[Discussion] Superman theory

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

Okay everyone i was having a discussion with one of my friends earlier and he said something I just couldn't respond to...

What if superman became a vampire? Would a kryptonite cross work? Like would they cancel each other out lol?

Then i asked him how would Superman even become a vampire? His skin would be too hard to bite through and everything..his response was "Kryptonite dentures..."

So My question is what would happen if superman became a vampire? is it possible? What could stop him then?

 

[Gitch]

Wouldnt be good ... He takes his power from the sun an as a vampire he cant stay in the sun ....

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

Wouldnt be good ... He takes his power from the sun an as a vampire he cant stay in the sun ....

Yeah but he is superman would he Be like blade? He can be in the sun as a daywalker?

 

[Kai NB]

Wouldnt be good ... He takes his power from the sun an as a vampire he cant stay in the sun ....

So he'd start off pretty OP, but then substantially weaken with time,

After awhile, he'll only be as strong as a regular vampire (which is still pretty OP) but a lot of the superheros would be able to take him down then

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

So he'd start off pretty OP, but then substantially weaken with time,

After awhile, he'll only be as strong as a regular vampire (which is still pretty OP) but a lot of the superheros would be able to take him down then

That makes no sense at all

 

[Punk Hazard]

That makes no sense at all

Yes, it does. What doesn't make sense is why a Kryptonite cross wouldn't work.

 

[Kai NB]

That makes no sense at all

Sure it does

Consider it this way - On a Scale of 1 - 10 for Power

Superman is a 10
Other heroes range from 6-9 (lol)
Vampires are somewhere around 5-7

Regular People (Euphemism for Fodders) 1-2


Superman's power only comes from the sun, you take that away, you slowly make Superman more and more human, and since he's a vampire, he won't be in the sun anymore.

So after a really long time, superman would basically lose his solar powered kryptonian abilities and basically be human. However, since he was bitten and transformed into a Vampire, it would be as if a regular human got turned into a vampire. So he'd be at that range.

And of course, there are definitely some heroes that can kill a vampire (at least definitely more heroes that can kill vampires than heroes that can kill Superman)

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

Sure it does

Consider it this way - On a Scale of 1 - 10 for Power

Superman is a 10
Other heroes range from 6-9 (lol)
Vampires are somewhere around 5-7

Regular People (Euphemism for Fodders) 1-2


Superman's power only comes from the sun, you take that away, you slowly make Superman more and more human, and since he's a vampire, he won't be in the sun anymore.

So after a really long time, superman would basically lose his solar powered kryptonian abilities and basically be human. However, since he was bitten and transformed into a Vampire, it would be as if a regular human got turned into a vampire. So he'd be at that range.

And of course, there are definitely some heroes that can kill a vampire (at least definitely more heroes that can kill vampires than heroes that can kill Superman)

I understand your theory but at the same time why wouldn't superman just gain their abilities he doesn't have and NOT gain their weaknesses? I mean he is superman after all?

So he could have the following as a bonus

Not aging
Night vision
Disease immunity
Mind control( Possibly.)
Life force absorption

it could go on but Im not sure about it all, really though whos to say he would only the weaknesses?

 

[Kai NB]

I understand your theory but at the same time why wouldn't superman just gain their abilities he doesn't have and NOT gain their weaknesses? I mean he is superman after all?

So he could have the following as a bonus

Not aging
Night vision
Disease immunity
Mind control( Possibly.)
Life force absorption

it could go on but Im not sure about it all, really though whos to say he would only the weaknesses?

You're still missing it a little

At the beginning, he will only gain advantages. However, the thing is, he will eventually lose his Kryptonian superpowers, not because the vampire mode will takeover, but because him not being in the sun will actually TAKE away his Kryptonian powers.

The only way it wouldn't be the case is if his cells could constantly take in solar energy faster than the time it takes his vampirified body to burn. It'll basically be him constantly being burned in the sun but his kryptonian solar absorption would counteract it

 

[Punk Hazard]

I understand your theory but at the same time why wouldn't superman just gain their abilities he doesn't have and NOT gain their weaknesses? I mean he is superman after all?

So he could have the following as a bonus

Not aging
Night vision
Disease immunity
Mind control( Possibly.)
Life force absorption

it could go on but Im not sure about it all, really though whos to say he would only the weaknesses?

I doubt it. Even Amazo, the very epitome of assimilation in the DC universe, gets weaknesses. Superman would get them too.

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

You're still missing it a little

At the beginning, he will only gain advantages. However, the thing is, he will eventually lose his Kryptonian superpowers, not because the vampire mode will takeover, but because him not being in the sun will actually TAKE away his Kryptonian powers.

The only way it wouldn't be the case is if his cells could constantly take in solar energy faster than the time it takes his vampirified body to burn. It'll basically be him constantly being burned in the sun but his kryptonian solar absorption would counteract it

Maybe I am missing it but what Im saying is what are you basing the idea that he will somehow get the weakness of the sun from the vampire DNA in the first place?

Since He basically relies on the sun couldn't his body neutralize that and eliminate it?

Thats what Im trying to say so he won't need to worry about it maybe

 

[Gitch]

Sure it does

Consider it this way - On a Scale of 1 - 10 for Power

Superman is a 10
Other heroes range from 6-9 (lol)
Vampires are somewhere around 5-7

Regular People (Euphemism for Fodders) 1-2


Superman's power only comes from the sun, you take that away, you slowly make Superman more and more human, and since he's a vampire, he won't be in the sun anymore.

So after a really long time, superman would basically lose his solar powered kryptonian abilities and basically be human. However, since he was bitten and transformed into a Vampire, it would be as if a regular human got turned into a vampire. So he'd be at that range.

And of course, there are definitely some heroes that can kill a vampire (at least definitely more heroes that can kill vampires than heroes that can kill Superman)

I agree with your theory

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

I doubt it. Even Amazo, the very epitome of assimilation in the DC universe, gets weaknesses. Superman would get them too.

Which weaknesses first of all and second, I have NO clue who Amazo is actually can you please explain?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Which weaknesses first of all and second, I have NO clue who Amazo is actually can you please explain?

Weakness to garlic, sunlight, dependency on blood, crosses, etc.

 

[Kai NB]

Maybe I am missing it but what Im saying is what are you basing the idea that he will somehow get the weakness of the sun from the vampire DNA in the first place?

Since He basically relies on the sun couldn't his body neutralize that and eliminate it?

Thats what Im trying to say so he won't need to worry about it maybe

I see what you're saying, but here's the thing

He wouldn't necessarily be neutralizing it. On a technicality standpoint, you can say that, but here's what would happen

He would have the weakness of the sun and he would have the strength of the sun

The sun would constantly burn him while at the same time giving him strength. They don't cancel out, they just happen at the same time. Canceling them out would mean that the two effects would make it stop altogether. As both processes of burning and healing happen at the same time, it's not really that good.

In fact, if anything, he wouldn't be able to increase his strength. He'd be (if the weakness was exactly opposite to the strength) in a constant power level, so he'd only be able to go down.

If he got injured in a fight, he couldn't heal because he'd be burning at the same time. And his power can't increase the closer he gets to the sun because he burn even more so the closer he gets at the same time

Now this is assuming the two are even equal. When I think about it, does Superman have an accelerated healing rate (like the Flash) where his injuries restore extremely quick, like a broken bone is fixed in a day or something? Cause if he doesn't have an accelerated healing rate, then he's going to burn his skin off the same as a human and he wouldn't be able to heal in time before he disintegrates

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

I see what you're saying, but here's the thing

He wouldn't necessarily be neutralizing it. On a technicality standpoint, you can say that, but here's what would happen

He would have the weakness of the sun and he would have the strength of the sun

The sun would constantly burn him while at the same time giving him strength. They don't cancel out, they just happen at the same time. Canceling them out would mean that the two effects would make it stop altogether. As both processes of burning and healing happen at the same time, it's not really that good.

In fact, if anything, he wouldn't be able to increase his strength. He'd be (if the weakness was exactly opposite to the strength) in a constant power level, so he'd only be able to go down.

If he got injured in a fight, he couldn't heal because he'd be burning at the same time. And his power can't increase the closer he gets to the sun because he burn even more so the closer he gets at the same time

Now this is assuming the two are even equal. When I think about it, does Superman have an accelerated healing rate (like the Flash) where his injuries restore extremely quick, like a broken bone is fixed in a day or something? Cause if he doesn't have an accelerated healing rate, then he's going to burn his skin off the same as a human and he wouldn't be able to heal in time before he disintegrates

Okay so in some movies,animes and i believe a few comics im not sure exactly of names but certain people get transformations or changes. Lets look at underworld since I just watched it and im thinking about it haha.

Michael who was a werewolf Got bitten by a vampire whos weakness is the sun, He is NOT damaged by the sun as he became a hybrid

Back to superman. Whos to say that wouldn't happen? They wouldn't cancel each other out but it would be just a full power up nothing negative?

I don't think he has accelerated healing though but im not quite sure on that.If superman did have the negative i fully agree that would cause him to remain at a constant level but im more asking now if he didn't is that possible and if so why not?

 

[Kai NB]

Well if that's the case (As in the scenario being like Underworld), then that is what we call and asspull

 

[Hinata Loves Naruto]

How so? like if they went into a molecular level couldn't it just make the cells stronger not weaker too?

 

[Kai NB]

How so? like if they went into a molecular level couldn't it just make the cells stronger not weaker too?

It may very well be that way, but I would consider that an asspull as it basically makes Superman (who's already nearly god-like) even stronger than he already is. There needs to be some negatives to it or it just isn't fair (I know right, it's a comic, really trying to bring in fair lol)

If it works the way it does in Underworld, then that's how it would work, he gains all the benefits but no weaknesses. I would just consider that stupid though, but that's my opinion