Sun and Moon Seals Plot Devices??

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As we know Hagaromo studied a way to seal his mother/10 tails. But what in the world(literally) could he find on earth to give him info on how to seal a celestial being from another dimension?

That literally makes no sense. How would humans have knowledge on fuinjutsu if they didn’t even have chakra yet?

Where would this info for Hagaromo come from?

Even if he “created” it how would he? What would’ve gave him the knowledge to know how to deal something he never dealt with before?

It makes no sense.
 

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As we know Hagaromo studied a way to seal his mother/10 tails. But what in the world(literally) could he find on earth to give him info on how to seal a celestial being from another dimension?

That literally makes no sense. How would humans have knowledge on fuinjutsu if they didn’t even have chakra yet?

Where would this info for Hagaromo come from?

Even if he “created” it how would he? What would’ve gave him the knowledge to know how to deal something he never dealt with before?

It makes no sense.

It's anime logic bro. It doesn't have to make sense.
 

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Its a fictional story so something that doesn't make sense is bound to happen. But I think its Hamura who invented those seals.
 

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As we know Hagaromo studied a way to seal his mother/10 tails. But what in the world(literally) could he find on earth to give him info on how to seal a celestial being from another dimension?

That literally makes no sense. How would humans have knowledge on fuinjutsu if they didn’t even have chakra yet?

Where would this info for Hagaromo come from?

Even if he “created” it how would he? What would’ve gave him the knowledge to know how to deal something he never dealt with before?

It makes no sense.

The only thing that makes sense is that Hagoromo didn’t actually use a sealing technique, I believe he used a standard Chibaku tensei with a Rinnegan genjutsu to paralyze Kaguya And trap her. Similar to what Sasuke’s rinnegan did to the tailed beasts when he put them in a gen juts and trapped them in their own individual chibaku tensei’s.
 

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He came to Earth in search of Natural Energy , precisely , to learn the famed Hermit Arts from Gamamaru or Ryuchīdo Snake which was the only way to fight Kaguya and thus he transformed into the Sage Of The Six Paths , and the Six Paths are probably Kaguya's dimensions which are interlinked together for the most part , Hagoromo linked the Earth he created with the Nunoboku No Ken with the Six Dimensions and earned authority over it. Shukaku's skin contains a passive sealing curse mark technique which Naruto exploited in the war arc. Coincidently , he was the one who created Shukaku from "a Natural Energy's Chakra" with his Yin-Yang Power , which probably means the "Curse Seal" of Shukaku came from Juubī Natural Energy , which Hagoromo utilized properly in sealing the beast , plus earned Hamura's Help in the Sealing Techniques which are also coincidently originating from "Curse Seals" which are what the forehead mark in the Branch Member's Forehead is composed of.
 
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He most likely just developed the seals by experimenting around with chakara.
 

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He came to Earth in search of Natural Energy , precisely , to learn the famed Hermit Arts from Gamamaru or Ryuchīdo Snake which was the only way to fight Kaguya and thus he transformed into the Sage Of The Six Paths , and the Six Paths are probably Kaguya's dimensions which are interlinked together for the most part , Hagoromo linked the Earth he created with the Nunoboku No Ken with the Six Dimensions and earned authority over it. Shukaku's skin contains a passive sealing curse mark technique which Naruto exploited in the war arc. Coincidently , he was the one who created Shukaku from "a Natural Energy's Chakra" with his Yin-Yang Power , which probably means the "Curse Seal" of Shukaku came from Juubī Natural Energy , which Hagoromo utilized properly in sealing the beast , plus earned Hamura's Help in the Sealing Techniques which are also coincidently originating from "Curse Seals" which are what the forehead mark in the Branch Member's Forehead is composed of.

But that’s after he became the JUUBI’s host.
 

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He came to Earth in search of Natural Energy , precisely , to learn the famed Hermit Arts from Gamamaru or Ryuchīdo Snake which was the only way to fight Kaguya and thus he transformed into the Sage Of The Six Paths , and the Six Paths are probably Kaguya's dimensions which are interlinked together for the most part , Hagoromo linked the Earth he created with the Nunoboku No Ken with the Six Dimensions and earned authority over it.

Wasn't he always on Earth though? And he didn't create the Earth, it predates him because Kaguya was already on Earth before his birth. That was just a legend
 

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The only thing that makes sense is that Hagoromo didn’t actually use a sealing technique, I believe he used a standard Chibaku tensei with a Rinnegan genjutsu to paralyze Kaguya And trap her. Similar to what Sasuke’s rinnegan did to the tailed beasts when he put them in a gen juts and trapped them in their own individual chibaku tensei’s.

The hell you're talking about? Dont came here and twisting a fact like some people before you. But if you're an alt I can see why you attempting on something.
 
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Probably duo to Rinnegan , and knowledge of it and everything created by Rinnegan (techniques) are surely powerful enough to do unimaginable
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Probably duo to Rinnegan , and knowledge of it and everything created by Rinnegan (techniques) are surely powerful enough to do unimaginable
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Lmfao which is what I said but according to Ansatsuken, I’m an idiot.
 

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I didn’t twist a fact, you illiterate dunce. I explicitly stated, “I believe,” did I not? You were the same guy that acted like a dunce and didn’t contribute on the other post and decided to drop your bs but I let it slide. Like I said, no facts were changed and I even gave you scenario comparison but act like a douche if you want. You still can’t disprove it.

Yeah you can believe all you want but what is the point of believing on something else infront of clear fact shown by manga. It doesnt make sense. So here you just acting like flat earth believer.

Straight to the point. In the chapter of 690 manga clearly draw a parallel here.

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It clearly shows to you that in the past both Hamura and Hagoromo did exactly the same action as Naruto and Sasuke in the present time.

Both(Hagoromo and Hamura) placed a seal on Kaguya's shoulder in the way of Naruto-Sasuke,

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As for Hagoromo using Rinnegan Genjutsu on Kaguya, at that time Rinnegan Genjutsu was not exist. Hagoromo's eyes just a normal KKM Rinnegan without any tomoes on it. His eyes is not similar to Sasuke's single 6 tomoes Rinnegan eye. The tomoes indicate that this kind of Rinnegan has some kind of Genjutsu power and Hagoromo's eyes lack something like it.

So you made a mistake into believing that Hagoromo is using Genjutsu on Kaguya. Logically speaking there is no way Genjutsu can work on Kaguya easily because if it can effect her Sasuke would already try to caught her inside one.

Actually what happen here....
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...is that the seals that Sasuke and Naruto placed on Kaguya's body is working on sealing Kaguya's Rinn-Sharingan. So Kaguya can no longer using her third eye power. If Kaguya is being caught inside Genjutsu her primary eyes ( Byakugan) should be affected and shown by manga but here as you can see only her third eye is being effected and shown. So that's not Genjutsu per se.

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How Rinnegan Genjutsu works? The eye shape of the victims turning into the Genjutsu caster eye shape. But it never happened on Kaguya.

And the rest of sealing process..
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Clearly all the "process" is automated. The order/sequence of sealing process already being programmed inside those seals like how Itachi programmed the Kotoamatsukami. And most importantly that's all are fact. So its meaningless to believe on the opposite infront of clear established fact.

Lastly on your last thread its not you who let it slide but its me who let it slide because I want to observe you first. And now you gave me a "green light"
 
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Facts. I await his response nonetheless, though. I can’t wait for it lol

Lmfao he’s been watching this thread for the longest of time and STILL hasn’t replied. I guess I’ll move on to entice his cowardice.

Does it change the fact what he replies? Hagoromo clearly made/created that seal duo to Rinnegan and its only explanation , he created every jutsu there is , just like that seal
 

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What's all this about Hagoromo using genjutsu on Kaguya? :wut:
 

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You know what im gonna say...shit made me laugh and you rekt lol. @bold - probably this and its a Rinnegan technique that made the seal , later Hagoromo passed that technique to Naruto and Sasuke , so its still Hagoromo's seal that he created and if you're wondering how come Hamura had the seal just as me, probably the same way Naruto and Sasuke got it

So you’re saying that Hagoromo possibly gave Hamura the seal?
 

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As we know Hagaromo studied a way to seal his mother/10 tails. But what in the world(literally) could he find on earth to give him info on how to seal a celestial being from another dimension?

That literally makes no sense. How would humans have knowledge on fuinjutsu if they didn’t even have chakra yet?

Where would this info for Hagaromo come from?

Even if he “created” it how would he? What would’ve gave him the knowledge to know how to deal something he never dealt with before?

It makes no sense.

Kaguya keeps scrolls
 

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Nothing more then fanfiction. It was Hagoromo and Hamura that placed the seals on her, trapping inside the moon.

Right, don't know where all this fanfic about Hagoromo using genjutsu on Kaguya and using Chibaku Tensei on his own is coming from
 

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Yeah you can believe all you want but what is the point of believing on something else infront of clear fact shown by manga. It doesnt make sense. So here you just acting like flat earth believer.

Straight to the point. In the chapter of 690 manga clearly draw a parallel here.

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It clearly shows to you that in the past both Hamura and Hagoromo did exactly the same action as Naruto and Sasuke in the present time.

Both(Hagoromo and Hamura) placed a seal on Kaguya's shoulder in the way of Naruto-Sasuke,

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You must be registered for see images

As for Hagoromo using Rinnegan Genjutsu on Kaguya, at that time Rinnegan Genjutsu was not exist. Hagoromo's eyes just a normal KKM Rinnegan without any tomoes on it. His eyes is not similar to Sasuke's single 6 tomoes Rinnegan eye. The tomoes indicate that this kind of Rinnegan has some kind of Genjutsu power and Hagoromo's eyes lack something like it.

So you made a mistake into believing that Hagoromo is using Genjutsu on Kaguya. Logically speaking there is no way Genjutsu can work on Kaguya easily because if it can effect her Sasuke would already try to caught her inside one.

Actually what happen here....
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...is that the seals that Sasuke and Naruto placed on Kaguya's body is working on sealing Kaguya's Rinn-Sharingan. So Kaguya can no longer using her third eye power. If Kaguya is being caught inside Genjutsu her primary eyes ( Byakugan) should be affected and shown by manga but here as you can see only her third eye is being effected and shown. So that's not Genjutsu per se.

You must be registered for see images
How Rinnegan Genjutsu works? The eye shape of the victims turning into the Genjutsu caster eye shape. But it never happened on Kaguya.

And the rest of sealing process..
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You can read it here,



Clearly all the "process" is automated. The order/sequence of sealing process already being programmed inside those seals like how Itachi programmed the Kotoamatsukami. And most importantly that's all are fact. So its meaningless to believe on the opposite infront of clear established fact.

Lastly on your last thread its not you who let it slide but its me who let it slide because I want to observe you first. And now you gave me a "green light"

Great post bro. But why do you presume Hamura created the seals? According to your first post?

OT: Like has been said, its anime/manga. No need to think too much about it lol
 
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