Susanoo is useless against FTG

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oh my my ___ this fight is like never ending
 

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You may be right, daga, I'm here to destroy your hopes and dreams. Even if this were possible, it's never going to happen in the Anime or the Manga, so get real bro. Itachi is still superior in my opinion ;)
 

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It's really funny to see how Minato fanboys takes what Itachi said regard that (every Jutsu has a weakness) as an example, then say (how can Itachi counter FTG..?)

What a bunch of hypocrites..
 

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i think minato teleports to a proximate location of his marked kunai, but not necessarily too near to impale himself......... and susano'o will definitely lose to flying raijin level 2.
 

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i think minato teleports to a proximate location of his marked kunai, but not necessarily too near to impale himself......... and susano'o will definitely lose to flying raijin level 2.

I just cracked my ribs laughing at your efontry how does minato tag ppl when susano is active
 

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I just cracked my ribs laughing at your efontry how does minato tag ppl when susano is active

I think you should read the first post properly.
He's explaining that you don't have to teleport to the kunai/tag but to an area around the kunai/tag. So If the radius, in which you can teleport yourself, from the tag is i.e 10m you could easily teleport yourself into Susanoo when the Susanoo user stands 2m away from the kunai/tag. Do you get it now or do you still need some help?
 

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Like the title says, i believe Minato could go through Susanoo without problems.
People always believe that Minato needs necessarly to teleport "on" his kunai, which is wrong, and you can see it here:
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Like you can see, his kunai is far from him, but he appeared on the blanket where at home.

The FTG jutsu has a area where Minato can teleport himself or someone else or an object, and this area is what he used here to teleport the TBB:
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Like you can see, he was far from it, but he managed to use his FTG seal to teleport it elsewhere. That prove again that FTG jutsu has a area where Minato is allowed to teleport himself.

What i mean with it? It's that Minato doesn't need to break through Susanoo to go through. If the kunai or the marking is near Susanoo, he could decide where he could teleport himself near this area and actually go inside Susanoo easily.

That's what i think, so what's your opinion about it?:scorps:



I'm UPSET that I'm so late to this thread. I know my response wont get read by the thread creator so I'll just drop my comment and leave.

You are thinking WAY TOO MUCH on this. Your theory is somewhat right, but why the hell would minato do that? Even if he can teleport "inside" of sussano'o, you have no idea what could happen to him that close. If your arguement is FTG, Jesus just say that he can use his teleportation to "teleport" Rasengans directly inside of Sussano'o. He OBVIOUSLY did exactly this when the 9 Tails shot a TTB at the stone mountain... there was no "marker" there on the monument, but Minato was still able to teleport the TBB to a "safe" location without having markers at either spot. Why not just teleport Rasengans INSIDE of sussano'o and hit the user directly? Minato would not need to put his "body" in harms way, just teleport an army of rasengans Sussano'os way. Victory




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I think you should read the first post properly.
He's explaining that you don't have to teleport to the kunai/tag but to an area around the kunai/tag. So If the radius, in which you can teleport yourself, from the tag is i.e 10m you could easily teleport yourself into Susanoo when the Susanoo user stands 2m away from the kunai/tag. Do you get it now or do you still need some help?

calm down lol. I get a little of what you are saying but there has been previous argument about this in the beginning of this thread, minato throws a kunai and itachi simply watches as the kunai moves towards him ?
 

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Well, even if FTG allows Minato to teleport himself to a general are around the marking that allows him to teleport... I'm not sure if he can actually teleport into Susano'o that way. It might be possible, but not feasible.

My theory is that Minato has to mark the user of Susano'o before that person activates it. Once that person is marked, then he can teleport into Susano'o and do what he has to. But remember that Minato never showed all of his Techs. He might have a strong enough Tech to do damage to Susano'o... and don't forget his strong Summons as well. There's lots we don't know about Minato.
 

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I'm UPSET that I'm so late to this thread. I know my response wont get read by the thread creator so I'll just drop my comment and leave.

You are thinking WAY TOO MUCH on this. Your theory is somewhat right, but why the hell would minato do that? Even if he can teleport "inside" of sussano'o, you have no idea what could happen to him that close. If your arguement is FTG, Jesus just say that he can use his teleportation to "teleport" Rasengans directly inside of Sussano'o. He OBVIOUSLY did exactly this when the 9 Tails shot a TTB at the stone mountain... there was no "marker" there on the monument, but Minato was still able to teleport the TBB to a "safe" location without having markers at either spot. Why not just teleport Rasengans INSIDE of sussano'o and hit the user directly? Minato would not need to put his "body" in harms way, just teleport an army of rasengans Sussano'os way. Victory




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I sincerely hope that you are joking.
 

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i congratulate minator for at least posting evidence in his arguement, but saying itachi can't control toad summons on low chakra is wrong, sauske controlled manda who is stronger than gamabuta even though he barely had any chakra left (Sasuke V deidara )
 

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i congratulate minator for at least posting evidence in his arguement, but saying itachi can't control toad summons on low chakra is wrong, sauske controlled manda who is stronger than gamabuta even though he barely had any chakra left (Sasuke V deidara )

:sy: Minato can remove Itachi's control from the Summon. Remember Minato taking Tobi's control away from him? When he controlled Kurama?

WTF are you doing? :flaw:
 

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I do not understand why this has become an issue for anybody.

If Itachi uses Susanoo he has no way of hitting Minato.
It takes too much chakra and hurts his body (even in health).

I doubt Itachi would use Susanoo for anything other than summons.

If Itachi uses it as a defense as you guys suggest then you disrespect Itachi for thinking him to be so dumb.

Now If Itachi is smart and can find a way to use Tsyukiyomi then he can win. But Minato has time on his side which is what a lot of battles come down to.
Minato wins more times than Itachi.

But I have no doubt that this is mostly a knowledge battle.
Minato knows the Uchiha and knows about their Gen. But the ones that would work on him such as finger or crow are low level and Minato is a Hokage who undoubtably is better at gen. defense than Naruto or fodder. And a small toad can help him out of it if he summons it.

Frankly I dont like either due to the base but Itachi is the one I favor and He is better in most fights than Minato but Minato is more likely to win.
 

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:sy: Minato can remove Itachi's control from the Summon. Remember Minato taking Tobi's control away from him? When he controlled Kurama?

WTF are you doing? :flaw:

Remember how he has to touch the opponent to do so?

Itachi is not the type of opponent to rush at someone outright. It just isn't his style.
 

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Remember how he has to touch the opponent to do so?

Itachi is not the type of opponent to rush at someone outright. It just isn't his style.

Remember how Minato likes close combat and likes to finish fights quick? Itachi is the one who has to worry.

And even if Itachi starts using MS... he is going to run out of chakra way to fast. I'm no Minato fan, but Minato has a higher chance of beating Itachi.
 

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Lol here is a question for you smart ass fanboys lol.

Will the ftg seal on susanno disappear when sasuke or itachi remake it?Oh didn't think so smart ass kids.Your logic is flawed new creation bares no markings.Lmfao counter that statement because the same trick won't work twice especially on Itachi or Madara.Bye bye fanboys lmfao.
 

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Remember how Minato likes close combat and likes to finish fights quick? Itachi is the one who has to worry.

And even if Itachi starts using MS... he is going to run out of chakra way to fast. I'm no Minato fan, but Minato has a higher chance of beating Itachi.

Trolololol.

I just don't get people like you.

Minato is probably the fastest character in base, but Itachi is most likely the second fastest character in base. He isn't going to get bum rushed by anyone. Especially with the sharingan allowing him to see crazy speeds.

Secondly Minato has absolutely no counters (that we have seen) for Itachi's genjutsu. I'm not saying he doesn't have them, but we can't just make up techniques to give him.

And don't start saying BS about how a kage level ninja can't get caught in a genjutsu. Here is a list of kage level ninja who have been caught by genjutsu:

Danzo
Orochimaru
Deidara
Kakashi
Naruto (admittedly not as smart as the others but he is far more powerful than any of them)
Yagura - (I want to make a special note here, not only is he a Kage, he is also a perfect jinchurikki, which are said to be "immune" to genjutsu)

So there you go.

And by the way Itachi and Minato are my two favorite characters and I always argue for both of them if I think they will win, but unfortunately I am realistic and know that Minato has no counters to genjutsu.

If you go back to past vs threads though I have always put down that I think Minato would probably win were it not for Itachi's genjutsu. I've even given valid arguments why, so don't try and bullsh*t me and say Minato can beat Itachi's genjutsu deal?
 

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What i never get is why people think any susano user needs its complete version against minato, v1 is more than enough

We have already seen that minato's main attack, rasengan and kunai havent been successful against v1 susano users. Why would a susano user activate its final form when its v1 stage alone is enough to protect the user from such laugable attacks. :shrug:

Danzo's kunai broke against sasuke's Incomplete susano;
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Odoma sage rasengan left no scratch on v1 susano and that rasengan is alot stronger than the basic rasengan;
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Why would a susano user waste chakra and activate its final form when its v1 stage which takes less chakra than its more advanced form alone is enough to protect them against such attacking option U_U
 
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