Surely Kidōmaru > Hidan?

[Obito3631]

By evading Hidan with his 4.5 in speed. It'll be pretty easy considering Hidan's 3.5. You ask for feats, he has none because of his opponents don't rush. However, he is obviously leagues faster than Hidan due to what Kishi out in his databook, and the fact that he had to have been avoiding enemy soldiers in the world war he fought in.
We've already moved on from Hiruko, I thought we established that? But even if Hidan hits Hiruko, it's not like he'll even scratch him. Puppet Armor.

Now then, 3rd Kazekage, what does Hidan do?

I'm thinking on going to bed in a second so please just tell me what Hidan does against 3rd Kazekage or the Red Move. No bullshit, how does he counter those attacks.

Yet Kakashi who has 4.5 in speed and has the sharingan wasn't able to get away from Hidan, that kind of contradict your whole theory.

Not to mention that Sasori has zero speed feats in any of his forms unlike Kakashi. He wouldn't be able to escape from Hidan as he can throw his scythe and manipulate it so it scratches his heart and draw some of his blood.

 

[Retsu]

Kidomaru beats the everlasting shit out of Hidan over and over, this guy found neji's blind spot, he's a friggin tactical genius and we've already seen it stated that the thread he shoots can't be cut by normal means which includes that pathetic scythe. Hidan is a one trick pony who could never dream of avoiding kidomaru's arrow which would easily split one's head in half or completely take it off altogether.

If neji can't do it then Hidan has a 0% chance as he already stated his attacks to be the slowest in the akatsuki, Hidan is nothing more than a voo doo zombie that just happens to be a ninja, 1 on 1 any number of mid level jounin can beat him, Asuma even chopped his head off, he's only deadly with kakuzu, cuz he can put him back together.

Even f you don't kill hidan once you disable his scythe and spikes he's pretty much done, a ninja who can channel lightning into a blade such as sasuke or Bee would wipe out Hidan in seconds, Kidomaru, is definitely a top dog in a fight with some like Hidan who can for the most part only attack in close range. Hidan loses this 100 times out of 100 times.

 

[HiddenSound]

Yet Kakashi who has 4.5 in speed and has the sharingan wasn't able to get away from Hidan, that kind of contradict your whole theory.

Not to mention that Sasori has zero speed feats in any of his forms unlike Kakashi. He wouldn't be able to escape from Hidan as he can throw his scythe and manipulate it so it scratches his heart and draw some of his blood.

No counter to Iron Sand. Huh. Didn't see that one coming.

Did Kakashi eventually get away from Hidan? I guess he did because he never got his blood drained. Well, if he did it was only because of Shikamaru's plan to fool Kakuzu and Hidan. I don't remember, but dodging and summoning at the same time should be no problem for someone like Sasori. Taijutsu is Hidan's main attack, while Sasori is a long-range puppeteer, of course he has shown no speed feats. However, reading what I said, his speed is 4.5, and he fought in a world war where he fought enough to be known as Sasori of the Red Sand. You tell me he isn't fast.

But either way, he's too dumb to realize Sasori's core is his only weak spot, that scythe won't even scratch Hiruko, he's not fast enough to get the real Sasori with one hit, he has no chance against 3rd Kazekage and his Iron Sand, and he will be defeated undoubtedly within moments of Sasori's Red Move, Sasori won't fall for any of Hidan's tricks as Sasori is far more intelligent than Hidan, and finally, while not killing Hidan, Sasori's poison will be doing some form of damage against Hidan. He's not some super-human, if he can die from body failure like malnutrition then poison will affect him. Also, Sasori's puppets house many, many blades, which can dismember Hidan. If Hidan bashes Sasori apart somehow, he can merely reassemble.

Okay, I got that finished, now I'm going to sleep. I can only get on at night unfortunately.

Btw, I'm still waiting for that pay back.

 

[Obito3631]

Kidomaru beats the everlasting shit out of Hidan over and over, this guy found neji's blind spot, he's a friggin tactical genius and we've already seen it stated that the thread can't be cut by normal means which includes that pathetic scythe. Hidan is a one trick pony who could never dream of avoiding kidomaru's arrow which would easily split one's head in half or completely take it off altogether.

If neji can't do it then Hidan has a 0% chance as he already stated his attacks to be the slowest in the akatsuki, Hidan is nothing more than a voo doo zombie that just happens to be a ninja, 1 on 1 any number of mid level jounin can beat him, Asuma even chopped his head off, he's only deadly with kakuzu, cuz he can put him back together.

Even f you don't kill hidan once you disable his scythe and spikes he's pretty much done, a ninja who can channel lightning into a blade such as sasuke or Bee would wipe out Hidan in seconds, Kidomaru, is definitely a top dog in a fight with some like Hidan who can for the most part only attack in close range. Hidan loses this 100 times out of 100 times.

Your post contains so many fails I wonder if you ever read the manga, doesn't seem like it.


"1 on 1 any number of mid level jounin can beat him"

This right here, f*cking this.

Stupidest shit I've heard in a while. Hidan soloed Asuma (a high level jonin) in 5 seconds, he could have killed him right away if Shikamaru wasn't there. Asuma could only chop his head off because he was assisted, he didn't last 5 f*cking second in a 1 vs 1 fight against Hidan ROFL.

 

[Obito3631]

No counter to Iron Sand. Huh. Didn't see that one coming.

Did Kakashi eventually get away from Hidan? I guess he did because he never got his blood drained. Well, if he did it was only because of Shikamaru's plan to fool Kakuzu and Hidan. I don't remember, but dodging and summoning at the same time should be no problem for someone like Sasori. Taijutsu is Hidan's main attack, while Sasori is a long-range puppeteer, of course he has shown no speed feats. However, reading what I said, his speed is 4.5, and he fought in a world war where he fought enough to be known as Sasori of the Red Sand. You tell me he isn't fast.

But either way, he's too dumb to realize Sasori's core is his only weak spot, that scythe won't even scratch Hiruko, he's not fast enough to get the real Sasori with one hit, he has no chance against 3rd Kazekage and his Iron Sand, and he will be defeated undoubtedly within moments of Sasori's Red Move, Sasori won't fall for any of Hidan's tricks as Sasori is far more intelligent than Hidan, and finally, while not killing Hidan, Sasori's poison will be doing some form of damage against Hidan. He's not some super-human, if he can die from body failure like malnutrition then poison will affect him. Also, Sasori's puppets house many, many blades, which can dismember Hidan. If Hidan bashes Sasori apart somehow, he can merely reassemble.

Okay, I got that finished, now I'm going to sleep. I can only get on at night unfortunately.

Btw, I'm still waiting for that pay back.

Why would he need a counter to Iron sand if he won't have time to pull it off anyway?

Actually Kakashi has the sharingan, something Sasori doesn't have, that's the only reason he didn't get his blood drawn. Sasori doesn't stand a chance if Hidan pressures him in CQC, he's worthless in taijutsu combat.

Again, his databook speed doesn't mean anything, you can't even provide a single speed feat Sasori has which contradict your entire point. How does the fact that he fought in the war prove anything? We can clearly see that you're running out of argument. As far as i know he isn't known as the yellow flash, f*cking lol, red sand..

Sasori is a midget, one scythe slash would tear him apart it's not even funny. Hidan doesn't need to know he has to hit his core since one scythe slash would scratch his whole body including his heart. Besides, any fool would know the core is what you need to aim for.

The poison argument has already been refuted, it's not debatable, the poison is useless against Hidan, you need to find something else.

Basically Sasori cannot kill Hidan while he's in Hiruko and Hidan will immediately pressure him in CQC as soon as he comes out and get his blood since he has no way to defend himself, in conclusion Sasori has no hope of winning.

 

[Howdidthesenjudie]

Why would he need a counter to Iron sand if he won't have time to pull it off anyway?

Actually Kakashi has the sharingan, something Sasori doesn't have, that's the only reason he didn't get his blood drawn. Sasori doesn't stand a chance if Hidan pressures him in CQC, he's worthless in taijutsu combat.

Again, his databook speed doesn't mean anything, you can't even provide a single speed feat Sasori has which contradict your entire point. How does the fact that he fought in the war prove anything? We can clearly see that you're running out of argument. As far as i know he isn't known as the yellow flash, f*cking lol, red sand..

Sasori is a midget, one scythe slash would tear him apart it's not even funny. Hidan doesn't need to know he has to hit his core since one scythe slash would scratch his whole body including his heart. Besides, any fool would know the core is what you need to aim for.

The poison argument has already been refuted, it's not debatable, the poison is useless against Hidan, you need to find something else.

Basically Sasori cannot kill Hidan while he's in Hiruko and Hidan will immediately pressure him in CQC as soon as he comes out and get his blood since he has no way to defend himself, in conclusion Sasori has no hope of winning.

Your are the biggest fanboy I have ever seen. Hidan has no chance agains't Sasori. You say Sasori won't be able to pull 3rd kazekage out, well Sasori can f*cking fly up and then summon the dam puppet. Hidan can't chase him up there

 

[tazze019]

Easy win for Hidan

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Your are the biggest fanboy I have ever seen. Hidan has no chance agains't Sasori. You say Sasori won't be able to pull 3rd kazekage out, well Sasori can f*cking fly up and then summon the dam puppet. Hidan can't chase him up there

No because hidan can also fly don't ya know

 

[Obito3631]

Are Kidomaru's sticky gold and sticky gold armour the same material?


thanks

they were not the same material but both came from him

lol, It seems manga facts aren't sufficient to convince you.

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Where were those manga facts you were talking about again?
That's right, you were contradicting yourself while using the manga as a reference, good job.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

lol, It seems manga facts aren't sufficient

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Jesus f*cking Christ are you a stalkerw

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Where were those manga facts you were talking about again?
That's right, you were contradicting yourself using the manga as a reference, good job.

Jesus f*cking Christ are you stalking me?!
Some people can go to scary lengths just to let everyone know they're right huh.

 

[SeriousDogg]

I like Kidomaru he is way more versatile than Hidan, but there is reason why Hidan in the Akatsuki and Kidomaru is just one of Orochimaru's guards, and he got his ass kicked with his group from Kimimaro.

 

[Obito3631]

Jesus f*cking Christ are you stalking me?!
Some people can go to scary lengths just to let everyone know they're right huh.

No I have better things to do than stalking you, I stumbled upon this post while browsing the forum, still it seems you're trying to contradict manga facts.

 

[TurrinB]

Nah I'd consider Hidan better than Kidomaru.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Hidan's scythe cannot pierce gold armor as it took 64 jyuken strikes to finally break it.

 

[Rykz]

He is 14, ergo he is not Akatsuki level.

 

[Deadai]

Kidomaru was said to be incredibly good strategist who in battle would analyze how the enemy fought looking for what ever weak point he could exploiting it.

It does not help that Hidan was never to bright to begin with and a close range fighter.

Kidomaru has several ways of dealing with Hidan

1.many spider summons whom could poison / devour Hidan tehre is no way for Hidna to deal with so many.
2.headshot with his spider bow (seen to be incredibly accurate from archery even able to find Neji's blind spot hitting it dead on.)
3.trap Hidan in his webs, Hidan has no method of escaping Kidomaru's webs where said to be as strong as steal.

 

[Zexion~]

Kidomaru was said to be incredibly good strategist who in battle would analyze how the enemy fought looking for what ever weak point he could exploiting it.

It does not help that Hidan was never to bright to begin with and a close range fighter.

Kidomaru has several ways of dealing with Hidan

1.many spider summons whom could poison / devour Hidan tehre is no way for Hidna to deal with so many.
2.headshot with his spider bow (seen to be incredibly accurate from archery even able to find Neji's blind spot hitting it dead on.)
3.trap Hidan in his webs, Hidan has no method of escaping Kidomaru's webs where said to be as strong as steal.

Those summons were Pitiful Unless they compare too the 2 tails hidan is taking them down with just his scythe

Unless Their In that same forest Hidan Could See the arrows Coming And Easily Avoid Them

And Hidan Could Dodge Shadow Possesion he is not getting caught by some webs

 

[Deadai]

Those summons were Pitiful Unless they compare too the 2 tails hidan is taking them down with just his scythe

Unless Their In that same forest Hidan Could See the arrows Coming And Easily Avoid Them

And Hidan Could Dodge Shadow Possesion he is not getting caught by some webs

Hidan was with Kakuzu during the 2tails capture which was off screen we have no idea how the match wen't. For all we know Kakuzu could have been doing most of the work until Yugito ran out of chakra where Hidan caught her.

Sure if it was one spider Hidan could take care of it no problem but...it isn't one spider. Hidan is not precise enough to deal with hundrends of spider's

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You do have a good point there the OP should state where the battle takes place until then I will wait to answer this.

The problem there is Kidomaru can shoot a number of the webs which have an area of effect unlike Shikamaru's possession jutsu which has limits as to how far it can be used and such.

 

[Obito3631]

Hidan was with Kakuzu during the 2tails capture which was off screen we have no idea how the match wen't. For all we know Kakuzu could have been doing most of the work until Yugito ran out of chakra where Hidan caught her.

Sure if it was one spider Hidan could take care of it no problem but...it isn't one spider. Hidan is not precise enough to deal with hundrends of spider's

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You do have a good point there the OP should state where the battle takes place until then I will wait to answer this.

The problem there is Kidomaru can shoot a number of the webs which have an area of effect unlike Shikamaru's possession jutsu which has limits as to how far it can be used and such.

You cant contradict manga fact, Hidan did kill Nibi by himself, the fact that he did the ceremony proves it

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also he was by himself when he confronted Nibi

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[Deadai]

You cant contradict manga fact, Hidan did kill Nibi by himself, the fact that he did the ceremony proves it

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also he was by himself when he confronted Nibi

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Kakuzu was there when the battle started I noted that Hidan did capture the 2tails what I was saying is because we don't know how the battle went Kakuzu could have been doing most of the fighting up until Hidan got the chance to use his curse jutsu.