Surely Kidōmaru > Hidan?

[Penguin]

This is the Databook for Hidan

Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
Third 5 4.5 3 3 4 3.5 5 3.5 31.5

And this is the Databook for Kidomaru


Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
Second 4 2.5 1.5 4 2 3 4 4 25

Hidan basically beats Kidomaru in every section. Also, Hidan can tank most attacks so Kidomaru will be shocked by the fact of his immortality and that Hidan is just running through his attacks

Too bad Kishimoto does not make Databook using CS2 for Kidomaru. Naruto databook stats, please tell me if they above 30. How does he beat Kage level opponents then?

 

[Obito3631]

I sent the quoted reference to you LAST TIME. Also nothing i've said is incorrect, stop trying to pick out tiny flaws, you have nothing and can't argue this :')

Are you KIDDING. Thrown kunai didn't cut THE WEBS. It obviously is a bloody strong material and the armour will obviously be the same just tougher? Hidan. Cannot. Touch. Kidomaru.

Nope you didnt send any reference as you can clearly see in the post I quoted previously.

Show me a manga scan where it states the sticky gold armor can protect the user against ALL physical attacks, Im waiting.

Also the web isn't made from the same material as the golden armor.


Now youre comparing a kunai to a gigantic scythe, you're just losing all your credibility.

Of course I cant argue against fact but the problem is youre not posting any facts, you're just spouting bullshit, I can't consider that as a fact ; )

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

This is the Databook for Hidan

Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
Third 5 4.5 3 3 4 3.5 5 3.5 31.5

And this is the Databook for Kidomaru


Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
Second 4 2.5 1.5 4 2 3 4 4 25

Hidan basically beats Kidomaru in every section. Also, Hidan can tank most attacks so Kidomaru will be shocked by the fact of his immortality and that Hidan is just running through his attacks

Everyone in this thread knows he's agile and got good stats. But seriously? You're using stats!? That's not how real battles work, numbers don't decide a victory- Hidan is badly matched up, that is all there is to it. Their fighting styles conflict.

Also do you know what Kidomaru is like? He's sneaky. He isn't the type to just jump in, close combat. He's a spider, he's sly and strikes from the shadows. There'll be like a second of: "oh arrow didnt work, guess i'll just use my other 5 jutsu which all deal damage to him I guess."

 

[The Immortal God]

However, Hidan can tank it. And for Asuma thread didn't cut off Hidans head. It was a chakra blade which hit in the weak point of the neck

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

However, Hidan can tank it. And for Asuma thread didn't cut off Hidans head. It was a chakra blade which hit in the weak point of the neck

point being

any thoughts of hidan beating kidomaru cant be backed up

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

However, Hidan can tank it. And for Asuma thread didn't cut off Hidans head. It was a chakra blade which hit in the weak point of the neck

Still taking his head off? His head came off. That's what happened.

Look, I like Hidan. I just honestly know that he can't touch Kidomaru. He's specifically designed against an enemy like him.
Whether or not a billion arrows or not will kill him Kidomaru WILL get him eventually! I mean, he's got a huge scale spider summoning that fast Neji was barely able to fight off with his 64 palm rotation, spout many webs which will catch someone if they're just darting around doing flips and sh*t. Curse Mark which improves his abilities and he can turn his body into makeshift weapons which WILL cut off Hidan's head. He has all these abilities at his disposal to speed up the process, for Hidan it's just a matter of time.

 

[Obito3631]

Funnily, numbers stopped responding, he likes to talk big but when you're asking him to back up his claims he pusses out.
Sadly you can't argue against facts.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Funnily, numbers stopped responding, he likes to talk big but when you're asking him to back up his claims he pusses out.
Sadly you can't argue against facts.

Sorry i'm just gonna stop and say, YOU ARE A MASSIVE C*NT. Seriously, all I do is make a very valid point that SHOULD be debated and you just go on the defensive because i've possibly found a loophole of a character you like. Calm. DOWN. The fact that the majority of people in this thread agree with me and can see the clear distinction between the two just shows how much this DOES need to be debated, strangely enough. They did it without being massive cocks about it!

It's a f*cking thread! If i'm wrong, i'm wrong! I honestly don't believe I am but there's no reason to be such a douche about it!

Also yes, Kishimoto never wrote in big bold letters that THIS ARMOUR IS EXACTLY THIS STRONG AND THIS, THIS AND THIS CANT BEAT IT. A flying kunai has a lot of impact behind it. A scythe is bigger, yes but why would his own personal armour be weaker than his little spider threads? That makes no sense. Also both techniques are called 'Sticky Gold.'

Spider Sticky Gold & Armour of Sticky Gold. YOU HONESTLY DON'T THINK THESE ARE RELATED!?
Please. Please. do your research, they are the same.

Once exposed to air the armour is almost impossible to break. Behind Sand and Susanoo, it is one of the strongest defences in the entire manga. It's capable of blocking EVEN CHAKRA and Gentle Fist as well as obvious physical attacks.

You have been proven wrong. Please take that awful f*cking attitude elsewhere.

 

[Bright Master]

His eyes are vunerable.

 

[Obito3631]

Sorry i'm just gonna stop and say, YOU ARE A MASSIVE C*NT. Seriously, all I do is make a very valid point that SHOULD be debated and you just go on the defensive because i've possibly found a loophole of a character you like. Calm. DOWN. The fact that the majority of people in this thread agree with me and can see the clear distinction between the two just shows how much this DOES need to be debated, strangely enough. They did it without being massive cocks about it!

It's a f*cking thread! If i'm wrong, i'm wrong! I honestly don't believe I am but there's no reason to be such a douche about it!

Also yes, Kishimoto never wrote in big bold letters that THIS ARMOUR IS EXACTLY THIS STRONG AND THIS, THIS AND THIS CANT BEAT IT. A flying kunai has a lot of impact behind it. A scythe is bigger, yes but why would his own personal armour be weaker than his little spider threads? That makes no sense. Also both techniques are called 'Sticky Gold.'

Spider Sticky Gold & Armour of Sticky Gold. YOU HONESTLY DON'T THINK THESE ARE RELATED!?
Please. Please. do your research, they are the same.

Once exposed to air the armour is almost impossible to break. Behind Sand and Susanoo, it is one of the strongest defences in the entire manga. It's capable of blocking EVEN CHAKRA and Gentle Fist as well as obvious physical attacks.

You have been proven wrong. Please take that awful f*cking attitude elsewhere.

You seem quite upset kid

First of all, no his webs aren't made of the same material as his Sticky gold armour. You should do your research.
You're just making baseless assumptions, in the manga, Kidomaru states that his Sticky gold armour blocks his chakra pores rendering the gentle fist useless, however, does it ever state that it is immune against all physical attacks? I don't think so.

Considering Hidan is far stronger than Neji and that a Kunai doesn't have the same sheer force as a gigantic Scythe, it is obvious that it won't have the same effect as when Neji tried to cut his webs.

Not to mention the fact that Hidan is way more agile and fast than Neji.

And now you're just making more baseless assumptions, can you prove that his Sticky gold is the 3rd best defense? Did you forget that Kakuzu's Domu is said to be as hard as diamond and that it actually says that all physical attacks are useless against it, unlike the Sticky gold armour?

Your ignorance is quite comical, I think the funniest part is you think you proved me wrong. You should have done your research before posting this thread, to me you just seem mad that you've been proven wrong.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

You seem quite upset kid

First of all, no his webs aren't made of the same material as his Sticky gold armour. You should do your research.
You're just making baseless assumptions, in the manga, Kidomaru states that his Sticky gold armour blocks his chakra pores rendering the gentle fist useless, however, does it ever state that it is immune against all physical attacks? I don't think so.

Considering Hidan is far stronger than Neji and that a Kunai doesn't have the same sheer force as a gigantic Scythe, it is obvious that it won't have the same effect as when Neji tried to cut his webs.

Not to mention the fact that Hidan is way more agile and fast than Neji.

And now you're just making more baseless assumptions, can you prove that his Sticky gold is the 3rd best defense? Did you forget that Kakuzu's Domu is said to be as hard as diamond and that it actually says that all physical attacks are useless against it, unlike the Sticky gold armour?

Your ignorance is quite comical, I think the funniest part is you think you proved me wrong. You should have done your research before posting this thread, to me you just seem mad that you've been proven wrong.

They have the same name, they are both sticky gold. Of course they're linked. The thread is basically unbreakable and thus so is the armour, which might be even tougher because it's thicker. There is literally no arguing this. But hey, you're going to anyway- and you're going to be just as much a **** about it as you can. Hidan has no jutsu or lightning fast abilities like Neji to stop the Spider summoning, something else you conveniently overlooked. Hidan is fast and can do flips and sh*t but that only conflicts with like 5 of my other points. He'll get stuck in webs. He can't run forever. etc. etc.

And to be honest i'd like YOU to show me some proof that it CAN be broken by physical attacks. Because it's VERY unlikely. Why have armour in a world where f*cking fireballs and flying tornadoes exist but yet this special, last resort armour can be broken by a f*cking thin metal blade? It's common sense as well, not baseless assumption @sshole.

Oh wait. It's not just an assumption. It's manga fact. Want more proof that they're the same?

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Whoops.
That panel confirms it is not only the same material but also is actually a form of metal. And thus, obviously won't be pierced by a scythe? It like might, leave a scratch. What was it you said? 7

"Sadly you can't argue against facts." ? You're entirely right. You can't argue against facts huh?

Can you just give it a rest, seriously, you've made enough of a prick of yourself as it is.

 

[Obito3631]

They have the same name, they are both sticky gold. Of course they're linked. The thread is basically unbreakable and thus so is the armour, which might be even tougher because it's thicker. There is literally no arguing this. But hey, you're going to anyway- and you're going to be just as much a **** about it as you can. Hidan has no jutsu or lightning fast abilities like Neji to stop the Spider summoning, something else you conveniently overlooked. Hidan is fast and can do flips and sh*t but that only conflicts with like 5 of my other points. He'll get stuck in webs. He can't run forever. etc. etc.

And to be honest i'd like YOU to show me some proof that it CAN be broken by physical attacks. Because it's VERY unlikely. Why have armour in a world where f*cking fireballs and flying tornadoes exist but yet this special, last resort armour can be broken by a f*cking thin metal blade? It's common sense as well, not baseless assumption @sshole.

They have the same name?

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Keep making me laugh though. The sticky gold and the webs arent related whatsoever, you're clearly just puling things out of your ass.

His spider summon has blood as well, he won't have any trouble drawing its blood and one shoting it

Hidan wouldn't get caught by the webs due to the fact that he's one of the most agile ninja in the series.
Besides, I have already explained why Hidan could cut through his webs so either way it won't be a problem for him.

Also care to explain why didn't Kidomaru activate his Sticky gold armour a second time when Neji went to finish him? It could have spared his life, the reason why is that he can only use it once.

You can't even prove that his Sticky gold armour can block all physical attacks as you claimed. The manga clearly states that it renders the gentle fist useless as it blocks his pores, it is safe to assume that a scythe that's twice as big as him would tear him apart.

Lool you're a retard clearly.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Keep making me laugh though. The sticky gold and the webs arent related whatsoever, you're clearly just puling things out of your ass.

Manga states they are the same material. They have the same name. They have the same name because they are variants of the same jutsu. Stop avoiding facts.

His spider summon has blood as well, he won't have any trouble drawing its blood and one shoting it

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Hidan is going to cut the blood of every single spider yeah? Every single one? Before they cover him in thread?

o k.

Hidan wouldn't get caught by the webs due to the fact that he's one of the most agile ninja in the series.
Besides, I have already explained why Hidan could cut through his webs so either way it won't be a problem for him.

Also care to explain why didn't Kidomaru activate his Sticky gold armour a second time when Neji went to finish him? It could have spared his life, the reason why is that he can only use it once.

Not even nearly true. He didn't because it uses chakra, it had been a long fight where Kidomaru had to use all his jutsu. In our Hidan scenario it is not, he uses it from the get-go. Your 'facts' are wrong.

You can't even prove that his Sticky gold armour can block all physical attacks as you claimed. The manga clearly states that it renders the gentle fist useless as it blocks his pores, it is safe to assume that a scythe that's twice as big as him would tear him apart.

Did you even read my f*cking post. It's METAL. M-E-T-A-L. SOME attacks will pierce metal. Rasengan? TBB? NOT ANOTHER METAL SCYTHE. You ever tried hitting something metal with metal? Nothing happens. A scratch might appear, that's it. Don't forget that Kidomaru is also really agile and won't just be standing there taking all the hits.

Lool you're a retard clearly.

Yeah, IM the retard. Clearly.

 

[Obito3631]

Manga states they are the same material. They have the same name. They have the same name because they are variants of the same jutsu. Stop avoiding facts.

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Hidan is going to cut the blood of every single spider yeah? Every single one? Before they cover him in thread?

o k.

Hidan wouldn't get caught by the webs due to the fact that he's one of the most agile ninja in the series.
Besides, I have already explained why Hidan could cut through his webs so either way it won't be a problem for him.


Not even nearly true. He didn't because it uses chakra, it had been a long fight where Kidomaru had to use all his jutsu. In our Hidan scenario it is not, he uses it from the get-go. Your 'facts' are wrong.


Did you even read my f*cking post. It's METAL. M-E-T-A-L. SOME attacks will pierce metal. Rasengan? TBB? NOT ANOTHER METAL SCYTHE. You ever tried hitting something metal with metal? Nothing happens. A scratch might appear, that's it. Don't forget that Kidomaru is also really agile and won't just be standing there taking all the hits.


Yeah, IM the retard. Clearly.

Seriously, are you that stupid?

THIS

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clearly isn't the same thing as THIS

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it's not the same color and it was nowhere stated that it's made from the same material

The color is differentand they dont share the same characteristics, im clearly not the one avoiding facts, it seems like common sense isnt something youre used to.


Its pointless to bring up the spider arguments since Hidan wont give him the chance to pull it off, hes slower than him so he isnt running away from Hidan.



Lmao then why did his superb armour crumble after Neji hit him with physical attacks? You think his armour is the best thing in his arsenal when in fact it's just shit.

Kidomaru is slow and he has no feats that would put him on par with hidan in agility and swiftness, lmao try again, Kidomaru has no hope of ever beating Hidan, he cant even kill him. hell he cant even escape from him, he wont even have time to pull off any of his tricks.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Seriously, are you that stupid?

THIS

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clearly isn't the same thing as THIS

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it's not the same color and it was nowhere stated that it's made from the same material

The color is differentand they dont share the same characteristics, im clearly not the one avoiding facts, it seems like common sense isnt something youre used to.


Its pointless to bring up the spider arguments since Hidan wont give him the chance to pull it off, hes slower than him so he isnt running away from Hidan.



Lmao then why did his superb armour crumble after Neji hit him with physical attacks? You think his armour is the best thing in his arsenal when in fact it's just shit.

Kidomaru is slow and he has no feats that would put him on par with hidan in agility and swiftness, lmao try again, Kidomaru has no hope of ever beating Hidan, he cant even kill him. hell he cant even escape from him, he wont even have time to pull off any of his tricks.

Okay well you're just arguing with the manga now. The page I clearly linked stated they were the same material. It doesn't matter how many times I have to repeat myself, you're not getting anymore right. You're judging this off of its COLOUR. The manga is fact and yore arguing with Kishi now?

Also I'd love to know where this idea of Kidomaru being slow came from but I really don't have anymore time for it.

 

[Obito3631]

Okay well you're just arguing with the manga now. The page I clearly linked stated they were the same material. It doesn't matter how many times I have to repeat myself, you're not getting anymore right. You're judging this off of its COLOUR. The manga is fact and yore arguing with Kishi now?

Also I'd love to know where this idea of Kidomaru being slow came from but I really don't have anymore time for it.

That's it, that post just proved how truly stupid and wrong you are.

The manga page you posted shows that he was talking about THIS

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he wasn't referring to the f*cking web. LMAO.

Can't you see? It's clearly the same thing.

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You failed so hard right here. The manga is fact, and the manga shows that he was talking about the Sticky gold he uses as weapon and not the web, sorry you can't contradict manga facts.

Besides unlike you, I'm using cannon reference to prove my points, Kidomaru only has 3 in speed in the databook, Hidan is faster and more agile than him


You've just been proven wrong and also you couldn't counter my previous arguments.

Hidan > Kidomaru.

 

[l Forgotten l]

Seriously, are you that stupid?

THIS

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clearly isn't the same thing as THIS

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it's not the same color and it was nowhere stated that it's made from the same material

The color is differentand they dont share the same characteristics, im clearly not the one avoiding facts, it seems like common sense isnt something youre used to.


Its pointless to bring up the spider arguments since Hidan wont give him the chance to pull it off, hes slower than him so he isnt running away from Hidan.



Lmao then why did his superb armour crumble after Neji hit him with physical attacks? You think his armour is the best thing in his arsenal when in fact it's just shit.

Kidomaru is slow and he has no feats that would put him on par with hidan in agility and swiftness, lmao try again, Kidomaru has no hope of ever beating Hidan, he cant even kill him. hell he cant even escape from him, he wont even have time to pull off any of his tricks.

Just stop, stop fanboy raping numbers.

 

[l Forgotten l]

He's clearly a delusional hater.

yeah , he is the one thats a delusional hater....

 

[Obito3631]

yeah , he is the one thats a delusional hater....

Read the thread and watch your little friend getting his ass handed to him, he's obviously in denial.
Also you're not in a fine position to side with anyone as you didn't even read the thread neither are you involved in it.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Oh I'm a delusional hater now?! Wow, I definitely remember saying I liked Hidan?

I didn't realise I was such a "retarded, delusional, ignorant hater" clearly you and all of your infinite manga knowledge have outsmarted a passing theory on an Internet forum. Congratu-f*cking-lations.

I'm not sure if that still rules out the armour being metal or anything but I'm seriously past it. I'm sorry this thread insulted you so much. I don't even like either character that much. Jesus Christ even real life doesn't deserve as
Much bitchy sarcasm and general anger as you gave me here.