely fast Body Flicker technique and mark them.

WTF is wrong with you? Didn't you know that Minato has the 2nd fastest running speed? After Naruto in BM.

Minato is not the second fastest. Minato's base speed is inferior to A in v2, Gai in 7 gates and shisui imo due to the nickname he got for mastery of shunshin
 

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Wrong.He must mark something...then he can teleport to it.
Thats all.
 

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I'm UPSET that I'm so late to this thread. I know my response wont get read by the thread creator so I'll just drop my comment and leave.

You are thinking WAY TOO MUCH on this. Your theory is somewhat right, but why the hell would minato do that? Even if he can teleport "inside" of sussano'o, you have no idea what could happen to him that close. If your arguement is FTG, Jesus just say that he can use his teleportation to "teleport" Rasengans directly inside of Sussano'o. He OBVIOUSLY did exactly this when the 9 Tails shot a TTB at the stone mountain... there was no "marker" there on the monument, but Minato was still able to teleport the TBB to a "safe" location without having markers at either spot. Why not just teleport Rasengans INSIDE of sussano'o and hit the user directly? Minato would not need to put his "body" in harms way, just teleport an army of rasengans Sussano'os way. Victory




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Wrong, i'm there to read your post. :D And +rep I didn't thought that, but it could be possible, but how does he teleport rasengan? It's not as if rasengan is a jutsu he can throw. :shrug:
 

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Minato is not the second fastest. Minato's base speed is inferior to A in v2, Gai in 7 gates and shisui imo due to the nickname he got for mastery of shunshin

You said it... in your opinion. I'm using facts... not opinions. U_U

And we don't know anything about Shisui other than his Genjutsu.
 

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In reactions Minatos base speed is faster than A, but A is faster to run from one place to another without FTG obviously
 

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You said it... in your opinion. I'm using facts... not opinions. U_U

And we don't know anything about Shisui other than his Genjutsu.

The shisui part was where the imo was related because whilst minato got his nickname for ftg, shisui got his for mastery of shunshin and its due to this that i believe he is faster when it comes to shunshin that minato also uses in base.

Secondly A in v2 being faster than minato in base has already been concluded but off course you can believe minato's foot speed is faster than v2 A. Similarly you can also believe minato's foot speed is faster than gai in 7 gates. Base guy alone is no speed slouch, in gates the idea of minato being faster in base is false
 

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The shisui part was where the imo was related because whilst minato got his nickname for ftg, shisui got his for mastery of shunshin and its due to this that i believe he is faster when it comes to shunshin that minato also uses in base.

Secondly A in v2 being faster than minato in base has already been concluded but off course you can believe minato's foot speed is faster than v2 A. Similarly you can also believe minato's foot speed is faster than gai in 7 gates. Base guy alone is no speed slouch, in gates the idea of minato being faster in base is false

Gotcha. :D Thought you said that Shisui was faster.
 

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Gotcha. :D Thought you said that Shisui was faster.

Got me, enlighten me?. For the shishu case because he got the nickname for shunshin yes i believe he is also faster than minato who uses shunshin base
 

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The shisui part was where the imo was related because whilst minato got his nickname for ftg, shisui got his for mastery of shunshin and its due to this that i believe he is faster when it comes to shunshin that minato also uses in base.

Secondly A in v2 being faster than minato in base has already been concluded but off course you can believe minato's foot speed is faster than v2 A. Similarly you can also believe minato's foot speed is faster than gai in 7 gates. Base guy alone is no speed slouch, in gates the idea of minato being faster in base is false

Show me where it has been stated in the manga, databooks or anything related to kishimoto that Minato got his nickname by ftg
 

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Minato didn't received his nickname only cuz of FTG. Proof is that he was complimented as a yellow flash by Tobi when he was using his base speed
 

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Show me where it has been stated in the manga, databooks or anything related to kishimoto that Minato got his nickname by ftg

*Sigh*. Anyway there you go;


Hiraishin no Jutsu
User(s): Yondaime Hokage
Rank: S
TNG: Ninjutsu
Range: Close, Mid, Far
Type: Supplementary

Description:
"Flight across space and time completed in a flash-like instant!!"
"Swiftness that surpasses Shunshin!"
Yondaime Hokage's jutsu, the reason for his alias "Yellow Flash"! His high-speed movement over long distances...it is really "space-time movement".
To activate the jutsu, he needs a "jutsu-shiki" to mark the destination.
Yondaime applies a "jutsu-shiki" to weapons such as kunai in advance. It is also
possible to leave it in a touched area, and when it is engraved on an enemy's
body, it becomes a curse seal with a sentence of death!

Second Databook, page 266
 

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I've just notice a pic that helps again to notice that there a radius where Minato can teleport people or things. This is it:
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You can see that Minato was on Gamabunta. He didn't touched the Kyubi at all. But he managed to teleport the Kyubi elsewhere without touching him. And he can even decide who/what to teleport since Gamabunta wasn't teleported in the process

Btw this pic also shows how fast Minato's base speed is. You could notice that he was in a mountain when Kyubi was launching his TBB, far from the kyubi, but in an instant he was able to reach him(without markings) and summon Gamabunta on him. His base speed is insane xd
 
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ok, for all of u trolls saying kakashi has little chakra, look at itachis stats, his stamina(chakra) is 2.5 while kakashis is 3. what now?????
 

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Like the title says, i believe Minato could go through Susanoo without problems.
People always believe that Minato needs necessarly to teleport "on" his kunai, which is wrong, and you can see it here:
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Like you can see, his kunai is far from him, but he appeared on the blanket where at home.

The FTG jutsu has a area where Minato can teleport himself or someone else or an object, and this area is what he used here to teleport the TBB:
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Like you can see, he was far from it, but he managed to use his FTG seal to teleport it elsewhere. That prove again that FTG jutsu has a area where Minato is allowed to teleport himself.

What i mean with it? It's that Minato doesn't need to break through Susanoo to go through. If the kunai or the marking is near Susanoo, he could decide where he could teleport himself near this area and actually go inside Susanoo easily.

That's what i think, so what's your opinion about it?:scorps:

I don't see any problem with this....+ rep
 

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You're thinking the wrong way as far as what tech he would use. I don't think the kunai would work but if he ever touches the user of susanoo, and marks them they're truly fu***d.
 

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Minato can teleport a good distance from his kunai bypassing Susanoo.
 
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