Susano'o durability gauntlet

[Zee U]

^ you sure about a ribcage tanking Shannaro punch? And about Armoured tanking C0?

Now that i realise i forgot that EMS Madara's ribcage was in a state between ribcage and skeletal (spinal cord and bigger ribs), so a standard ribcage either suffers heavy damage or gets busted.

Considering Manda was stabbed by Tsunade using only her lifting strenght (which isn't amped by CES, or am i wrong?) and wasn't killed (atleast directly, considering he died afterwards) by C0, heck he wasn't even dismembered or vaped, i'm pretty confident that V4 can tank it since Hirudora destroyed V3 and injured Madara, and a V4 has another layer of defense. The gulf between it and a V3 is way bigger than that between a V3 and a V2, afterall between those two states there is a small layer of chakra (akin to skin like in a human body) while between the other two there is a armor that is thick and larger than the construct.

Also Deidara's explosive techs never carried that much of energy per area (seeing in C3 and C2's cases iirc, large explosions that inflicted not that much damage like you would be expecting, unlike Bijuudama and Jinton).

 

[Icelerate]

Senpou: Goemon

None but moderate damage on ribcage susanoo.

Chou Oodama Rasengan

Shannaro punch

Moderate damage to V2, ribcage is completely busted with user killed.

C3

Destroys V2 but user survives and does moderate damage to V3.

C0

Destroys and kills the user inside a V3 susanoo. A V4 susanoo probably gets destroyed as well with the user surviving.

Hirudora

V3 gets destroyed and V4 takes moderate damage.

Joki Boy

If at the very epicentre, it can destroy a ribcage but the user survives. A V2 susanoo tanks with low-medium damage.

Double Lariat

Moderate damage to ribcage. Ay's hits on susanoo were barely doing damage even with help from Onoki so adding an equal force turns that damage to medium. Moreover,

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even if you multiply it by two.

360 degree Chou Shinra Tensei

V3 susanoo if at the epicentre but the user survives. V4 takes moderate damage.

Focused Chou Shinra Tensei

V4 gets destroyed with the user surviving.

Tenpenchii

Ribcage takes low-medium damage as fodders with cloaks didn't take any noticeable damage.

Juubi laser

Destroys all except PS which takes moderate to heavy damage.

3 Fingered Nukite

Does moderate-high damage to V2 susanoo.

1 Fingered Nukite

Goes through V4 susanoo and kills the user.

Daikodan

If we are not taking its chakra absorbing capability into account, it probably busts a ribcage susanoo killing the user but doing moderate damage to V2 susanoo.

Jinton

V4 gets destroyed and the user killed. PS tanks without damage.

Food Cart Destroyer

This attack's destructive capability gets overrated all the time. The

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which is a lot weaker compared to War Arc Tsunade's whose punch was only

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, not destroying, ribcage susanoo. All in all, it only does low damage to ribcage susanoo but the weight of the toad will keep on dealing damage to the ribcage susanoo and over time destroying it completely but the attack itself does little damage. Furthermore, FCD distributes its energy over a surface area as large as the toad's body whereas Tsunade's punch which only did moderate damage to ribcage has all of its energy distributed within the surface area of her fist.

Rock fist + weighted rock technique (

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Ay's fist which is stronger than Onoki's rock fist coupled by Ay's speed enhanced by the weighted rock technique only managed to do a

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to a V3 susanoo so a much weaker Rock fist + weighted rock technique which only managed to destroy a clam is only doing low damage to ribcage susanoo.

KN4 Naruto's bijuudama

Probably destroys V2 susanoo but the user survives.

Gojou Kibakufuda

V4 susanoo probably gets destroyed. It is a continuous chain of explosions so as long as the explosions continue, any non PS will eventually get destroyed.

Gatsuuga

Current Kiba is much stronger than part one Kiba and his three headed wolf is three times as strong as the double headed wolf as per the databook. Taking into account that part one Kiba with double headed wolf was doing quite a bit of damage to a Rashoman gate, I'd say a much stronger Kiba with a technique three times as strong could plow through multiple Rashoman gates. He should be able to do heavy damage to a ribcage susanoo at the very least.

BM Choji's punch

Has a lot of destructive power but his fist is very big so that power is unfocussed. I'd say ribcage takes it with medium to high damage.

BM Choji's Human boulder

Did this even do much damage to the ground? Ribcage susanoo tanks with low-medium damage.

Gentle Fist

Depends on the gentle fist user.

Hiashi's air palm

Busts ribcage and damages the user.

Kakuzu's fuuton (

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No damage to any susanoo.

Sacred Paper Emissary (

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Destroys ribcage susanoo. Again this is a continuous attack so its damage will build up continuously as time passes. In the end, I could see V2 susanoo taking a lot of damage.

Gaara's strongest sand coffin

Depends on how much sand he's used in his strongest sand coffin.

Single bijuu tail smack

Heavy damage to ribcage susanoo.

Collective bijuu tail smack (all 9 bijuu)

Probably V4 susanoo as it destroyed a senjutsu enhanced V3 susanoo.

Katsuyu acid

Ribcage gets melted but the user survives.

Kitsuchi's rock sandwich

Destroys V2 susanoo and probably crushes the user.

 

[Apêx1]

Senpou: Goemon

Stops at Ribcage

Chou Oodama Rasengan

Destroys v1, tanked by v2

Shannaro punch

Destroys Ribcage

C3

Destroys v2 at the epicentre of the explosion

C0

Destroys v4 at the epicentre

Hirudora

Destroys v3, tanked by v4

Joki Boy

Decent damage to v1

Double Lariat

Destroys v1

360 degree Chou Shinra Tensei

Destroys v1, moderate damage to v2

Focused Chou Shinra Tensei

Destroys v3, moderate damage to v4

Tenpenchii

Tanked by v1

Juubi laser

Moderate damage to PS

3 Fingered Nukite

Tanked by v2

1 Fingered Nukite

Pierces through PS

Daikodan

Absorbs any Susano bar PS, which would be too large

Jinton

Stops at v4

Food Cart Destroyer

Stops at v1

Rock fist + weighted rock technique (

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Stops at v2

KN4 Naruto's bijuudama

Tanked by v1

Gojou Kibakufuda

Tanked by v2, destroys it at the epicentre.

Gatsuuga

Bypasses v1.

BM Choji's punch

Destroys v1, tanked by v2.

BM Choji's Human boulder

Destroys v1m tanked by v2.

Gentle Fist

Destroys v2, tanked by v3.

Hiashi's air palm

Destroys v3, tanked by v4.

Kakuzu's fuuton (

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Tanked by v1.

Sacred Paper Emissary (

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Destroys v3, moderate damage to v4.

Gaara's strongest sand coffin

Tanked by v1.

Single bijuu tail smack

Moderate damage to v1

Collective bijuu tail smack (all 9 bijuu)

Stops at v4.

Katsuyu acid

Stops at v2

Kitsuchi's rock sandwich

Destroys v2, tanked by v3.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

People have vastly different opinions here. Thats new.

 

[Bolt Rules]

If this is Itachi's Susanoo Yata repels all GG

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

The Gedo didn't effortlessly stop it. He used Raiton of an equal scale to stop it because it couldn't hold it much longer.

The Jubi being skinny doesn't make it have terrible strength either. Regardless of what forms its in, its still more durable than any Susanoo.

lWhat? Where is your proof that he couldn't hold it much longer? Not only was he holding the two rocks in place, but he was cracking them, with his own two hands.

Then go ahead and show me some of its strength feats. In its first form it was effortlessly sending Biju Naruto and Hachibi flying back with a swing of its arm. In the second form its tails got repelled by Kyubi chakra enhanced Kaiten, and its tails are bigger then its arms in its skinny form. It does not matter how durable it is, because the rocks never hurt the Jubi in the first place. What matters is its strength, because it was not able to push back the two rocks, for your argument that is. I'm telling you that its strength in that form is not in the slightest impressive, so just because it was held in place by the two rocks does not mean the rocks will be destroying the higher stages of Susanoo.

 

[Icelerate]

Kishimoto not drawing the crack=/=Crack not being there. Kishimoto makes drawing errors. Kishimoto fails to draw Edo Cracks on the Zombies, doesn't mean that they aren't there. Not to mention Susanoo doesn't restore itself. Never has never will. When it's damaged the damage sticks unless the user levels up the Susanoo or puts it back up, assuming it was destroyed.

Not to mention why don't you use common sense. Tsunade hit it once, and failed to destroy it, yet you think hitting it again is going to let her completely blow it open? So no, Tsunade cannot destroy a Ribcage Susanoo in one hit. It took 3 attacks, 2 from her and 1 from Onoki and Ay to do that.

While it is true that Kishi can make drawing errors, the chance of him making a drawing error is relatively low than him showing the true picture. Susanoo doesn't restore itself but the susanoo user has the ability to repair damage to susanoo. Sasuke's susanoo has a

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Now that i realise i forgot that EMS Madara's ribcage was in a state between ribcage and skeletal (spinal cord and bigger ribs), so a standard rib cage either suffers heavy damage or gets busted.

Madara's ribcage never went up against a punch from Sakura so what is your point?

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[Beans2]

This attack's destructive capability gets overrated all the time. The

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isn't that much stronger than

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which is a lot weaker compared to War Arc Tsunade's whose punch was only

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, not destroying, ribcage susanoo. All in all, it only does low damage to ribcage susanoo but the weight of the toad will keep on dealing damage to the ribcage susanoo and over time destroying it completely but the attack itself does little damage. Furthermore, FCD distributes its energy over a surface area as large as the toad's body whereas Tsunade's punch which only did moderate damage to ribcage has all of its energy distributed within the surface area of her fist.

I disagree with FCD's impact being on the same level as EP2 Sakura's punch. It's pretty obvious FCD has a greater impact when Killer Bee was dwarfed by the rocks and debris created by the impact whereas Sakura's punch's impact only had a diameter of a few meters and wasn't that big compared to Naruto. Also we saw the total impact of Sakura's punch whereas we only see the damage caused by FCD directly in front of the toad, not on its sides or behind it. I wasn't talking about just the impact itself anyway since (as you noted) you have to factor in the weight of the toad pressing down on Susano'o over time and putting tremendous pressure on it and at least a V2 Susano'o is needed to push the toad off and release the pressure the toad is applying to the Susano'o. Or, a powerful enough Susano'o slash would kill the toad and cause it to vanish in a puff of smoke therefore releasing the pressure.

Also, why do you think GFK would bust a V4 whereas Paper Ocean would only bust a ribcage when they are basically the same technique?

 

[Icelerate]

I disagree with FCD's impact being on the same level as EP2 Sakura's punch. It's pretty obvious FCD has a greater impact when Killer Bee was dwarfed by the rocks and debris created by the impact whereas Sakura's punch's impact only had a diameter of a few meters and wasn't that big compared to Naruto. Also we saw the total impact of Sakura's punch whereas we only see the damage caused by FCD directly in front of the toad, not on its sides or behind it. I wasn't talking about just the impact itself anyway since (as you noted) you have to factor in the weight of the toad pressing down on Susano'o over time and putting tremendous pressure on it and at least a V2 Susano'o is needed to push the toad off and release the pressure the toad is applying to the Susano'o. Or, a powerful enough Susano'o slash would kill the toad and cause it to vanish in a puff of smoke therefore releasing the pressure.

Also, why do you think GFK would bust a V4 whereas Paper Ocean would only bust a ribcage when they are basically the same technique?

I did say FCD is stronger but it is a lot weaker than Yin Seal Sakura's punch yet people are saying FCD does more damage than her punch even though it is closer in power to EP2 Sakura's punch. You also ignored my argument about the force of the FCD being distributed over the surface area of the toad while Sakura/Tsunade's punch are focussed in a fist.

I feel as if GKF is more concentrated with paper tag bombs than Konan's jutsu. That is just how the two explosions compare.

 

[Beans2]

I did say FCD is stronger but it is a lot weaker than Yin Seal Sakura's punch yet people are saying FCD does more damage than her punch even though it is closer in power to EP2 Sakura's punch. You also ignored my argument about the force of the FCD being distributed over the surface area of the toad while Sakura/Tsunade's punch are focussed in a fist.

I feel as if GKF is more concentrated with paper tag bombs than Konan's jutsu. That is just how the two explosions compare.

FCD's impact is much stronger than EP2 Sakura punch and much weaker than her war arc Shannaro punch IMO. And ok

 

[TRE MERCER]

Shannaro would plow through a rib cage.

People need to realize there is a difference between EMS Rib cage and MS rib cage

EMS Rib cage- .(

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MS rib cage- .(

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Difference is the bolts in the EMS rib cage plus it's bigger and covers the entire body while MS is simple 3 or 4 lines and doesn't cover the front. ​

 

[Apêx1]

Shannaro would plow through a rib cage.

People need to realize there is a difference between EMS Rib cage and MS rib cage

EMS Rib cage- .(

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MS rib cage- .(

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Difference is the bolts in the EMS rib cage plus it's bigger and covers the entire body while MS is simple 3 or 4 lines and doesn't cover the front. ​

Sasuke has used a normal 'MS Ribcage' against DSM Kabuto, meaning this Ribcage is merely a hybrid of v1 and v2.

 

[KidGamer65]

While it is true that Kishi can make drawing errors, the chance of him making a drawing error is relatively low than him showing the true picture. Susanoo doesn't restore itself but the susanoo user has the ability to repair damage to susanoo. Sasuke's susanoo has a hole created by Danzo's fuuton but it no longer has the hole later on.

That's pretty much the same thing I was arguing against, and no Susanoo user has ever shown to be able to do that. No chakra construct user has ever shown to be able to repair their chakra construct on the spot. Sasuke didn't repair Susanoo. Not only are they showing it from the side, so you can't even see the hole. The flaps that are there because of the hole are still there, meaning it wasn't repaired. [

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[Nattana]

That's pretty much the same thing I was arguing against, and no Susanoo user has ever shown to be able to do that. No chakra construct user has ever shown to be able to repair their chakra construct on the spot. Sasuke didn't repair Susanoo. Not only are they showing it from the side, so you can't even see the hole. The flaps that are there because of the hole are still there, meaning it wasn't repaired. [

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Deactivating and activating Susano'o repairs all the damage done doe, doesn't it?

 

[KidGamer65]

Deactivating and activating Susano'o repairs all the damage done doe, doesn't it?

Possibly. Most likely, but that doesn't mean that users can repair it right on the spot.

 

[RedRobin]

Possibly. Most likely, but that doesn't mean that users can repair it right on the spot.

Anyway I just realized something, he

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to let out his katon so he repaired the damage when closing it at that time.

 

[Nattana]

Possibly. Most likely, but that doesn't mean that users can repair it right on the spot.

Yeah, that is true.

 

[KidGamer65]

Anyway I just realized something, he

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to let out his katon so he repaired the damage when closing it at that time.

Susanoo users never have to open their Susanoo up to let Katon or anything out.

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So no, he didn't.

 

[RedRobin]

Susanoo users never have to open their Susanoo up to let Katon or anything out.

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So no, he didn't.

I see.

 

[RedRobin]

That's pretty much the same thing I was arguing against, and no Susanoo user has ever shown to be able to do that. No chakra construct user has ever shown to be able to repair their chakra construct on the spot. Sasuke didn't repair Susanoo. Not only are they showing it from the side, so you can't even see the hole. The flaps that are there because of the hole are still there, meaning it wasn't repaired. [

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Hole is obviously gone

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Lower left panel.